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  1. Frank P, November 7th, 2016 – 01:56

    Re: Bookies – No worries, Frank, there’s always a bigger chump. [i.e. ME!] I lost a lot of money by NOT transporting my meagre, somewhat pathetic by CM standards, lifetime savings to Australia the day before the EU referendum.

    If you’re looking for a sure-fire bet, then buy shares in American (&elsewhere) firearms/ammo manufacturers. Looking at the stats it appears to be a recession proof business, so they are a bullet/bomb proof investment! Consumers firearms sales DOUBLED on Obama’s watch and will go into orbit if the zombie bitch is elected tomorrow. Also, look at the military sector, no slouch either.

    I do hope our noble friend, Baron, hasn’t been trifling with our emotions, giving us false hope, with his certainty that the “great unwashed” will propel Mr Trump to victory. I’m sure he knows what to expect if he’s wrong, but what if he’s right?
    Yes, we will all, i’m certain, give him a round of applause, but will it then mean that I’ll be forced to accept his concept of “the healthy core of Englishness?” Mm, I’m still trying to spit the pips out of that one….

    TRUMP 2016, “Give Peace a Chance!” [ Lennon would have hated that! 🙂 🙂 ]

  2. Ha, ha! I often wonder about people like Lennon. I do think they might have done a Morrissey and spotted that actually Brexit and Trump are on the right side of history. I call it the Hitchens rule: those who let the genie out of the bottle often spend the rest of their life trying to put it back in (Hitchens P was a one-time Trot).

    I do think that America is now in a win, win, oddly enough. Because either Trump is elected (I’m sure it will be rigged against him) or, as Farage has predicted, a third party will emerge.

    That, to me, is the single most depressing thing about the US and the UK. Everywhere else people have ditched the legacy parties in their droves. Why would anyone want to vote LabCon or RepDem?

    To use the George Galloway cliche. In both cases, they aretwo cheeks on the same axse.

    I knew Brexit would be blocked and T May doesn’t care how. All she needs is a straw man debate where she pretends to be pro-Bexit while the other side of the axxe is anti-Brexit. Neither of them fools me. It’s a charade. The bottom linen the way her team devise everything is ‘But it wasn’t her fault.’

    Of course of, Theresa. It’s not as if you voted Remain.

    So have I given up? Not a bit. I have always felt that a fuse would crack on the Continent (which is why they want an EU army – to crush any rebellion). I always thought even if Leave won in the UK it would take some more blows to break the EU completely. Which is why I have been so keenly following Renzi’s referendum.

    It was supposed to happen in October. It was then pencilled in for yesterday. It is now pencilled in for December. Oh dear. Someone’s private polling isn’t looking too good. This looks very much like Cameron’s attempt to get more voters signed up. The EU needs more blows before it rumbles.

    If Renzi loses, he must surely resign, as did Cameron. That would trgger an election and Five Star (Italy’s anti-EU brigade) may seize power.

    Hillary is desperate for war with Russia asap, because she wants to scare the sheeple in the EU into closing ranks.

    Tell us Hillary. How did all your previous wars turn out? Libya? Benghazi?

    And if Vlad gets bruised and falls from power? If you think he’s tough, Hillary, the people behind him are toughness squared. The military in the background really, really won’t give any quarter. If it means using the original ‘scorched earth’ policy and destroying themselves into the bargain, they will do it.

    I can spot only one megalomaniac. And it isn’t Donald or Vlad.

  3. I feel I’m living in the 1930s and 1939 is getting closer .

  4. “Quite the most nauseating thing about the Remainers’ anti-Brexit campaign so far – worse than the lies, worse than the bullying, worse even than their outrageous refusal to accept the referendum result – is the sanctimonious way they’re now draping themselves in the flag of patriotism, sovereignty, and due process.”

    James Delingpole

  5. John birch.

    In respect of all Progressives and the MSM ;

    ” Vote Trump to make America grate again “.

  6. “Peace through strength!”

    TRUMP 2016, “Give Peace a Chance!”

    [also… give Pence a chance! Solid bloke.]

  7. I just have a feeling that Frank P will want to buy two bottles of Rioja for Wednesday! Trump is pulling the crowds out day in day out, oceans of people are flocking to hear his non-hectoring folksy guy next door speeches and I believe that like Ronnie and Maggie before him, he will pull the disenfranchised, and those who haven’t voted in years or before, into his (non-republican) camp. And I commend his whole operation – God knows, huge sums of money will have been offered to many to dish the dirt, but team discipline is as tight as a drum and he himself hasn’t wavered in his manner or tempo of address unlike the Dems (time for a change of Party name surely?) with Shillary and Baracking the very embodiment of those two words. He looks like the safe pair of hands and his voters don’t give a dime for what the towers on CNN say, nor the pollsters. So chins up! Get the popcorn in and sit back to watch millions of smug complacent arrogant cnuts spend the next year crying into their Cornflakes!

  8. This year, more than any other is the one in which language an reality have been exposed as a lie. Child refugees with facial hair and dating profiles saying they are 22. The BBC pixellated their faces to protect their rights. After the first set of photos, the Home Office (formerly run n abysmal fashion for six years by Theresa May!) puts up screens around the next batch so they can’t be photographed.

    There is not one single syllable this government or its media poodles could ever say that cold ever be taken at face value.

  9. Re: previous post, for towers read tossers!! Ruddy predictive iPad.

  10. Oh, and the absurd Mark Carney, who wants to ramp up the war on cash by eradicating the penny.

    How’s that going when Tesco bank gets raided.

    In the words of Arthur Daley, it’s cash or we’re not selling. Terry, get the motor.

    Quite right too.

  11. Irishboy @ 17:32

    How well put, Irishboy.

    Frank will mind not to toast the Donald as the new resident of the White House, it’s his deeply seated doubt that worries. As there’s a ‘healthy core of Englishness’ still surviving here in spite of decades of pummelling, so there must the equivalent of it in the Republic. Tomorrow will be the day they will speak out.

  12. Janet Reno has died . She was US Attorney General During the Clinton dual-presidency;and involved with all the items from the Dark Side : most notoriously the massacre at Waco.

  13. Jeano @ 17:34

    Good point, Jeano, but one has to remember that no European political gnome would ever do anything to displease the Hon Muslim in the White House.

    Fortunately, his days are coming to an end, the new incumbent will change few things, and the slicing of immigration from the lands of Allah worshippers will be one of them.

  14. Radford NG @ 17:14

    Good one, Radford, the barbarian will smuggle it into the Spectator blog (under your name, of course).

  15. Baron :
    Thank you;but already there under Rod Liddles item.

  16. Not my words. The words of Zero Hedge:

    ‘Philanthropist’ George Soros Set To Make A Killing From Europe’s ‘Forced Migration’

    George Soros’ think tank is fully on board with “forced migration”. He has either initiated it or facilitated it and, according to Viktor Orban, Prime Minister of Hungary (which is presently holding a referendum on whether to accept migrant quotas as demanded by the EU), as quoted by Bloomberg: “His name is perhaps the strongest example of those who support anything that weakens nation states, they support everything that changes the traditional European lifestyle […] These activists who support immigrants inadvertently become part of this international human-smuggling network.”

    Soros-backed activists are at the center of that network.

    Soros is elected to no nation’s government, nor has he ever been.

    That does not prevent him, however, from meddling in their internal affairs and supporting insurrections such as so-called Color Revolutions, including in Georgia and Ukraine, and whipping up chaos via Back Lives Matter in the US.

    He also famously attacked the British pound, making himself a billion dollars.

    In his latest article, he wishes the reader to assume inclusion by his use of “our”. But we are not included; we are simply being told what is to happen.

    He then writes of “the proven benefit that greater integration could bring”. This is almost a rhetorical conundrum; he and his lawyers expect – not without reason – that most people will provide their own color to what the words on the page say. He claims proof but provides none – and that is a major omission given that we are expected to entrust our entire cultural and economic future to his assertions.

    Many countries, including Japan, China, UAE, Israel and Singapore, are extremely careful to whom they grant citizenship. If the benefits Soros claims were proven, surely they would be on board, too.

    Soros writes: “Governments must play the leading role in addressing this crisis by creating and sustaining adequate physical and social infrastructure for migrants and refugees. But harnessing the power of the private sector is also critical.

    Recognizing this, the Obama administration recently launched a “Call to Action” asking U.S. companies to play a bigger role in meeting the challenges posed by forced migration. Today, private-sector leaders are assembling at the United Nations to make concrete commitments to help solve the problem.”

    Soros, naturally, does not blush at telling us what our governments “must” do.

    The term “forced migration” is clever mind hook.

    You may be sure that it was worked on for hours and many alternatives discarded. Its power lies in the fact that it implies both helplessness in the face of an unstoppable external force and inevitability of result – while at the same time disregarding causes.

    If anyone still cares, the causes include: attacks by the US and Nato on countries which have done them no harm; Angela Merkel’s open invitation to the third world to move to Europe; material and informational support from Soros-funded organizations.

    Soros continues: “In response, I have decided to earmark $500 million for investments that specifically address the needs of migrants, refugees and host communities. I will invest in startups, established companies, social-impact initiatives and businesses founded by migrants and refugees themselves. Although my main concern is to help migrants and refugees arriving in Europe, I will be looking for good investment ideas that will benefit migrants all over the world.”

    I will translate: “Now that the inflow of immigrants has been set up, I am going to invest $500 million to make the process unstoppable, endless and self-funding, and make a lot of money for myself at the same time. And since this is dressed in the language of compassion, there is nothing you can say against it.”

    Back to Soros’ letter: “This commitment of investment equity will complement the philanthropic contributions my foundations have made to address forced migration, a problem we have been working on globally for decades and to which we have dedicated significant financial resources.”

    Just remove the words ‘philanthropic’ (which does not mean at the elite level what you think it means) and realize that ‘address’ means ‘facilitate’ to Soros, and you will understand this sentence correctly; this is a carefully crafted statement of policy.

    He continues: “We will seek investments in a variety of sectors, among them emerging digital technology, which seems especially promising as a way to provide solutions to the particular problems that dislocated people often face. Advances in this sector can help people gain access more efficiently to government, legal, financial and health services. Private businesses are already investing billions of dollars to develop such services for non-migrant communities.

    “This is why money now moves instantaneously from one mobile wallet to another, drivers find customers by using only a cellphone, and how a doctor in North America can see a patient in Africa in real time. Customizing and extending these innovations to serve migrants will help improve the quality of life for millions around the world.

    “All of the investments we make will be owned by my nonprofit organization. They are intended to be successful—because I want to show how private capital can play a constructive role helping migrants—and any profits will go to fund programs at the Open Society Foundations, including programs that benefit migrants and refugees.”

    Thus, anyone who wishes to will be able to plug into the system you and your families have been paying into all your lives and access its main arteries with nothing more than a mobile phone. Soros, meanwhile, makes a load more money which he can then plough into the very organizations which will make sure the inflow of migrants never stops.

    Soros goes on to claim: “As longtime champions of civil society, we will be focused on ensuring that our investments lead to products and services that truly benefit migrants and host communities.”

    Leaving what Soros may mean by ‘civil society’, I turn to his use of ‘benefit’; benefit according to whom? According to George Soros – a man who destabilizes sovereign states as part of his modus operandi.

    Soros concludes: “We will also work closely with organizations such as the Office of the United Nations High Commissioner for Refugees and the International Rescue Committee to establish principles to guide our investments. Our goal is to harness, for public good, the innovations that only the private sector can provide.

    “I hope my commitment will inspire other investors to pursue the same mission.”

    What this means in English is: “The fix is in, and now all you smaller fish further down the food chain can make a nice buck off the gravy train of selling your countries out because if this weren’t a sure thing, I wouldn’t be in it.”

    This is cultural and ethnic-cleansing in a business suit; it is the de facto usurpation of the nation state as a social construct for the peoples of Europe as part of a multi-purpose war – one designed to destroy oil-rich states and any state with no central bank, while simultaneously collapsing sovereign states.

    However, my point here is not the mass immigration – although with the inevitable, eventual annihilation of the middle class in Soros’ “host countries” there will be nowhere for genuine refugees to go; it is that we have taxation without even the fig leaf of representation so long as men like Soros can openly create and dictate policy.

  17. They have recently republished ‘Tell the Truth and Shame the Devil: Recognize the True Enemy and Join to Fight Him’.

    Its author is Gerard Menuhin, son of last century’s greatest violin player, Yehudi Menuhin. Mr Menuhin senior also taught young Nigel Kennedy for a while.

    The way that I would best describe the book is if you imagine Alex Jones was a historian and not an alternative TV news host, that’s what it reads like.

    I’m not sure I believed it all, but Gerard Menuhin is as erudite and thorough as his father, albeit in a different discipline. The new version has an index.

  18. Newsweek To Ship Thousands Of Clinton Victory ‘Special Edition’

    Thousands of copies of a Newsweek magazine claiming a Hillary Clinton victory have been printed in readiness to ship to newsstands and stores.

    Stacks of boxes with the Special Edition ‘Madam President’ cover depicting Hillary Clinton winning the U.S. presidential race next week were secretly photographed by a Newsweek employee who says that there were no Trump versions made.

    The find proves that the media, in collusion with the Clinton campaign, have planned for a Hillary victory all along.

    According to the Newsweek insider, printing large numbers of magazines declaring the winner ahead of the results is unheard of due to the high cost and risk associated.

    Normally draft versions of both candidates winning would be made in a PDF (offline) version, with printing and distribution only happening after the results have been called.

    According to author Jim Stone:

    The fact it is already in print,COMPLETE WITH BARCODE when it should only be in PDF, or other computer file form SAYS IT ALL.

    Your argument is “well They have both candidates in print as winning so they are ready to go.”

    Here is the problem with that theory. In 2012 the only candidate leaked magazine and tv polls showed winning was Obama. No one else! That kills that theory.

    There are those who are saying this release of photos by a Newsweek employee is a Psyop to make people give up and not vote. I say take it as confirmation that you had better get out and vote Trump.

  19. The possible dangers of MMR, the cause taken up by Peter Hitchens and Melanie Phillips is back I see (and not in a good way):

  20. If Donald Trump does win, I hope he is witty enough to give his first press conference at the White House holding a cigar and saying: ‘It was one Bill left behind. Don’t worry I’m not going to smoke it. I got a whole tin of them I’m handing out the press corps. After all, you’re all Bill Hillary’s pussies. So let’s treat you like Bill would.’

  21. Pamela Geller has redesigned/relaunched her web site.

  22. Radford NG @ 17:58

    It was to double the impact, Radford, the more it hits the readers’ eye the better.

  23. Jeano @ 20:29

    Top grade plus, Jeano, you should post it on any blog that goes.

  24. Jeano – 19:17

    There appears to have been some developments that the MSM have missed, from some time ago, and while a reader cannot make a proper judgement on the medical issues, it doesn’t put the medical establishment in a very good light:

    The Vaccine Autism Cover-up: How One Doctor’s Career was Destroyed for Telling the Truth

    Bombshell: Top CDC Whistle Blower: We Were Ordered to Cover Up Vaccine-Autism Link

    Boom: another vaccine whistleblower steps out of the shadows

    Are all these reports just stories, to be ignored? I know in Britain, there was a great deal of pressure to force the MMR vaccine on the general public to save money and the single jabs were ‘outlawed’, with 10 Downing Street being involved, so this isn’t just a medical research story at all. And those connected with the media, like journalists ,are not being viewed in a very good light at the moment, especially over their political balance and having hidden agenda.

    The problem with poor Science is that it is difficult to know on which side of the argument it lies.

  25. If you were to click on the link at 17.43 you’ll find the page’s gone, it got removed. It must have been for Baron cannot find in on the site.


  26. Jeano – 19:17

    Not that different to the Global Warming Delusion.

  27. Jeano – 19:17
    There appears to have been some developments that the MSM have missed, from some time ago, and while a reader cannot make a proper judgement on the medical issues, it doesn’t put the medical establishment in a very good light:
    The Vaccine Autism Cover-up: How One Doctor’s Career was Destroyed for Telling the Truth
    Bombshell: Top CDC Whistle Blower: We Were Ordered to Cover Up Vaccine-Autism Link


  28. /cont

    Boom: another vaccine whistleblower steps out of the shadows
    Are all these reports just stories, to be ignored? I know in Britain, there was a great deal of pressure to force the MMR vaccine on the general public to save money and the single jabs were ‘outlawed’, with 10 Downing Street being involved, so this isn’t just a medical research story at all. And those connected with the media, like journalists ,are not being viewed in a very good light at the moment, especially over their political balance and having hidden agenda.
    The problem with poor Science is that it is difficult to know on which side of the argument it lies.

  29. Why Political Correctness Must End | Milo Yiannopoulos and Stefan Molyneux

  30. Boris Johnson has been disgraceful as foreign secretary. He walked in the door and turned native. He wants people to protest outside the Russian embassy. Do it yourself, you waste of space, Boris.

    This is why Michael Gove was right. Boris is always about Boris. If it helps Boris’s career, he’s up for it. Boris only supported Leave to endear himself to Tory grassroots voters. He didn’t really give a monkey’s what the result was.

  31. Testing

  32. My posts linking to the site of the person t\at Hillary Clinton called Mr. Darkheart are being blocked – perhaps by aliens from Outer Space. Go there for live election coverage now up and running.


    Stephan Molyneux about to be brought on as a guest.

  34. US election night map and guide from Daily Mail.

  35. Today I am frightened that my compatriots are going to deliver unto the world a sleazy lyin criminal.
    The FBI dude concluded:
    “Although we did not find clear evidence that Secretary Clinton or her colleagues intended to violate laws governing the handling of the classified information, there is evidence that they were extremely careless in their handling of very sensitive, highly classified information.”
    For Gods sake, you cannot foist this woman on us.
    America expects every citizen to do their historic duty.

  36. John Jefferson Burns – 08:03

    Sean Hannity spells it out… “If Hillary wins, you own it.”

    The trouble is, we might own it too!

  37. Never fear, John Jefferson Burns!

    Support for the American massed lemmings voting Hittlery is gathering momentum worldwide…

    NB. Never lie on your CV, or to yourself, about being able to swim.

    In other news, the UK, MOD is to cut costs by not issuing parachutes to paratroopers.
    “They are not always necessary” said a MOD spokesman.

  38. EC, John (and of course Frank & others)

    It will be a landslide, boys, for the Donald, so, relax, put your feet up, undo whatever it is you have a habit to loosen when you feel like unwinding, easing off, even knocking off for a minute or two.

    In just 24 hours, the world will undergo its political precession, will begin to move in a different direction, compass of many a world tribe will be re-set.

    A new era is upon us. Thanks be to Him for time was running out.

  39. Trump ahead in New Hampshire at polling stations which have already closed.

  40. Baron

    I’m still trying to work out whether your faith in America’s right choice is touching or desperate. Whichever, one hopes your forecaast is justified..

  41. On a lighter note…

    My favourite blog(ger) comment over the last 16 months has been, “I wish that my wife would look at me the same way that Sean Hannity looks at Donald Trump.”

    Dunno who it was but it made me smile.

  42. Frank P @ 10:24

    Between you, young sir, Baron, and the twisted copper wires that will carry this message, the barbarian cannot stand the Donald, but he cannot stomach the Clinton woman even more, considerably more. His guidance on the unpalatable choices before him is the prism through which he observes life.

    At no stage of human development has there been anything prefect, ideal, non-improvable. At the stage we are, in there ain’t a prefect pizza, a car, a politicians or whatever else either, but some pizzas, cars and politicians are closer to the ideal, perfect, non-improvable (and vice versa, some of the humans and things are further away from the flawlessness of excellence).

    Hence the Donald, but never the Clinton female, of whom Bill has quipped: ‘I hope Hilary gets betters interns than I did. All of mine sucked’, he, he, he.

  43. Is it fugging Alzheimer or what? A couple of sentences, errors galore. Sorry.

  44. Why?
    Farron lets TRUTH slip: There IS a secret plan to KEEP Britain in the EU

    ‘EU WILL NOT SURVIVE’ – Juncker’s right-hand man admits DEFEAT after Brexit

    THE European Union project is on the brink of FAILURE following Britain’s momentous Brexit vote, a Brussels bureaucrat has admitted.

    Obvious, to anyone without an EU career ahead of them, or an EU pension.

  45. Let’s forget the USA for a few hours as the sheeple there demonstrate their abject stupidity by diving over the the cliff like programmed lemmings (well more than half of them anyway) and analyse with Alex how that other monstrosity, the USE was initiated, shaped and is about to do the same:

    There will be blood – on both sides of The Pond. Which of course will be nothing new. The price of power is mass murder in order to retain it.

  46. Great US election result !! OOPS!!!

  47. Any body on `twitter`: look up *America Elects* ; the temporary name of *Britain Elects*.

    Votes in crucial states *very* close.

  48. Correction see *America Elects @ Britain Elects*.

  49. Frank P, you may as well open the Rioja now and let it breathe!

  50. Some good buying opportunities on the stock market tomorrow morning !

  51. Irishboy (05:10).

    I shall do so joyfully. Not just yet – I still want to see her concede. But it’s looking good and if it continues to to fall according to Baron’s prognostication: never in my long life will I have been so happy to be wrong. 🙂

    The faces of the pro-Clinton MSM and the weeping dykes at the Clinton HQ are a pleasure to behold. Exquisite!

    Let’s hope it stays that way to the end.

    Brillo’s sour grapes are also twisting his ugly mug into an even uglier expression.. His sarcasm quite juvenile. Pathetic. And the way the BBC pundits have used “white” as a pejorative throughout the night is disgusting..

    Breaking news! Looks like Pa. is his; only rural areas to come in – that should be the coup de gras. I’m beginning to believe.

  52. Morning again in America

    Interdum vulgus rectum widet

    …oh, and Gowdy for AG

  53. videt

  54. OK Limeys,

    You betta send over Nigel Farage to Washington as your Ambassador to smooth out misunderstandings.

    Your Foreign Secretary not going to play well at Trump Towers.

  55. Frank, indeed. They wouldn’t dare talk about the poor uneducated blacks. They all said that Hillary was the only candidate with political and diplomatic experience (the opinion of Sir Christopher effing Mayer, Blair’s ambassador to the USA, among the countless cnuts) but her expertise didn’t guide her to not pouring opprobrium upon more than 50% of the American who had a vote to cast.

    The characteristics of the Left fit exactly the criteria used to diagnose Narcissistic Personality Disorder, a schizophrenic condition where a false nirvana is used to avoid the necessity of dealing with reality and the actual, and listening to the BBC et al choking on their Cornflakes is a real joy. And the MSM in the States, reeling from disastrous ratings, must be wondering how they can survive when they have no chance of access to the new President.

    This is the best wet Wednesday of my life!

  56. The bastards are still wriggling. Talking about “absentee votes ‘in Pa.
    Somebody get a wooden stake. It’s the only way she’ll give it up.

  57. They can wriggle. The swamp is about to be cleared.

  58. Time to book two flight tickets to Red Rock in the name of the has beens.

  59. … and at least a few dozen to all points abroad for sundry slebs, luvvies, warbling clowns etc. – well, they did promise, didn’t they?

  60. FrankP 05:46

    “Brillo’s sour grapes are also twisting his ugly mug into an even uglier expression.. His sarcasm quite juvenile. Pathetic. And the way the BBC pundits have used “white” as a pejorative throughout the night is disgusting..”

    Saw Jeremy Vine earlier asserting that it was “TV “Apprentice” watching whites” in the mid-west that swung it for Donald. “They’re voted as if they were minority group” said he.

    …also I’ve just watched JV’s results timeline clip where he referenced “old white males” again!

    There goes the BBC again peddling their “old white male” schtick. It was the same after the BREXIT result, if you remember. They really do hate the older generation who are more resistant to their constant drip feed of agitprop.

  61. A great result last night.

    Note to our MPs, and Their (my arse!) Lordships!

    Remember last night and remember last night, and remember June 23rd.

    “… and THAT’s a memo!” [© Bill O’Reilly]

  62. The world now knows that to trump,
    Means adherence to a daily hump.
    With whom they’re not fussy,
    But please not a hussy.
    And certainly not Forest Gump.


  63. Presidential message to the world !

  64. Baron:

    Someone has just congratulated you in the Speccy comments for correctly calling the US election. Let me second that!

  65. Damaris Tighe – 09:04

    The Spectatesman should now give Baron his very own blogspot!

  66. Morning fellow deplorables! 🙂

  67. “Every time I speak of the haters and losers I do so with great love and affection. They cannot help the fact that they were born fucked up!”

    A beautiful tweet from Trump put on Speccie

  68. OminousOminous
    Jun 29, 2014

    Ode to The Clintons?


    Why don’t you
    just hit
    fucking hammer
    against your brain
    and stop
    it all

  69. BBC interviewer on local radio: so you voted for Hillary, because you are a woman?
    Woman, with an American accent: Yes.

    Of course she did.

    🙂 🙂 🙂

  70. Do you remember when the presidential race was going to be between J Bush and H Clinton?

    So Trump entered the fray, and I thought he was just the person to test the Republican candidates. But then, one by one, they fell by the wayside, with the Liberal-Left-Media doing everything they could to destroy anything that could get in the way of HRC, until there was only one left standing, bloodied but still standing!

    The Democrat Elites then went and anointed their choice, with Bernie not being supported at all by the Elites in the party, the emails and the Clinton Foundation not helping, and the White House being as effective as it was in the Brexit campaign!

    I am surprised Trump didn’t win by a larger margin, but then I remember just how brainwashed we have all been for the last 25 years plus.

    Apparently, even Andrew Neil was affected. It must be the BBC air.

  71. What a victory, ha?

    And of all the days in the running year, what year, the decade, that was the one day the barbarian must be out of action. But then, offering a helping hand to someone in need, and only that, must be ogod enough reason to miss the triumph of the Donald.

    More to the point, the barbarian has never doubted Donald’s victory, watching it would have left him, the poorly educated Slav, emotionally untouched.

    Do keep in mind, he doesn’t sit in the Oval Office yet, he still has to get through a couple of months, and the enemy never sleeps.

  72. “Canada’s immigration website crashes during US vote”

    But wait a minute, Clintonostra fans…. Here’s Gavin McInnes with some cautionary advice…

    “How To Move To Canada if Trump Becomes President”


  73. Fergus Pickering @ 09:51

    You’ve never told us you were familiar with some of the words in this little little gem of yours, Fergus.

    (Btw, however much the barbarian dislikes the Clinton woman, he feels for her, not much, just a droplet of sympathy one would feel for a brave, but maggots infested hyena losing it to a healthy Siberian wolf).

  74. This website has been playing up again this morning. Coincidence?

  75. RobertRetyred @ 11:29

    The margin tells you, Robert, how close it was to the point of no return, and how big a task the man has to tackle.

    The time for him to roll up his sleeves may not be be here yet, but the barbarian reckons the task is of Herculean bigness.

  76. Damaris Tighe @ 09:04

    If you were to call saying the sun will set tonight a prediction, then, of course, the barbarian got it right, Damaris.

    Thank you nevertheless, young sir.

  77. Colonel Mustard @ 09:10

    Good morning to you, too, Colonel of the deplorables. Even if the sun’s not to be seen anywhere, it’s pi$$ing mildly, it feels joyfully ecstatic.

    (Strictly speaking, is well past midday, but the barbarian woke up only around an hour ago, for him it’s still early morning, hence fugg the convention).

  78. Irishboy @ 06:47

    Good spiel, Irishboy, but do you truly remember your emotions on all the Wednesdays in your life?

  79. None of the commentators get things right at the moment because of the fear that the left have put into to people who want to tell the truth.
    As in the election, Brexit, and now America people just keep quiet and then vote.
    I see it everywhere, people are afraid to have opinions which may go against the current orthodoxy .
    you have to be old now so that you just don’t care before you can tell the truth about many issues that people should be able to speak about freely.
    The long march has succeeded in its aim, it’s still there as you can see in Brexit.
    And Donald is about to find out in America.

  80. At least one strand of The Long March hits a brick wall! Let’s hope it’s a portent of things to come; bring in the mole catchers.

    Congratulations Baron! For having faith in Joe Blow. I just ate humble pie for breakfast and it tasted better than Full English with toast and marmalade added.

    Michael Moore on the other hand was right. It was the “biggest ‘Fuck You’ in the history of the world”. Even better, he didn’t want it to happen – and the taste in his mouth must be even more foul than its fetid normality.

    Juxtapositions by the bucketful. Perhaps Brexit can now be expedited also.

    Obama, Biden and Kerry must be stunned. Their ‘legacy’ lies in shattered fragments. Obama has finally been exposed as the shill he is. And his puppeteers have had their strings cut.

    Best of all, the shreiking, poisonous bent bitch/witch has been silenced.
    Sadly, it may mean that she and her spouse the louse won’t get nicked and banged up for their chronic conspiratorial crimes, as that would be regarded as vindictive and ungallant in an American culture which is inherently generous, albeit at times strangely naive.

    But beware, the money-men will first make a killing as they jiggle the market, then they will attempt to punish Joe Blow for his effrontery. Bite the bullet and let The Donald have a shot at making both America and Great Britain geat again.

  81. Baron 12.14

    ‘Young’ is absolutely fine good Baron, but not ‘Sir’. I am, and always have been, a Madam.

  82. Well done, Baron, for prophesying exactly what happened. I always hoped you were right, I desperately wanted Trump to win, but couldn’t believe it would actually happen.

    On TV this morning, someone was speaking to a Trump voter, a very respectable looking woman, and she said “I’m not a deplorable”. Quite. That’ll teach the Clinton witch not to insult voters if you want their support.

    Lefties all over the world must be weeping buckets. Oh the pleasure of it.

    Again, congratulations to Baron on your foresight. Give that man a medal!

  83. Baron 1204
    This person has been a serial criminal and liar since Whitewater.
    They tolerated her Establishment cover ups for far too long.

  84. Election2016
    It’s red, white,
    and get wasted
    for election day,
    I wonder who will win
    Will Trump
    Triumphly trump
    crooked Hillary,
    Or will crooked Hillary
    Make a grump
    Outta Trump?

    Now it’s over
    Donald drove her
    He made America red
    But could not get her to bed


  85. Baron – 12:08

    “I am surprised Trump didn’t win by a larger margin …” because I was looking at the issues, which were so plain to see, and the possible solutions, and not the destructive ideologies involved, and you are right, it was a close call. And, like Brexit, I don’t know if there would have been another chance – and in neither case is the fight over.

    When I passed my school entrance examination, the Head’s message was that, “You may think, by passing the exam, that you have succeeded, but you have only just begun.” I do think Trump is in a similar position to all those new entries, but I was ten and he is seventy! He will, though, have many more skills to hand, like management, delegation and dominance, but he will need a lot of stamina as well, more than I think I have now. 🙂 The biggest thing going for him is that he has few favours to pay back now he is in office and he should be able to delegate well.

    There are more dominoes to fall: France, Germany, Italy, plus the other EU countries, but it will only need a few more, or even just one if it is the right one, to lessen the resistance, though constructing the future will be a big task in itself.

  86. EC – 12:02


    Here is another:
    Dear U.S. Trump-haters: Don’t move to Canada!

  87. This tram ? Crash in London that seems to be low on the news , 6 to 8 dead. And the drivers name ????

  88. Quite a touching article, and on the BBC website:
    US election 2016: America’s front-porch revolt

  89. Quite a touching article, and on the BBC website:
    US election 2016: America’s front-porch revolt

    (getting errors when trying to add a comment, on occasion)

  90. EC November 9th, 2016 – 12:07

    Perhaps Little Miss Shapeshifter has been “sharing code” again? He made an appearance at the Speccie this morning to whine about his “veil (sic) of tears”.

  91. Looking forward to President Trump’s first State Visit (to the Scottish parliament).

  92. From ConHome 🙂 )
    Aberdeenshire business owner wins presidential election

  93. I join the list of Wallsters who are even more relieved at Trump’s triumph than we were over Brexit. I also congratulate Baron for his prescience.

    It will be very interesting to see what effect Trump will have on International relations.

    My own forecast is that he will achieve a rapprochement with both Russia and China.

    That will be based firstly on the fact that Islam is an existential threat to all three of their great civilisations, and that cooperation among the three of them to at least keep that threat at bay is highly desirable.

    Secondly I think that Trump will recognise that all three have legitimate interests in the lands and seas adjacent to their own borders. Consequently it is possible that Trump, Putin and the Chinese leadership will reach mutual understandings about it. To achieve this, sensible and even hard bargaining may be needed, but it will lead to success. I certainly see Trump ceasing the stupid policies of constantly poking the Russian Bear with a stick and of crudely interfering in matters that the Chinese regard as their and nobody else’s business.

    As for Trump’s domestic policies in the U.S. it seems to me that there will be a sort of parallel with Gorbachev’s policy of perestroika.

    I wonder what Baron thinks?



  95. Be sober, be vigilant; because your adversary the devil, as a roaring lion, walketh about, seeking whom he may devour

  96. I write at this important time for balance.

  97. We see so many quotes from Breitbart – we should take this to,our hearts:

    “Goliath is coming himself, with his horses and men… what our nation has witnessed in the last period is something and what is to come is something different,” he added. “God willing it will be for us not against us.”

  98. Amongst the triumphalist hooting we must remember our Christian Heritage and now work tirelessly to ameliorate the divisive strains in our own society and the world at large.
    Today we must spare a thought for the fear engendered in the people of Ramallah and pray that events in the US will not trigger further conflict.
    We must get down on our knees and pray that the French, who so much hate Rust Belt Anglo Saxonism, will vote to keep out that racist woman in next years election.

    My partner yes talks about a veil of tears but that veil is a symbol that we tolerate those who pray in a different way but to the same God.

  99. 5th
    Two short things because it’s near impossible for Baron to log in:

    No more ‘well done’ postings, please, or the barbarian will get even more big headed than he already is (and this time for little).

    Apologies, Damaris, you have very likely told us what you fixed gender was, the barbarian has forgotten. He will not make the same mistake again (hopefully).

    (PS: Baron has changed the ‘connect box’, the modem, it seems to be haunted, it’s either that or something wrong on the receiving side).

  100. I see the transgendered teleturd is crapping up the Wall again with it’s hate mongering against Christianity and those who would defend it from secularist socialism and its Islamist ally.

  101. When Trump meets Obama
    He’ll think it’s Osama
    Although he’s no shooter
    He’ll ram rods up his hooter

  102. Sky News abandoned any vestige of objectivity last night on their Press Review slot, when Anna Botting joined in a hatefest against Donald Trump with her two guests Bonnie Greer and a fellow whose name I forget – whose condescending rant of arrogance was delicious to behold. Oh Boy! The left sure don’t like it up ’em. And they already remarshalling the Long March which fell in a heap yesterday and is now busily trying to regroup. For those of you that missed it, I’ll try to dig out the link.

  103. First off, a thunderous well done to Baron!

    Second, those ‘protests’ – they’re just like some visitors here. False flag propagandist firestarters. Funded, as usual, by George Soros.

    It’s all as fake as Hillary’s face.

  104. Can you hear the laughter in the Ecuadorian embassy? Can he have his internet access back now?

    If Obama pardons Clinton, I hope Trump pardons Assange.

  105. Nah – I can’t find it. EC is adept at digging out yesterday’s trash. Can you solve this one for me, me old mucker? I’d like to research the twat who appeared with Bonnie Greer; I had never seen him before and wonder why his opinions were worthy of a half-hor slot on national TV.

  106. Frank, I decided to listen to Radio 4’s US Election Breakdown with ‘comedian’ Rich Hall to see if it would have – at least for the final episode – some balance.

    No. 30 minutes of unremmitting anti-Trump propaganda. Thank God they can’t reverse it.

  107. Whichever. 10-43
    My partner yes talks about a veil of tears but that veil is a symbol that we tolerate those who pray in a different way but to the same God.

    Same god. Fuck off.

  108. Jeano – 12:22
    “If Obama pardons Clinton …”

    How can he, when she hasn’t even been charged with anything? Is that why there is a delay, wait until Trump is in the WH? I read this in a post at the time she was let off the second time: was it on this site?

  109. Quite right Robert. I think they will have some difficulty, but everybody knows she’s in trouble with the law!

  110. You can always tell a lot by the posture of a politician. Little details that send signals. Barack Obama removed a bust of Churchill in the Oval Office because of Churchill’s views on Islam.

    Today, we find out Donald Trump has still not telephoned Remainer May. Remind us, ReMay, didn’t you ban US citizens like Pamela Geller from coming to the UK? Didn’t you also call Donald Trump ‘divisive’. And with your snoopers’ charter passed in to law, wasn’t that just to do with so-called ‘hate crimes’ and nothing to do with national security.

    I think Donald’s got the measure of you, Theresa. And you ain’t no Brexiteer, either.

  111. There is no hyperbole in saying that World War III has been averted.

    Clinton, under instruction from people like Henry Kissinger and George Soros, was to put the final nail in the coffin of the Western nation state. The last outpost – in terms of power – to embody that principle is Russia.

    This war was to be sparked in Syria. In order to block that proxy route to war, the Russians have spent the past few weeks trying to flatten it so that there was no excuse for Clinton to start a war there.

    If you think these things aren’t planned by Bilderbergers and Big Media, then why did the Daily Mail (a Judas Goat newspaper) spend the past few weeks posting so many stories about how Russia is a threat?

    Rusty old Russian ships regularly sail through British waters. These stories don’t amount to a hill of beans, apart from being a drip, drip, drip of propaganda for Henry Kissinger and George Soros’ latest war (thankfully averted):

  112. Frank P – 12:26

    Sorry I cannot find it. Maybe it hasn’t been uploaded yet. What I did flush out was a lot of previous appearances The BBC, and others, by the egregious “Bonnie” Greer. Why is she considered worth consulting about her opinions, on anything whatsoever? As far as I can make out she’s an infrequent scribbler of mainly garbage!

  113. Why would Trump phone May first (as used to happen) when she and the rest of her party tried to throw Farage under a bus?

    If he’s going to lend his glow of power to anyone it will be Farage

    Both men are hated by the establishment still. They still want to overturn their victories.

  114. Just noticed Jeremy Thompson on Sky News from Washington peddling their new mickey mouse flash poll of “Britons'” opinions of POTUS Donald Trump. Hey, you’ll never guess what – it was all negative! They have the nerve to peddle this rubbish the the day after their other polls were exposed as garbage!

  115. It’s time for weeping, hankies out, let’s join in (in joy):

  116. EC @ 15:41

    Not just the Sky having a go, EC, Mark Mardell on the BBC4 Radio World At One was grilling a rather noncommittal US academic, then asked ‘is it conceivable he (the Donald) will reverse Obama’s achievements?’

  117. Noa- 10:57

    “I see the transgendered teleturd is crapping up the Wall again…”

    IT loses the best part of itself every time it goes for one in real life!

  118. Jeano @ 14:21

    Good point, Jeano, and you may have added the debate in the House, the time spent ranting why the Donald should be banned from coming to the UK before the referendum.

    On one of the news channels last night Nigel was shown to be ‘an interim UKIP leader”. Has he come back?

  119. Baron 15:53

    “reverse Obama’s achievements?”

    Don’t make me laugh.
    Stop it, it hurts!

  120. The unlovely “Bonnie” Greer (was ever a name more ill-chosen?) appears frequently on Sky Press Preview, and also on the equivalent BBC programme, although less often. She invariably disgorges a heap of Leftist twaddle, and is known in our household as a “twaddle-ologist” of gold medal standard.
    The other guest’s first name is Christian, not sure of the second, might be May or Grey (am I getting mixed up with 50 Shades of Grey?) and he is the editor of City A.M whatever that might be. Rather pompous, but nowhere near as vomitous as the horrendous “Bonnie”.

  121. Farage!!!

    “This is a big opportunity for all British business because once we’ve left that awful EU thing we can do our first trade deal with the United States of America. Isn’t that great?”

    Mr Farage also suggested that he was the “catalyst” for the downfall of the” Blairites, the Clintonites, the Bushites”.

    “All these dreadful people who work hand in glove with Goldman Sachs and everybody else, have made themselves rich, and ruined our countries,” he said. “I couldn’t be happier.”

    Nail on head. That is all this is about: Bilderbergers, Michael Heseltine, Blairs, Kenneth Clarke, Henry Kissinger, Timothy Garton Ash (Bilderberger and Guardian writer), Clintons, Bushes, George Soros, Goldman Sachs et al.

    That’s what all the mass immigration was for: cheap labour because a cosy elite anted to get rich and stuff everybody else who had to live with the consequences. That’s what the destruction of the nation state was for.

    I want the nation state back everywhere. And why TF is Goldman Sachs and Bilderberger Mark Caney still in TFing BoE?

    And sack Janet Yellen. We have had enough! Roll on, the nation state – everywhere!

  122. LesleyC (16:17)

    Yes, that would be the pompous prick:

    Unfortunately for him, he shares a name with this guy:

    Google rates the head chopper more important than the opinionated co-guest of Ms.Greer; he may find that something of an obstacle in his political career.

    Wiki has so far not recorded his existence. Christopher Mayhew – another pompous Trump despiser was as close as I could get there.

    Pethaps we should list this latest upstart as Christopher May … who? 🙂

  123. If you want to be amused this evening.
    Tears, anguish, devastation for many female Clinton voters

  124. Noa (November 10th, 2016 – 10:54)

    Thanks for the link to the Rod Liddle/George Galloway conversation – it was a pleasure to hear two men speaking such common sense. But also very disturbing indeed, if it’s prognostication of war with Russia was to be taken seriously.

    However I feel confident that after Trump’s election, any such prospect of war with Russia has suddenly metamorphosed into rational likelihood of cordial cooperation with Russia.

    But I raised my eyebrows when I read the Amy Southall piece because it contains this –

    “ Speaking on George’s Friday show after Russia lost its seat on the UN Security Council, Liddle said…….” 

    Surely talkradio employees should know that the UN Security Council and the UN Human Rights Council are entirely different bodies?

  125. TIME Magazine : Trump and May affirm `special relationship`.


  126. Baron at 16:00

    Farage is,de jure,the leader of UKIP;nobody else having signed up to replace him.

  127. Herbert Thornton @ 23:06

    Your hope of rapprochement, Herbert, is shared by the barbarian, it would be sensible to go for another bout of ‘peaceful co-existence’, it worked then, it should work again even if longer term the Donald wanted to have a go militarily at either Russia or China.

    The Armed Forces need an MOT, but more importantly, the American public have had enough of warring. Since Afghanistan, it’s been a new battlefield after another, and what can the neocon show for it? Lost lives of thousands young men and women, even more young people badly maimed, and the Treasury short of trillions of dollars. The recipient countries have come out even worse, and to add embarrassment to injury, the forces the Americans tried to suppress are coming back e.g. Afghanistan.

    If, as you suggests, he diverts some of the money to re-building the country’s crumbling infrastructure, he will both create jobs and calm fears internationally.

  128. Noa @ 10:54

    Where the heck do you dig up stuff like that, Noa. Top grade that, and Baron has already ensured many more will see it.

    Btw, on one point of the chat the poorly educated Slav disagrees with the handsome George. If Estonia is a part of NATO, and if Putin were to invade the country, then the Estonian unwashed are entitled to the same level of protection as any other member of the Treaty like e.g. the Germans, the French or us.

    It may have been pre-mature to invite them in (the prevailing view of the experts then was that Putin’s Russia will keep on going south), but once in, they cannot be just written off.

    Having said that it’s unlikely in the extreme Putin will move up to take over the lands. Strategically, the area is not as important in the age of missiles, but unquestionably he would have preferred the countries to remain unallied, a kind of security belt dividing his fiefdom from the West.

    Many believe that the Baltic states were annexed by the Lenin’s thugs. Untrue that. Their history’s rather chequered and complex (Baron won’t bore you with it, we’re talking altogether about fewer than 5mn people), but for a long period of time the lands were a part of Tzarist Russia.

  129. Fergus Pickering @ 11:55

    As a part of a battlecry, not bad, Fergus, but the Donald needs to show his healing abilities now. The process of reconciliation and societal repair must take place otherwise the establishment will utilise the put-up anger of the teenage contingent, derail his efforts to re-set the country’s compass even before he takes over the steering wheel.

    Baron hears about a large number of assassination treats both addressed to him, but also his supporters. Not unlike the peaceful ROP, aren’t they, the progressive wankers.

    Seeing him sitting next to the Hon Muslim Baron detected a touch of nervousness, has anyone seen it, too? It was for the first time since his campaign began when he wasn’t fully himself, the barbarian though t.

    And did you see the picture of the White House staff? All of them with faces as long as their hours of sulking. Has each of them been sent a sour grape?

    Does he have to keep them? Surely, he must have enough men and women loyal to his course. Let’s get rid of the sulking progressive cast, have a new crew in.

  130. Jeano @ 12:22

    In bit of a conundrum for the Hon Muslim. He would very much prefer to pardon her (if she were to face the judge who knows what she may tell on him), but apparently he cannot, unless the legal process gets off the starting line, a prosecutor presents the case to a grand jury, gets an indictment. They missed an opportunity with the e-mail investigation. Had they kept it going, a case were made to the GJ, the Hon Muslim could have stepped in, pardon not just her, but anyone connected with her case. They still have time to come up with something.

    Poor Comey, he seems like a good candidate for toast, no?

  131. Frank P @ 17:26

    Perhaps their names are identical, Frank, because the society should take great precaution against both of them. Sadly, only one of them is currently under lock and key.

  132. Baron – 22:53

    Commey will agree to resign and will be quietly replaced, along with some others at the FBI, in January. Many at the DoJ and the IRS will be in the firing line too. Hillary’s emails scandal will be forgotten if Obama agrees to pardon others that did far less by comparison. I’m certain that AG Rudolph Guiliani would love to go after the Clinton Foundation on RICO charges but whether he’s allowed to or not is anybody’s guess.
    The Clintonostra my be let off those charges too, if they agree to go quietly into the night. [i.e. FOAD]

  133. Good luck to anybody watching BBC QT tonight. Anybody with a high BP should not even contemplate it!

  134. EC @ 23:11

    Good points, EC, only time will show how serious the Donald was when he said he would appoint a special prosecutor.

    And this (to all): a big apology for the errors.

  135. It wasn’t all bad news on the 8th for the progressives, the voters furnished them with something to feel happy about.

  136. EC (23:14)

    It was worth watching it just to see the pseudo-intellectual Sara Churchwell (an ‘academic’ from the UEA – need I say more?) losing it in a hysterical menopausal apoplectic melt down, every time she spoke. A wonderful demonstration of just how much damage Trump has inflicted on the left.

    OTOH, it was deeply depressing to observe just how deeply the skewed propaganda from the British msm has affected public opinion in the UK about the American GE. Not a single rational comment came from any one of the panellists, nor from any member of the audience.

    Their perception of Clinton as a wronged woman was amazing. No mention of the Benghazi fiasco; no mention of 40 years of abuse of office and misuse of Charity donations via the Clintonosra slush fund aka The Foundation, etc. etc.

    One would have thought that more people would have discovered the truth about her via the intertubes regardless of the msm agitprop. It must surely mean that social media is as heavily infiltrated as the msm and academia.

    Or perhaps its just the selective choice of both panellists and audience for this pernicious programme?

    And the female ‘American Republican’ member of the panel was clearly a Trump hater, too, even though she pretended she had voted for him , obviously to get on the panel to fake some vestige of ‘balance’. Dimblebollocks remarked upon the inconsistency and was embarrassed that she blew the gaffe.


  137. Unless one knows more about the background to it, it’s hard to make much sense of the relationship between the man who allegedly stole money from a Russian insurance company and the Clinton cabal, but smell it does:

    Perhaps Frank can comment.

  138. Multi must tell her plebeians to show greater warmth to the newcomers, it seems that what the German unwashed have done so far wasn’t enough:

  139. And the last one:

    If you want to see sharp brain cum sexy bust in pleasing combination look nowhere but here:

  140. The Times, our great newspaper of note asked on Wednesday whether it was the end of the world?
    It is more pertinent to ask that this morning with the death of the greatest Canadian of all time.
    There is a crack, a crack in everything,
    That’s how the light gets in.

  141. Have you heard about this pledge/contract in the media?
    Donald Trump’s Contract With The American Voter

    Original found here:

  142. Baron (00:55)


    I hear the cymbal sounds of clashing loyalties.

  143. Frank
    I thought QT last night was more of a comedy show than a supposedly “serious” programme. The shrieking harpy Sarah Churchwell was yelling, screeching, waving her arms, as you rightly say, in hysterics. Looked as if she was about to mount her broomstick any minute. I couldn’t stop laughing. If she was an example of the American “sisterhood”, no wonder Donald won.

  144. Romano Verdi (06:04) Malfleur (09:08)

    Sad news to wake up to. I shall miss the old misanthrope (and his backing group – hope they find other work).

    Another contemporary bites the dust. Why am I still here?? Punishment perhaps? 🙂

  145. Fred’s slicing of the Donald, feels about right, but one thing he’s missed, the guillotining of the progressive cabal, Full Monty of it, the dismantling of their power base, the annihilation of their, the neocons’, doctrine of spreading ‘democracy’ in places where animals are treated better than humans.

  146. L.C. (10:35)

    Indeed. But the frightening thought is that she is one of the vast army of ‘academics’ to whom the education of our children is entrusted to. Her pretentious twaddle on the Friday night ‘culture’ slot under the stewardship of Crusty Squawk used to infuriate me; her agitprop in those days was covert, but last night she let the mask slip and we saw the evil heart of the left beating relentlessly, pumping its poison into the body politic. One can only hope at least some of the viewers read the signs of the problems we still face. Certainly nobody in the audience saw it for what it was.

  147. Baron (10:45)

    That’s two cold showers I have had this morning as a result of plugging into The Wall. First Leonard – now Fred’s reality check.

    I agree about the upsides you adduce, Baron. But he’s spot on about the realistic prospects of fulfilment of promises. Let’s hope that, like me and the the upshot of the election, he has underestimated the determination and cunning of The Donald. At least we can still still hope. How much of that commodity would have been around here if the witch had won. One last caveat: remember – she won the popular vote (at last count anyway) so we still have 50 million or so useful eejits to cope with over there and considerably more here and in Europe I suspect. A battle has been won, but let’s carry on with the war, in FSMO, after a day or two more of the celebration. 🙂

    IncidentallyI had put off reading Fred’s post-coitus musing, as I had feared he might say what I was thinking – and he did.

    I’m working on a more optimistic appraisal, which I’ll bore you with later, if you choose to read it.

  148. Baron 22.12

    The concern the Baltic states and Ukraine now cause is akin to that of Czechoslovakia and Poland in the 1930’s.
    Strategically they are indefensible; (though arguably Czecholovakia was in 1938), their absorption into the EU and NATO due to the machinations of a dominant and united Germany, furthering the German strategy of Eastward expansion through the EU.
    In practicality and conscience the UK should no more support the EU and NATO in this matter than it should have declared war on Germany following the invasion of Poland.
    For Europe’s political class the current bellicosity is a primarily device to further the hegemonic ambitions and expansionism of the EU.

  149. Frank P @ 10:29

    You’ve pointed to this before, Frank, the barbarian remembers it, unusual as it may be, his remembering it, but it cannot stop him reading the guy, he furnishes new facts that check, has unusual insights very likely thanks to his KGB contacts, points to what the Kremlin may have have on the list of things to do.

    In no way it means the barbarian takes him at face value. He doesn’t anyone, it’s still a heavy reliance on the half a dozen still functioning cels in his cranium.


    Here’s an essay by Paul Weston, but click on the You Tube link in the comments below – it’s that thing as rare as a unicorn or hen’s teeth, a lefty with a comprehension of reality!

    Frank P – I hope you enjoyed the Rioja! I had a glass myself last night whilst having dinner with two dear friends, both irredeemably lefty if I may use such a pejorative adjective, but let me talk without interruption or being “triggered” for a couple of hours about Donald and how important his triumph and the eleventh hour expression of feeling of the ignored and derided millions is not only to our freedom and prosperity, the rule of law and peace, but to the continuation of basic effing decency.

    I have watched many hours of Donald in these last weeks, and he is not at all an arrogant man and his natural affinity with “ordinary” people has the ring of truth to it and they viscerally or otherwise feel this bond of decency and the innate feeling they have that decency shouldn’t have to be defended and it certainly shouldn’t be attacked in the vicious ugly way that Left do day in day out. They will have noticed how humbled he appeared to be, how touched he seemed when sitting beside Obama yesterday in the Whitehouse.

    My lefty friends accepted my view that at the very least something evil has been averted, and at the eleventh hour, something good may have just started. I myself am most profoundly relieved and I will write a letter to Donald Trump to thank him and his family for putting themselves through this knowing that they have a tough and unimaginable time ahead. There’s a story, excuse me if I read it here!, that Donald’s car broke down on the highway and a passing motorist pulled over to offer some help, and was in fact able to fix whatever the problem was, so Donald said thank you and asked what he could do to show his thanks, and after some persuasion the helpful motorist said simply that he’d appreciate some flowers being sent to his wife. The van load of flowers duly arrived and in the thank you note, Donald had written – by the way, we’ve paid your mortgage too.

  151. Frank P @ 10:29

    Agreed, Noa, but sorting NATO with its pinpricks e.g. the predicament of the Baltic lands, comes under the heading of the doable.

    As you well know the barbarian has argued the warmongering isn;t motivated by a genuine desire to hit Russia militarily, it’s a smokescreen for the West’s inability or unwillingness to sort the expansionist Islam. Not the jihadis, this threat is nothing compared to the future threat of ensuring that the two belief systems, that of the secular and the other of a strict, unmovable adherence to the teaching of the mushroom imbibing scribbler live together in harmony.

    It, the focusing on Russia as the enemy number One, also helps in that Putin’s take on things like the hetero family, the sovereignty of nations, the Judeo-Christian heritage and stuff resonates with the unwashed dog the West, goes directly against the PC, gender fluid, rainbow engineering efforts of our leaders …

    (Baron has to go, sorry, ma y be continued later).

  152. Father Naddaf in Nazareth praises his visitor ( in an IDF T-shirt ) Tommy Robinson.

  153. I found that edition of QT seriously concerning. Here were people supposedly responsible for making our laws and influencing the minds of our young people engaged in what amounted to nothing more than irrational, superficial emoting, hysterical ranting and rabble rousing. The lack of self awareness and hypocrisy were astonishing, especially from the SNP harpy (in Southend – why?) who complained of Trump being “divisive” as though trying to break up the UK is somehow not divisive, as though her leader Sturgeon is not a divisive figure.

    We are seriously fucked as a nation unless our silly politicians and their media groupies get a grip on their emotions, display some maturity, rationality, circumspection and proper balance.

    If President-elect Trump expelled our diplomats after that appalling display it would not be surprising and I wouldn’t blame him.

  154. Colonel Mustard – 16:32

    I couldn’t make myself watch it, even on iPlayer, so I cannot comment.
    I agree wholeheartedly with your last two paragraphs.

    The media, and the BBC in particular, is rotten to the core.


  155. “Like the rest of the liberal media, the BBC has been having a bit of a Downfall-style crisis over Donald Trump’s victory.”
    James Delingpole

  156. Wiki – Sarah Churchwell – She is known for her expertise in twentieth- and twenty-first-century fiction.


  157. Despite the good news this week, it’s especially sad that one factor is missing. The presence of Verity.

  158. Herbert (17:42)

    Yes, i often wonder what Verity would have made of Trump. And AWK, too.
    Surprised she has not surfaced to comment on such a momentous event.

  159. England 3 Scotland 0

    Anybody know why the Jocks trapped in Pink?

  160. EC

    Despite rumours the pink strip was not donned in order to win the support of the SNPs’ self professed arch homophile Tasmina Ahmed-Sheik, but because
    Scotland had been forced by FIFA to wear their bright pink away strip against England in the World Cup qualifier at Wembley because their navy blue home strip’s white sleeves would clash with England white home kit and that they would have to wear their alternative.
    Yep, Blue clashes with white in the fantasy world of FIFA. Bigger bungs might have helped, as the right hon Vaz might say.

  161. RobertRetyred (00:26)

    This link on the same subject is also important:

  162. From mail, article about some dope young American superstar I’ve never heard of and I’m sure you haven’t either.
    ‘We believed that on November 9, they’d be licking their wounds while we celebrated. It is painful on a cellular level knowing those men got what they wanted.
    ‘It’s painful to know that white women, so unable to see the unity of female identity, so unable to look past their violent privilege, and so inoculated with hate for themselves, showed up to the polls for him, too.’
    And she ended with a rallying cry, saying: ‘Wednesday was a day of mourning. Thursday, too. Hell, I’m giving us till Sunday. But then we fight.
    Hilarious shit.

  163. If he carries on like this not only the electoral collage would try to get rid of him. His supporters may turn against him, too.

    And this:

    Baron’s yesterday’s posting at 11.50 was in response to Noa, not Frank. Apologies to both.

  164. RobertRetyred @ 00:26

    This is an aspect of sharia finance the barbarian wasn’t aware of, Robert, that whatever it is that’s financed through it comes under sharia law. This requires wider circulation, Baron has already begun the process.

  165. EC @ 21:35

    The score is by far more flattering than the performance of our boys, Baron thinks.

    The Scots lacked finishing and luck, defensively our team disappointed very much, a stronger opponent would have punished us.

    And even though the burnt Manchester United star was kicking the ball OKish, his performance overall suggested he was past it, too heavy, too slow, and near blind to find the goal. Replace.

  166. John birch @ 08:12

    You should try to enjoy it, John, Baron does.

    It’s not often our side scores, and scores so painfully, so big, and so un-expectantly. In fact, we should encourage the wanking fruitcakes to carry on demonstrating forever, peacefully, of course, any violence including ‘causing offence’ should be severely punished, the miscreants despatched to a carefully selected place like the deserts of Sadi Arabia, it’s warmish there with plenty of sand to to built castles, forge gay relationships, debate them within the Saudi legal system …..

  167. This week’s Speccie has excelled itself in yet another episode in its rite of passage from sage conservative journal to metro-lefty bubble and squeak.

    Giving Tanya Gold a feature piece to sneer at Trump rather than keeping her chained up in the back yard snarling at restaurants sets the tone, with Parris and the lamentable Rifkind bringing up the rear. Parris has been savaged online for his literary impersonation of Marie Antoinette but Farage a fascist? Come off it Rifkind, we know you owe your big break in journalism to your accident of birth but at least you might try and pretend a bit more convincingly that you are a serious writer and not just a peddler of narcissistic metro-twattery who conceives political dissent as a threat to the loosely-termed “civilisation” that you and your kind enjoy in London.

    But the prize this week must go to Lloyd Evans for the most sneering and cruel aside in the whole rotten rag – and in a theatre review to boot. Describing Glenda Jackson’s “chic scarlet cardigan” in Lear he scorns:-

    “It looks like Granny wearing ‘something special’ for her 80th at the care home”

    What especially cruel and vile ageism is that, what sneering, searing snobbery in a single sentence. And in a magazine that many 80 year olds (used to) read. At 80 my granny was still running her own home, with more compassion and common sense in her little finger than in the whole of the Speccie’s junior league editorial team combined.

    She was fortunate. Care homes are sad places, Lloyd, speaking volumes about a society no longer prepared to reciprocate at the other end of family. If those relegated to live their last years in those places brighten one special day with a special outfit who are you to sneer and to use that as a cruel device to demonstrate your self-appointed cleverness? You will also become old and the end of years is as uncertain for you as for everyone else.

    It’s no consolation that in his well hidden photo Evans looks like a super-annuated Bay City Roller and a complete ****.

  168. Col. Mustard et al

    Indeed, The Spectator editorial policy seems remains one of giving grudging acceptance perhaps to a policy or two of Donald Trump but to express it in such a way that the journalist (as they like to call themselves) won’t be dropped from any Xmas Parties, or their editor, he of Distorted Vowel Syndrome (a disorder familiar to myself coming as I do from Co. Tyrone) doesn’t get scrubbed from any Xmas Card lists. But one of the things that get me about the MSM is their total lack of business acumen. In most cases the big names of the newspaper world have circulation figures now about the same as the Catholic Herald. Have none of them noticed that there’s a potential readership of over 17 million in this country and 150 million across the pond for some fact-based writing? Proof, not that anyone here needs it, that journalism is propaganda and glorious to see the outrage of shits like Wolf Blitzer on CNN screaming yesterday that Trump didn’t tell him what time he was leaving Washington to go back to New York.
    Yes, it’s been a glorious week, and I hope Donald is as true as his word and, as Blair said in 1997, hits the ground running.

    Oh, and Baron, those parts of Obamacare that Trump is keeping were already in the Republican plans for healthcare and it’s possible this has been phrased in the way we’ve heard to be seen as conciliatory, though it is fantastic to know that he won without the press, and has no need of them. The public, and those journalists left out in the cold, will have to get their news from the outlets of Trump’s choosing.

    Let’s all have some more Rioja!

  169. On slogans and mottos:

    “We’re going to clean the swamp!”

    Now that President-elect Trump has achieved one of the greatest political coups in history, he should remember the old adage, “When you’re up to your arse in crocodiles, it is sometimes difficult to remember that you’re THERE to clean the swamp.”

    He will also probably have to adapt his main campaign slogan. Pro-tem it will have to be “Make America Wait Again!” Another even more ancient saw should hover in the back of his mind: “Rome wasn’t built in a day!”

    Steady as you go Donald! The left has demonstrably descended into chaos and panic. Savour the moment, but be prepared for a Long (Reverse) March. The world is watching. Europe is ripe for a similar revolt. The European Union delenda est!

    And finally, keep your eyes open for wolves in sheeps’ clothing.

    I think that’s enough mottos for one morning. But it’s wonderful to think of Gramsci and Alinsky groaning in their graves. The Donald used their own rules for radicals agin ’em. So to close, let’s indulge ourselves with a Shakespearian paraphrase:

    “Hoist with their own petards”.

  170. Baron 09-54
    Don’t worry Baron I most certainly am enjoying it , like you I expected Trump to win because the same situation is going on in America as it is in this country and Europe .
    my wife was quite correct when she said that people were afraid to tell the truth to opinion polls the left have effectively made people frightened of saying what they think if it’s outside the leftie mantra.
    My wife was correct in her opinion that the Conservatives would be voted in and also the people would be voting for Brexit but she became a little wobbly on whether Trump would win .
    I said to her stick to your instincts, the same things are going on people are not telling the truth for exactly the same reasons they didn’t over here.
    she is taking a long shot and putting money on Marine Le Pen at the French election .
    The kids are all in tears because of being brainwashed right Through their educational life , God knows how we’re going to get them to think sensibly, how can you believe your wrong when your whole life Has been manipulated by long march teachers.
    we are moving in the right direction but there’s so much to put right but it will take a generation, may be two to get things on a sensible track again.

    Trump will be much, much better for Britain

    The deplorables are rather wonderful people, aren’t they? Both here and in the United States. The people’s revolution continues apace, defying the odds each time, defying the pollsters, defying the elite. I cannot tell you how pleasurable it was to scamper downstairs on Wednesday morning to check out the reaction on the Guardian’s website. It kept me cackling for hours. The previous morning the paper had concluded its fatuous leader column with the words: ‘Americans should summon a special level of seriousness and display a profound responsibility when they go to the polls.’ That alone had made me yearn for a Trump victory — the arrogant, chastising tone which liberals, especially European liberals, always adopt when dealing with commoners and plebs, the people who do not buy into their palpably failing and idiotic worldview.
    That unintentionally hilarious sentence about a ‘special level of seriousness’ followed paragraph after paragraph of hyperbolic stupidity: Trump is a fascist racist who will devour your first-born and lead us all to Armageddon. This is the voice of that horrible tranche of self-righteous and authoritarian leftist opinion which petitioned to have Trump banned from entering the UK because he said things with which these imbeciles disagreed.
    The reaction the next day when it became clear that the Americans had indeed gone to the polls with a special level of seriousness did not disappoint. Not just the shrieking readers, but the columnists, too. ‘This is a terrifying moment for America. Hold your loved ones close’, for example, from the reliably hilarious Stephen Thrasher. ‘People of colour, women, Muslims, queer people, the sick, immigrants: all are threatened by Donald Trump. They need your love, your warmth, your support.’ Oh, how we laughed.
    My own preference for the US presidency was always going to be a bit of a long shot: a joint Ted Cruz/Bernie Sanders ticket. Redistribution of wealth, protectionism, a curb on immigration and the healing power of Lord Jesus Christ. That would have done me. But the Americans almost never do as I wish. I was for McGovern in 1972 but grew to like Nixon — and look what they did to him. I was for Mondale, Dukakis, Perot and McCain. In almost all those cases — perhaps the last aside — I was horribly wrong and the American voters right. The only one on which we accorded was Clinton in ’96. The other Clinton, the one with the cigar and the semen.
    I was briefly for Obama in 2008 until the witless euphoria began to dissolve my brain
    I was briefly for Obama in 2008 until the witless euphoria began to dissolve my brain and I switched at the last minute. The Mandela-fication of Obama — crass, patronising and misplaced — annoyed me more than McCain’s evident dimness and negative charisma. It is a bad thing to dislike a candidate simply because people you hate revere him, as was the case eight years ago. And scarcely better to prefer a candidate simply because people you hate hate him, as was the case this time around.
    That being said, I found it hard to buy into the Trump camp’s mythologising, partly because I have a mistrust of self-made men who became self-made men as the consequence of a vast inheritance and partly because of his utter inability to construct a sentence which made anything approaching sense. And I was suspicious too of the vitriol and odium heaped upon Mrs Clinton, no less absolutist and hyperbolic in its tone. She may well be unlikeable, devious and part of a dynastic machine, but the insistence that she should be in prison struck me as a totalitarian impulse, as unpleasant as the counterclaim that Trump would press the little red button as soon as he got himself the nuke codes.
    Such polarisation! Do you remember those days when political parties — here and in the States — yearned for ‘clear blue water’ between themselves and their rivals? For an ideological difference between our various elected elites, all of whom seemed to believe — à la Fukuyama — in the same thing? In the US and in Europe the lazy consensus that bound the leading parties together has all but evaporated. Now, from Budapest or Athens to San Francisco (via London and Warsaw), it is a case of populism of the left or right versus the vested interests. There’s plenty of clear blue water now. Be careful what you wish for.
    I was for Trump in the end, by a whisker, by a wisp of his ridiculous hair, simply for pragmatic domestic reasons. Trump will be much, much better for Britain. I have never signed up to the notion of a special relationship: the US does whatever the hell it wants and if we’re on board, then so much the better, insofar as it matters a damn. But do not expect even the slenderest reciprocation in Suez or Grenada or the Falklands, or in attempting to extradite IRA terrorists. There is no reciprocation and never has been — perhaps (if you are American) rightly.

    ‘You can’t sell those. They might encourage smokers to eat sugar.’
    But it is also true that the Democratic party is, in general, far less mindful of British interests than the Republicans and, particularly, Donald Trump. Hillary Clinton has repeatedly said she wishes us to get around the table with Argentina to discuss the future of the Falklands. Why thank you, ma’am, for the offer — but no. It was the Democrats who insisted that we stay in the EU and then scolded us that we would be at the back of the queue for trade deals once we left. Trump was jubilant about Brexit and may well not know where Argentina is. The Democrats have their guns pointed towards nasty, homophobic Russia, while Trump knows well who are the true enemies of the West.
    We stayed up with chilli dogs and pumpkin pie to watch the results. I like to imagine that in Boston and San Diego, Americans stay up on the night of our general elections with bangers and mash and Sussex pond pudding. That doesn’t happen, does it?
    Anyway, don’t forget to hold your loved ones close. Priceless.

  172. Few snippets of joyfulness:

    ‘Everyone is looking miserable,’ says one female progressive on a BBC Radio4 comedy vomit just before twelve this morning, then continues to lambast the racist, homophobic, fascist blah, blah, blah new Head of the world, and how the audience claps, the noise is deafening, could be heard with the volume on the radio turned right down.

    ‘Only a quarter of the registered voters cast their ballot papers’, shouted another anointed harridan, this one of American origin, ‘it’ so undemocratic’. Nobody has stepped in to tell her that had the Clinton woman won, it would also been on a similar percentage of the registered voters.

    And last piece of joy was delivered by the younger Dimbleby’s programme called ‘Any Questions?’. A man asked his question, it was answered in some length by four members of the club of the anointed (more about them later if time permits).

    Dimbleby then asked the man what he thought himself it was that turned people from the elites to someone like Trump, racists, misogynist (you know the score by now). The man started talking, almost immediately was interrupted by the host who ordered him rather curtly ‘to cut to the chase’. The man was was trying to say what we all said many times ourselves, nobody listens to the plebs on the issues of their deep concern, anyone challenging the ‘correct’ line set up by the anointed gets labelled racists, misogynist, homophobic ….

    If one wanted an example of what it was that kicked the Clinton clique and those like them out, here it was, in few short seconds. Nothing has yet changed, the commoners are still shut down, the elites in charge keep yapping the same mantra as before.

  173. John Birch (13:37)

    I feel sorry for Rod. As a dyed in the wool leftie he is gradually dragging himself into the world of reality: the process of growing up is painful and protracted for some, especially one who is still high on his own polemical prolixity and loquaciousness.

    That post is all over the shop. Make up your mind Rod; you can’t ride two horses at once when they are determined to part ways. Sooner or later your bollocks will drop out if you do. 🙂

  174. And for those who do not read the South China Morning Post every day:

    “Meanwhile, I can’t help but think Presidents Vladimir Putin, Xi Jinping (習近平 ) and Trump will get along quite well personally. This is despite Trump’s criticism of China for being a currency manipulator, and for stealing American jobs and intellectual property.

    Trump is strangely popular in China, may be more so than in his own country. We have Chinese chat groups like “Donald Trump Super Fans Club” and “God Emperor Trump”.”

  175. “This guy, he’s like a maniac, OK? And you have to give him credit. How many young guys – he was like 26 or 25 when his father died – take over these tough generals, and all of a sudden, you know, it’s pretty amazing when you think of it,” he said. “How does he do that?”
    And answering his own rhetorical question, Mr Trump said: “He wiped out the uncle. He wiped out this one, that one. I mean, this guy doesn’t play games. And we can’t play games with him. Because he really does have missiles. And he really does have nukes”.

    No, not Putin, not even Stalin.
    That was The Donald on Kim Jong-un.

  176. After QT, I should have known better than to try HIGNFY. Five minutes. Off.

    Distant memories of 1957+ Grammar School arsing-about are still recalled as well, all right, daft and juvenile, but actually hilarious.

    A few years ago all an ‘alternative’ i.e. not funny comedian had to do was scream “Fatcher!” to bring the house down, whilst leaving one rolley-eyed.

    This was worse, much worse. Never again.

  177. Wondering what Melanie’s take would be on Trump’s triumph, I googled this up:

    Our erstwhile blogmeisterin hasn’t lost her touch.

  178. And while we are still basking in the afterglow of political nuke, here’s another good piece:

    Just sad that Miller didn’t highlight the National Review’s ‘man-child’ editor Rich Lowry’s stabbing of Mark Steyn in the back, which in my view was their most dastardly deed and prompted me to cancel my subscription.

    Very glad that Don Trumpo had added his “Fuck you!” to the chorus.

  179. No need to watch the whole nine minutes (unless you want to), just the first two will do. Around half of the American Republicans as well as Democrats agree the country is divided, and around the same precentage of either party members is afraid of the other party.

    The guy who runs the show quotes the figures, then goes into recent history, bleating about Vietnam war or whatever. Not a word about the Hon Muslim. It was he who was in charge of the country for the last eight years. How did he do uniting the country? What did he do to bring everyone together? Did his policies gel the two streams of the political though in any way?

    The point Baron’s trying to make is simple. The man in charge must be partly to blame for the deep divisions in the American society, deeper than than at nay time before, more polarised, more bitter, close to the two sides attacking each other.

    But will any of the MSM even hint at it?

  180. Left-leaning Muslim woman who voted for Trump and was accused of selling out nails the “liberal honour brigade” much to the chagrin of CNN.

    More sense than anything you’ll find on the BBC or in our Parliament.

  181. Anybody else watch Polliakof’s BBC-sponsored murder and dismemberment of British history ‘Close to the Enemy’?

    It does not honour those we owe a debt to but traduces them. Sum it up in two words? Juvenile trash.

  182. Another Trump-CNN interview ante-victory. Delicious.

  183. “Britain’s Plan to Tame Trump” – Headlines of the Sunday Times.
    Fucking idiots!

    The usual prattle on Sky News Preview.

  184. Colonel Mustard @ 20:35

    If the CNN harridan cannot side even with this soft spoken Muslim woman, Colonel, the fight on our hands is massive, the Donald will have to be truly vicious, hit these anointed tossers hard.

  185. The chorus of infantile abuse of Donald Trump still being published in so many “newspapers” somewhat cheers me up.

    Why? Because it makes me hope that it will drive away big numbers of their subscribers. It that happens it will serve them right.

    I only wish the same could happen to the BBC.

  186. How the other half lives:

    A charmingly adipose amoeba named Bryony Gordon has a regular column in the DT, and in today’s paper chooses to write about her daughter. She says she has decided to bring the child in a ‘gender-neutral way’.

    ‘We painted her nursery blue, and refused to buy pink clothes. Thomas the Tank Engine and Fireman Sam were shown as much as Peppa Pig, if not more. And yet, now my daughter has the steely will that is almost unique to three-year-old, she will only wear pink and purple.”

    This beggars belief, on the altar of some half-baked, progressive, vomit inducing obsession with gender, or rather the absence of it, these people cannot stop experimenting even with babies.

    It’s their future, Baron shouldn’t interfere, and quite frankly, he doesn’t give a dry shite if she brings up her daughter to suffer from deep psychosis or worse, but reading of this gender manipulation makes the barbarian think that perhaps nothing short of the pain and suffering that only war brings would rouse these deluded fuckwits from the delusional coma they’re in.

  187. Frank P @ 22:53

    How can you tell, Frank, what the headline’s going to be? An informer working for the rag?

  188. Colonel Mustard @ 20:41

    No, is the answer, Colonel, the barbarian is left listening to the radio mostly. This lunchtime, just before the ‘Money Box’ (good one, seldom any political bias) a comedy show (Baron forgets the name of the vomit), devoted solely to – have a guess. The barbarian wanted to listen to it, he minds not, but the other individual in the car objected.

    Still, last night, France24, a debate on Trump’s possible foreign policy. Two Americans, one from the Daily Beast, the other (a female) from the NY Times. The usual crap, but what stood out was the man from the DB saying over and over again that Russia had no right to meddle in east Ukraine. A French journalist on the panel challenged him pointing out that the Americans have invaded countries, too, are in Syria today, uninvited, no threat to their national security.

    ‘That’s different,’ said the DB man, ‘we’re supporting forces of democracy there’.

    Only few minutes before he said it, the programme was showing a clip of an armed group, supposedly friendly to the Americans and armed by them, waving weapons, shouting ‘death to America’ as an American convoy drove at some speed through the same street the rebels were congregating on. Unbelievable this.

  189. On page 25 of today’s DT, tucked in a bottom right corner, a two and abit sentences long (Baron kids you not, the third sentence wasn’t finished) the news that the Turkish police detained the chairman of the main opposition newspaper Cumhuriet (nine executives from the same paper were arrested last week).

    The third sentence says: “Since the failed putsch, more than 110,000 judges, teachers, police and ”

    Leaving aside the unfinished reporting, imagine if in Russia the police were to arrest the same number of people of these ranks. The missiles would be hitting the Kremlin by now, Baron reckons.

  190. Turkey – precisely Baron.

    As the elites rush about trying to nullify Brexit, readers of British propaganda papers are not to be told that, yes, they read the situation right.

    Turkey is a no, no for news editors until Brexit is reversed.

  191. The Mail has no idea what to do with Trump! It’s wonderful. That paper libelled his wife in the campaign (called her a hooker) and now Rothermere and Dacre have got to deal with the fact that Trump is president.

  192. Andrew Neil has always used the same tactic as radio phone-in shows. Always invite in someone with lesser debating skills and then bully them to make yourself look authoritative.

    Here’s how to deal with Andrew Neil on live TV:

  193. Sultana Knish’s notes on this weeks historical event. If it they had been written as a treatment for TV drama series, they would have been dismissed as too far-fetched to suspend disbelief. But they are as near the truth about the last two decades, as you will ever read:

    Wonderful reportage, satire, history. Choose your own label.

  194. Noa, the Rod Liddle / George Galloway radio link is a joy. How ironic that two people who thought each other the most vile man in Britain should put aside their differences over Brexit. It really was the most magnificent coalition of unpigeonholeables we will ever see in our lifetimes.

    Same as the Trump victory.

    It has been every Tom, Dickand Harriet – with usually opposing views – joining arms to give a collective xxxx you to the elites. Amen to that.

  195. My posting (November 12th, 2016 – 23:25) included this –

    ”The chorus of infantile abuse of Donald Trump still being published in so many “newspapers” somewhat cheers me up. Why? Because it makes me hope that it will drive away big numbers of their subscribers.”

    I don’t for a moment imagine that anybody at the N.Y.Times read my comment, but it makes me wonder if there is already panic there. –

  196. Ha welch ein augenblick

    Marine Le Pen

    “Do we want to be a region managed by the technocrats of the European Union? ”

    (Andrew Marr)

  197. The good side of humanity.
    Owner ‘flabbergasted’ as hundreds join Walnut the whippet on his final walk after Facebook invitation

  198. The Trump thing is all very well and a little gloating is fine; though the proof of that pudding is in the eating.
    Now let’s get back to the real world, where Europes’ politicians are complicit in the post 1945 genocide of Western civilisation on a far grander scale than even Himmler and Heydrich envisaged.

  199. And in a powerful polemic Melanie Phillips reminds us of Britain’s own continuing and socialist originated, antisemitism.

  200. Alexander Chancellor in this week’s Speccie is another Remainer whinging about Trump. He wrote:-

    ” . . this ‘traumatic’ campaign, as the New York Times has called it, will have a lasting impact. It has left Americans more divided and disillusioned about politics than ever.”

    That is to miss the whole point in a quite spectacularly awesome way! The result of the election demonstrates that Americans were already divided and disillusioned beforehand. Hence the result!

    And to slyly suggest as though, had Hillary won, the 60+ million people who voted Trump would not somehow be divided from or disillusioned by the inevitable lefty triumphalism, hubris, gushing and fawning that would have followed. No, they could go back to being disregarded and scorned, or coerced into the lefty establishment groupthink as before.

    It’s peculiar, when the establishment lefties are in charge they conceive that everyone thinks as they do (or should) and happily ignore or sneer at any dissent. Then, when they lose the election and their power, only then does the situation suddenly become ‘divisive’ and the new leader or outcome suddenly causes such terrible division. It’s a weird combination of arrogance, malevolence and stupidity that establishment lefties can’t or won’t recognise that. The ‘heads we win, tails you lose’ behaviour so typical of the breed, that need for them to kept happy in their delusions – or else.

  201. My last sentence above should read “… to be kept happy . . . “

  202. Jeano – 01:34

    Yes, Neil’s Beeboid chimp was somewhat muted on that occasion too.

  203. Found this on Mail Online, thought it was highly amusing.

    Petunia, Timbuktu, United States, 1 day ago
    I know, let’s play the blame game! I nominate James Comey for blame, for doing his job until the Justice Department squashed him. How DARE he do his job and try to investigate Queen Hillary! I also nominate President Obama for the blame, for not getting up and doing a song and dance to pull my a$$ out of this pit of being loathed. Oh and for not stopping the head of the FBI for doing his job. How DARE he cross ME, the GREAT QUEEN HILLARY!!! Oh, and finally, I nominate YOU THE PEOPLE for disgracefully shaming me for NOT GETTING OUT TO VOTE FOR ME, You Basket of DEPLORABLES!!!

  204. It’s a great pity that Farage’s own platform in the UK collapsed as he stepped off it.

    Is it possible that he could return, get a grip of UKIP and lead it into the next election? At the moment he’s enjoying his double whammy of euphoria. He needs to get back to work and exploit his newly forged advantage with the imminent leader of “the free world”. The UK and the US working in conjunction with the new mandate could really rout the progress of the Long March.

    Teresa May’s condescention will not be a welcome stance with Trump. She should be arranging a State Visit at the earliest opportunity and get him to Buckhouse to win over Brenda. Nigel can warn him against pussygrabbing there. I think Phil the Greek would hit it off with The Donald. A whole new era (and meaning) of ‘hands across the sea’. 🙂

  205. There is a cornucopia of commentary, both ante and post the triumph of Trump, around the blogosphere and across the msm swamp. Somebody should compile a well-chosen compendium of the best bits: prescient, wise, witty and wildly wrong – then publish it for posterity. I’d buy a copy like a shot. Michael Moore already gave us a title:

    “The Biggest ‘Fuck You!’ in the History of the World”.

    Wonder if there is a copyright on that phrase? If it was duly accredited in the foreward, I doubt he could litigate. The posts and links on the CHW would alone provide rich pickings.

  206. Frank P – 15:19

    I agree with your last paragraph, but the first is a little unkind when the party is in the middle of a leadership election, one no worse than those conducted by the legacy parties recently.

    I think Farage has earned his wings: he doesn’t need to refight old battles, or get involved with the daily activities of the party, which is what the leader needs to do, especially UKIP’s. The party needs to work out what it wants for the future and Farage needs to do his own thing, at least until the new leader is elected, and for some time after! Farage is now a national/international politician, especially after treating Trump respectively for so long, unlike our previous PM and so many other senior political figures. The Party needs a completely different set of requirements/objectives and it needs to grow some more leaders. Yes, it needs a lot more with vision, the ability to get their message across and persuade. The message needs to change slightly to keep it fresh and more targeted. Even though the last party manifesto was more than adequate, it is last year’s effort!

  207. The point that I was trying to make is that Trump grabbed the GOP by the balls amd dragged it into the real world. He did it by sheer force of personality – warts and all – (on both sides) and took half the electorate with him. Now he’s got the key to the White House. Nigel’s only platform presently is as a much ridiculed member of the club he want’s to close down.

    He must consolidate the four million or so who voted UKIP in the last election and pick up more disillusioned Labour voters – and indeed Conservative voters – who want a Trump-like revolution. Coat-tailing Trump is not a bad move in the short term, but he’s neglecting the Brexit process which is under serious attack by both foes and alleged friends.

    Nigel is a leader, but a leader without a constituency becomes increasingly risible. The antics of the current so-called leadership of the UKIP do not bear scrutiny. Personally I need a party to vote for. Under its present leadership it won’t be the Tory party. It can never be the increasingly rabid leftist Labour party. Luckily the libtards are virtually extinct.

    I suspect that there are millions like me who are looking to be part of a populist revolt. Farage is putting the cart before the horse.

    Come home Nigel and resume being the leader you were, with the extra nous gleaned on the Trump train. You’ve had your holiday and Uncle Sam is a seductive old hombre. I know that from my own exploits over there. But there is work to be done here. America will always put America first. Certainly so after this latest eruption. Donald has made that clear. Wish him well and get your arse back over here. Time to end the jollies.

  208. Typo alert – Bannon – apologies.

  209. Browsing Bannon’s Wiki entry, in conjunction with my (19:10) I’m left with some disturbing vibes. Who is pulling whose strings here? Chancer meets chancer. Who prevails? Will probably be fun watching it unfold. Whatever -blood on the carpet of the Oval Office , seems certain. Make a change from stale semen, I suppose.

  210. Frank P – 18:51

    Indeed, your post gives a fair description of the current situation, but I would like to add one grain of sand to this oyster 🙂

    I thought NF had given his all after the 2015 GE and a break from leadership, especially the day to day ‘putting out fires’, was well earned. But it was not to be and then, with CMD arranging an early referendum, the opportunity was lost.

    I think NF returning again wouldn’t be the best option. Just like a teenager needing to enter the rest of the world and take responsibility, before returning to the family business, the Party needs to sort itself out, in fact it needs to ‘grow up’ and Farage has already moved on. And the MSM would continue to tease – they do after only two ‘returns’!

    Yes, it’s risky, but that is the new norm. And Farage could always go back into the private sector, or retire – though I think either is unlikely! 🙂

  211. RobertRetyred @ 19:54

    One can only hope the Donald will go through with his promise, tear up the Paris parchment, Robert.

  212. Frank P @ 18:51

    Seconded, Frank, your call to Nigel to take over the outfit again.

    There will be by-elections, the time’s ripe, it’s a chance for him to reach even higher that Brexit, he could achieve Allexit, bury the Brussels monstrosity for good.

  213. The barbarian has scanned some of the Sunday papers, and got a shock. Nobody blames the KGB Colonel for the Donald’s victory.

    How come? Have they all gone soft in mind? Such an easy explanation, and one that would seamlessly flow from the Kremlinphobia of only days ago (on hacking, funding, directing ….. ).

  214. Frank P @ 16:46

    Someone’s probably already beavering at it, Frank, and will make noticeable wad of cash, if he gets it right.

  215. So Priebus is Chief of Staff, but with Bannon as Chief Counsel . Soft cop – hard cop?

    Interesting. Equal patners in intrigue and each will keep an eye on the other.

  216. An excellent piece by Clarkson in the ST, Baron’s rating of him has gone down after his support for the Remain traitors, this restores it somewhat.

    His turn of phrase is as good as what Rod, Douglas or even Mark can produce e.g. “they (our leaders) will continue to push for gay rights and transgender traffic lights and cycle lanes and anti-bullying campaigns and tougher rules on hate crimes and more immigration and lower speed limits and healthier polar bears.’

    Or (talking about people in the northern pubs here) “there’s no time to worry about the correct word for ‘cross dresser’ when you haven’t got any money”, or in America “there are people who … have no warm clothes or teeth and, forgive my language, but exactly how much of a shit do you think they give about transgender issues or the offing polar bears?”

    Worth reading, the piece.

  217. Frank P @ 22:37

    He needs somebody with good knowledge, contacts, ear of the bureaucracy, Frank, hence Priebus, who had the courage to back him throughout. Bannon can handle the outside universe of hacks, kick the ones who’d try to slow down the switchover, reward the ones who back the new captain.

    Not a bad decision, certainly better than the near u-turn on Obamacare, over 72% of those who voted for him said they did so because of his promise to scrap the deal on the health delivery designed by the Hon Muslim.

  218. Baron – 22:17

    Quite likely 🙂

    Trump: The Left Just Lost The War On Climate Change

  219. L.C. @ 15:03

    Comey misjudged the whole thing, L.C. He should have stuck with one side or the other, now both the Clinton woman’s camp, and the Donald’s will be after his head.

    The former for losing the election for them (wrong, of course), the latter for not appointing a special prosecutor (right they are on this, he should have, the Hon Muslim could have pardoned her now, as he must, her appearing before a judge is too risky for him).

  220. RobertRetyred @ 22:55

    Trump’s tweet is wrong on the Chinese as the designers of the AGW, right on the decision to scrap the deal, Robert.

    We should adapt to any climatic changes nature throws at us, not try to stop them. Isn’t it what Darwin suggested, only those species that can accommodate to changing environment survive?

  221. Baron – 22:21 🙂

    1. Do you think NF would more likely become an MP if he was the party leader?

    2. Do you think NF, as an MP, would be more effective if he was the leader, or not? (Sometimes batsmen, ‘uncaptained’, become better batsmen. 🙂 )

    3. If NF was an MP, but not the leader, do you think the leader would have even more problems with unruly MPs?

    4. Do you think that NF would be more effective at encouraging an ‘Allexit’ as a Westminster MP, given that he would have plenty of constituency work to do?

  222. Baron – 23:01
    I agree.

    Baron – 22:56
    I read that, by not progressing, the woman cannot be pardoned as there needs to be a pardonable act to be in existence.

  223. Not another one! 🙂

    Zimbabwe dictator Robert Mugabe close to death – and ‘crooked’ wife Grace ‘to take over’

  224. Colonel Mustard @ 10:29

    It’s amazing, Colonel, that anyone could blame the Donald for the divisions in the American society because of his campaign for it implies that before Trump jumped on the election bandwagon America was at peace with itself, there was no rapture of societal cohesiveness, everyone was happy with everything and everyone else.

    That’s bollocks. If anyone were to be blame for the disintegration of the American society, it’s the honorary Muslim, it was under his leadership that the country split along racial, educational, financial lines far more than ever before, and he fuelled it by often backing the ones who engineered the split e.g. the “Black Lives Matter’ nutters.

  225. RobertRetyred @ 23:04

    Affirmative on all four counts, Robert.

    His constituents wouldn’t have to suffer, being an MP would furnish him with greater respect cum power, it isn’t that he would have to be involved in any nitty gritty work on Allexit, all he would have to do is send the right signals, do a visit as an MP, make few speeches here and there, that would be enough.

    Look at the disarray amongst in the Brussels pigeon loft after Trump’s victory. Why? Aren’t the Western countries sovereign, their leaders self standing representatives of the respecive unwashed? Of course they aren’t. They got used to getting signals from the White House, the signalman has changed, they are at their wit’s end, know not what to do.

    You may well ask what that has to do with Nigel, being an MP, directing the Allexit process. Well, the same would apply here, he would be the ideological leader, someone who’s earned respect for Brexit, a figurehead, but with the added endorsement of an electorate.

  226. Noa @ 08:32

    It’s such a pity she no longer has an MSM platform from which to pummel the progressives, Noa.

    A thought for you.

    If some of those writers who attract the approval of the anti-progressives e.g. Melanie, Rod, Douglas, Mark, few others were to bunch together, create an internet paper, ignore the news, just do the commentary on news, regularly invite others of similar worldview, it would be but a massive success, the barbarian would gladly pay a subscription, as would others. They could expand it, do what Alex, the shouting caveman does, beam a TV signal to people’s gadgets ….

    We have Breitbart, the pieces by all of the above, but the former goes for quantity, quality of analysis suffers somewhat, and the latter is scattered in many rags one wouldn’t touch if it were not for one or two writers in them.

  227. RobertRetyred @ 23:13

    You reckon, Robert, it will be a peaceful transition, do you?

  228. Reince Priebus Confirmed As Trump’s Chief Of Staff; Bannon Becomes Chief Strategist (Zero Hedge)

    “Keep your friends close and your enemies closer”?

  229. My computer – or a globalist algorithm, doesn’t seem to like references to inforwars…

  230. This looks quite fascinating –

    Several questions –

    1. Will Bulgaria decide to actually leave the EU?

    2. How long will it take Bulgaria to give notice under Article 50 and complete the process?

    3. Is there going to be a race between Britain and Bulgaria to be the first out?

    Any bets?

  231. Herbert Thornton @ 00:03

    Fascinating may not be the right word for it, Herbert,

    The Hon Muslim still has several weeks to act, he may engineer a Maidan, show the plebeians in Bulgaria (and elsewhere) how ‘neocon democracy’ works.

    Baron doubts Bulgaria will quit the EU, it’s money in their pocket, why say no to it. If the EU could live with Orban in Hungary, they’ll live with Radev in Bulgaria, try convert him.

  232. Have the rulers of Austria shot themselves in the foot instigating a 2nd Presidential election after narrowly losing the first one and putting back the date of the 2nd one to December: (now the results from Britain and the USA are known). Currently the Freedom Party candidate is leading 52 to 48.

    Moldova is expected to elect a pro-Russian President ; and the Estonian PM has been voted down and
    is expected to be replaced by a pro-Russian party.

  233. Barron Trump ( aged 12 ) to be first boy in the White House since John (Jnr) in 1960.

    Surprized Mr. Trump isn’t accused of child abuse keeping him up to gone 3am on election night.

  234. Baron @00:22

    I certainly agree that the money in Bulgaria’s pocket will be hard to give up.

    But have the Lame Duck and the EU enough time left to organise a Maidan? I find it hard to imagine that the E.U. could expect any cooperation from Trump.

    I don’t agree with the message that I assume the creator of this picture intended, but in the current circumstances it nonetheless strikes me as rather amuising –

  235. Stefan Molineux and Roger Stone tonight – a little behind the news, but interesting for that reason:

    What’s with the hat and shades Roger?

  236. Frank P @ !:54

    I wear the same gear myself when I have a hang-over.

  237. Herbert Thornton @ 01:53

    The Americans, largely for a historic reason, are in love with guns, they think they can rely on them in case of an existential threat to their freedoms, but the high ownership of the thing results in many death. That’s the price they’re ready to pay for it.

    The Russians, mostly for a reason of history, too, (they’ve have never tasted anything different) love their Tzars, believe that a good one is the best guarantee of their safety in a nasty world. This belief necessities a high degree of centralised power. It is the price they’re willing to pay.

    Most of us live neither in the Republic n or in Russia, Herbert. provided that these two tribes let us do what we want, it should be none of our business that the Yanks have guns, the Russia a Tzar.

    Btw, he looks quite OK with that hat, reminds Baron of one of the Bonds. The analogy is right in the sense of the mechanics of power, wrong in the substance of it, as the barbarian pointed out. The risk the Russians are running is the substance could change easier than the mechanics.

  238. There is a lot in this essay about Mr. Trump and the Swamp creatures that I hope Robert Steele has wrong.

  239. Baron

    “The Americans, largely for a historic reason, are in love with guns, they think they can rely on them in case of an existential threat to their freedoms, but the high ownership of the thing results in many death. That’s the price they’re ready to pay for it.”

    Apart from the mealy-mouthed “they think…but” construction, this has often been said about Americans and the motor car.

    TRUMP Won Both Popular (62.9M-62.2M) And Electoral College Votes (306-232) …
    Hey, Scrap Your Loony Petition Now!

  241. RobertRetyred – 17:19

    Sorry, it wasn’t quite! But even now I am not sure!

  242. InfoWars latest:
    Trump Delivers: Kills TPP, Moves Against Carbon Taxes, MSM Now Giant Joke

  243. RobertRetyred – 17:19
    RobertRetyred – 17:27
    At last:
    Trump (290) 47.3% votes 60,367,273
    Clinton (232) 47.8% votes 61,035,189

  244. Both are leaders of ‘borderless countries’:

    Obama’s parting insult to UK: Outgoing leader calls Merkel ‘closest ally’ and slams Brexit

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