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Baron March 23rd, 2014 – 16:19
“On nights the moon is out, and no winds, Baron goes often for a walk.”
Is this a Slav thing, Baron? One of neighbours is vaguely “Balkan” and he is prone to do the same. Before I retire each night I always check around outside (cars, garage door etc.) and on such nights I often see him on his way out. Suffolk and Surrey are a long way from Transylvania, Baron, but would you and he do this “back home”, given the some of the folklore? 😯
Malfleur, March 24th, 2014 – 00:16
& Anne Wotana Kaye 1, March 24th, 2014 – 02:21
Thank you for that link, Malfleur. I note that, as usual with all medication for doctors, Dr Gairaj was prescribed the “good stuff” (i.e. Atorvastatin) from the very start, whilst the plebs have to make do with ”cheap as chips” Simvastatin. Atorvastatin used to be much, much more expensive and I only got switched after I provided the evidence to my GP that the price had fallen and that it was now comparable to the “cheap” tablet. For anybody considering going down the statin / beta blocker road on the advice of their GP then ask a second opinion. My personal experience of being on this junk for the last five years is that whilst my BP, HDLs/LDLs etc, have all been, for the most part, “tickety-boo” the downside has been feeling totally crap most of the time.
Anne Wotana Kaye 1
March 24th, 2014 – 09:00
“A woman left scarred when her friend attacked her with acid accuses Scotland Yard of incompetence, saying they initially claimed she had done it to herself.
(ON BBC News web)
We should not be surprised by this Scotland Yard inaction. It is not incompetence, but rather the disinclination to investigate and prosecute anybody wearing the obscene dress of a moslem female. The criminal was not a moslem, but just the fact that she was clad as one gave her protection in this mad country.
I see that Doreen Lawrence is one of the new faces of M&S women’s clothes. Is there no way of avoiding the woman?
Peter.
There is one vey good way of avoiding the woman, do not shop at M&S and e-mail them as to the reason why. If enough people do this, then the Madonna of the race relations industry will be forced to rely on harassing the Met every time her cheap resentments need a going over with Brasso.
I don’t recall whether the much maligned Kemal Ataturk ever needed to be as determined as this in Turkey, but the current Egyptian government seems to be getting a good deal more serious than is Britain about the problems caused by Islam.
I wonder if David Cameron will send them a protest and tell us that Britain has a duty to welcome Muslim Brotherhood refugees?
http://ca.reuters.com/article/topNews/idCABREA2N0BT20140324
Peter from Maidstone
March 24th, 2014 – 12:53
stephen maybery
March 24th, 2014 – 13:01
I find both your postings unworthy of you. I truly believed better of both of you, and will not comment further on this unhappy subject.
Peter From Maidstone @12:53
Let us all fervently pray that she’s not their new Lingerie model.
😯
EC @ 08:15
No idea whether walking at night is a slavonic thing, when Baron was very young, he used to go skiing at night, enjoyed it.
In the village, those who know of Baron’s nocturnal habit think he’s an eccentric (as was the villager, an Eton boy and Cambridge graduate, who used to join him before cancer tied him down). A chap called Roger Deakon (one of the original founders of the Friends of Earth, now dead, he, not the outfit) used to do the same, only naked, he also swam in every hole that had water in it, didn’t have a front door in his house, animals could sneak in and out, and did. Now, this Baron calls being eccentric.
Anne, Stephen Lawrence was brutally murdered almost twenty one years ago, it was an unprovoked senseless crime and is to be deeply regretted and his mother father and family should and do have the deepest sympathy of all people of good will.
However certain things pertaining to this dastard crime are a little disturbing, such as the fact that the photograph always shown of Stephen, had been unnecessarily cropped so as to not show his black power clench-fisted right arm salute, had this been shown from the outset this might have clouded the opinion encouraged by the media that this unfortunate young man was a paragon of virtue.
That his parents; especially his mother have fought for justice all these years is to be much admired and commended, what is not to be admired is the fact that the liberal elite have raised her stature to almost saint like status, including her in the Olympic Ceremony and giving her a seat in the House of Lords has only confirmed that as a nation they think that we must all bear the guilt for his death.
We should not.
Compare this with the attention given to a far more brutal murder that of father of three Pc Keith Blakelock, six years prior to the death of Stephen, his family are still awaiting justice to this day and non-have been honoured in any way, nor should they have been and nor should Stephen’s mother.
Anne, we may all condemn senseless violence. A young black girl has been killed by young black boys playing with loaded guns just yesterday. But the elevation of Mrs Lawrence to secular sainthood is an entirely deliberate political strategy in which she has become complicit. Is there a single white woman, a white mother, who has been granted such singular access to the corridors of power due to her white son being killed in a racist attack by black youths? I can think of none, and yet racist violence by Black and Asian youths is much more widespread than that perpetrated by white youths.
David Ossitt
March 24th, 2014 – 17:10
David, I cannot criticise what you write. We are of the same opinion. What hurts me is the way people, who should and do know better, mock this poor mother. She is a victim of the ‘liberal elite’ and is being used by these evil bastards. The wretched woman never asked for honours, they were rammed down her throat! She has not only lost a son, but her marriage broke down, and she is a lost soul. She is not thought a saint any more among the black community than among the white. M&S are lousy business people if they think she will be a good icon for their rubbishy Made in China fashions. So what if Lawrence showed a black clenched fist? It is normal for teenagers to flex their muscles and behave with bravado. Again, the Loony Left choose to show him as a paragon of virtue. They are so filled with self-hate,and probably conscious of their inferiority, that they must create ‘gods’. I feel we all need a good dose of Judo-Christian charity and love for our fellows and stop mocking and being cruel yo a bereaved mother. Concerning P.C. Blakelock, I agree with you, David, but perhaps a little less English stiff-upper lip and a lot more ire would serve this man’s memory better.
AWK1 24th, – 17:29
“She is a victim of the ‘liberal elite’ and is being used by these evil bastards.”
That the ‘liberal elite’ are evil bastards I agree. But as for victimhood, I doubt it…she’s as capable of saying “No.” as any of the rest of us, whether it be to the Labour hierarchy or Marks and Sparks. I reckon she’s lovin’ it!
Peter from Maidstone
March 24th, 2014 – 17:26
Peter, of course there is not a single white mother “who has been granted such singular access to the corridors of power due to her white son being killed in a racist attack by black youths?” Your question earns a resounding NO! The Liberal Elite who control the three main parties would never accord it to someone who they felt they could not patronise. I may be wrong, I do not know Doreen Lawrence, but I imagine in her grief and bitterness, she will be complicit without really considering and realising that she is being used as a tool.
Lady Doreen Lawrence OBE and M&S;the DT soon closed comments on this.But see
http://www.marksandspencer.com/s/britains-leading-ladies/doreen-lawrence#doreen
http://blogs.spectator.co.uk/melanie-mcdonagh/2014/03/the-burning-of-the-innocents/
The exponential increase in abortions could well lead to foetuses being compressed, dehydrated and sold on garage forecourts as brickettes for the hearth, as a source of income for the NHS.
OTOH, seems the coming generations are learning to speak for themselves and are fighting back:
http://americandigest.org/mt-archives/driveby/guilty_but_with_an_explan.php
Radford NG (21:08)
Something tells me that M & S are going to regret using that bevy of ballbreakers to advertise their woolies, knickers and accessories.
Next….!!
http://www.infowars.com/homeland-security-exercise-targets-free-americans-against-socialist-tyranny/
“Leaked documents reveal plan to counter online dissent during martial law.” [h/t Drudge Report]
Martial law in the exercise is declared pursuant to an earthquake in Alaska…
The view that Alex Jones spouts the same same old (throughout his twenty years’ of broadcasting presumably) is just not true. The only explanation I can fathom for this view is that it is the lazy man’s excuse for not doing his homework.
A thought on the lost aeroplane: Despite having endured the product for many years, I still cannot reconcile the sticking of cameras into the faces of the grieving with any kind of civilised or responsible journalism. I am sure there is an argument for it, as for instance that it helps raise funds for the afflicted.
Malfleur
March 24th, 2014 – 22:55
Malfleur, you are so right. At least the garage-florists and teddy bear shops wont be having a field day as a result of this horrible tragedy.
Just saw the ‘Chipmunk’ on ‘Newsnight’ with Paxman…crikey, listening to that woman still feels like being battered by a hailstorm!
Mind, picking what I could out of her burble, I have to concede, she’s loyal. It’s gonna be such a disappointment to her when she grows up and realises it was to the wrong things.
I have to accept the fact that the 777 went down in the way we are being told, but I cannot understand how nothing at all has been found that can be identified directly to the plane.
Planes have many parts that will float on them now as planes are made lighter for fuel efficiency .
There must be a debri stream spreading from the point of impact, obviously the tides will have taken it a long way by now but it should still be together although spreading .
I know it’s a vast area but with all the searching planes and ships etc, I am puzzled not one item has been found.
Radford NG, March 24th, 2014 – 20:15
The Zombie Apocalypse is nigh!
Frank P, March 24th, 2014 – 21:08
Brilliant! I think, loosely translated, she was cautioning her Dad about the dangers of associating with football hooligans, and also the inadvisability of committing mortgage fraud.
“I have to accept the fact that the 777 went down in the way we are being told..”
Not without any evidence, you don’t.
E C 07.55.
Exactly .
My tongue was firmly in my cheek.
Does anybody else feel great unease that, as soon as ‘they’ could make a stand-up argument that MH370 had gone down in the most inaccessible, inhospitable place on the planet, every nation signed up to the story, even though not a single shred of evidence has been found?
MH370 is in NE Pakistan. What they plan to do with it is beyond me, but it sure as hell ain’t in the South Atlantic.
My personal opinion is that it will reappear, loaded with HE or possibly even one of Paki-lands nuclear warheads and closely follow a legitimate airliner into their target of choice. Commercial airliners have no rear view mirror, no proximity radar to the rear and, if close enough, MH370 would not show up on ground radar until far too late, masked by the legitimate flight.
And why would the western nations, Malaysia and China all collude? They are never going to admit that, despite all their security, Islam has managed to steal a complete airliner and make it disappear. Even Paul Daniels wasn’t that good!
Clear Memories March 25th, 2014 – 09:02
“Even Paul Daniels wasn’t that good!”
In his prime, oh yes he was.
John birch 25th, – 06:43
Planes have many parts that will float on them now as planes are made lighter for fuel efficiency .
Perhaps…but the only part of AF447 that floated was the fin. I think, depending on the nature of the impact, pancake or clean nosedive, the thing mightn’t start to break up until water pressure got too high, at which point the windows could implode and everything sink in a contained package.
I’m still very ‘iffy’ about the electronic signal ‘evidence’ quoted last night…could be that, once it gave an answer that fitted with other theories, they accorded it a value far higher than it deserved.
Even the best science suffers from that. 🙁
A friend of mine was CEO of an airline and I asked him where he thought the plane was. Pakistan! he answered without hesitation.
FREEDOM IN THE CITY: UNDERSTANDING PUTIN’S RUSSIA
As part of The Freedom Association’s Freedom in the City series, Alexander Boot will be discussing his latest book, How The Future Worked: Russia Through the Eyes of a Young Non-Person.
Alexander Boot was born in Russia and educated at Moscow University. He lectured on English literature, wrote art and film criticism, and made a nuisance of himself with the Russian authorities. Pursued by the KGB, he emigrated to the USA in 1973, and then in 1988 to the UK. Following a career in business, alongside his writing, Alexander Boot dedicated himself to writing from 2005 and is the author of books such as How the West Was Lost (2006), God and Man According to Tolstoy (2009), The Crisis Behind Our Crisis (2011), and the co-author of The Nation That Forgot God (2010).
The Freedom in the City event is free to attend and will be taking place at The Counting House, 50 Cornhill, London, EC3V 3PD in the Griffin Room – on Wednesday 26th March, starting at 12:45pm.
David Ossitt @09:42
“In his prime, oh yes he was.”
He still is! A very clever bloke. I saw his one man show “An Evening With Paul Daniels” a few years ago. He was very good – highly entertaining. Amongst all his other material he did a mass hypnosis job on the whole audience – very impressive – you had to be there at the end! Not only that, I had a chat with “The Lovely Debbie McGee” in the bar before the show. She’s a very pleasant woman, and still very lovely! (M&S please take note 🙂 )
So, Dave, the angel of truth and probity is promising to raise the inheritance tax threshold. Now where have we heard that before? and if you are daft enough to believe that you will also believe his promise to hold a referendum on the EU. If the shyster was serious about raising the threshold then why no mention in the budget?
Clear Memories et al –
Like you I too am very suspicious – and am made even more so by the Malaysian Prime Minister’s obvious eagerness to announce that the airliner had crashed into the ocean.
The evidence of still very flimsy and it will take clear proof before it can be concluded that whatever may be found floating really is part of that aircraft.
Very plausible theories have been advanced that the airliner was hijacked in a very sophisticated way. For any organisation that has level of sophistication, it would have been comparatively simple to dump various pieces of aircraft scrap into that part of the South Indian Ocean in order to divert attention from what really happened.
Herbert Thornton@March 25th, 2014 – 11:26
no need to dump anything. our oceans are full of rubbish, including 410 foot sea containers, bits of boats etc.
they say there are 27 foot waves in the southern ocean at this time of year, and they will get to be 3 times that size as winter approaches.
If the airliner is there they wont find it. How very convenient if its somewhere else?
But it does raise questions as to why airliners are not fitted with radio beacons that cant be turned off from inside the plane.
Monday: Alex Jones rallies the troops!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ia23eUcVHeA
looking forward to tomorrows Bootfest. Baron has identified himself and so will I. Just think of the Wild Man Of Borneo and you will be spot on.
Alexsandr 25th, – 12:19
“why airliners are not fitted with radio beacons that can’t be turned off from inside the plane.”
Come to that, why aren’t the ‘black (orange) boxes contained within a specifically designed recess in the fuselage accessible from the outside and which automatically releases one of them upon submersion to transmit its position an record its movements between release from the fuselage and its retrieval? It’s not beyond the wit of man.
In this context, although much tardier that airliners, and much easier to arrange, the ‘orange boxes’ being fitted on new merchant ships are mounted in a ‘float free’ position on the deck above the bridge.
Peter f. M.
Baron
stephen maybery
Have the idea you all look some what disreputable:baron an older version of the young `currency traders`in leather jackets that used to hang out around the hotels in Moscow.
I have thought that to be reconized you could wear a primrose;although I don’t know where you would get one.
“O come ye Tories,all unite
To wear the Primrose badge with might;
and work and hope and strive and fight,
And pray may God defend the Right.”
from `Larkrise to Carlingford`
The primrose was said to be Disraeli’s favourite flower.After his death`The Primrose League` was created to promote grass-roots Conservatism amongst the working-classes…..and was very popular. (Within recent memory a third of trade union members were Conservatives.)
More can be found by looking-up * primrose league *.
Radford, what about refounding the Primrose League? Anyone up for it?
Peter from Maidstone March 25th, 2014 – 16:10
“what about refounding the Primrose League? Anyone up for it?”
Peter has a point, below is a snippet from the Wikipedia first page.
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopaedia.
The Primrose League was an organisation for spreading Conservative principles in Great Britain. It was founded in 1883 and active until the mid-1990s. It was finally wound up in December 2004.
At a late point in its existence, its declared aims (published in the Primrose League Gazette, vol.83, no.2, March/April 1979) were:
1.To Uphold and support God, Queen, and Country, and the Conservative cause;
2.To provide an effective voice to represent the interests of our members and to bring the experience of the Leaders to bear on the conduct of public affairs for the common good;
3.To encourage and help our members to improve their professional competence as leaders;
4.To fight for free enterprise.
Re the recent airline disaster, it is to be hoped that proof positive can soon be found in the Indian Ocean.
If not this case will attract conspiracy theorists the world over.
I for one think it is in Pakistan.
David Ossitt
March 25th, 2014 – 17:56
David, anything and everything is possible. I think the pilots may have been innocent victims who had among the passengers, a terrorist or terrorists who were preparing to blow up the plane. To spare innocent victims on land, they flew the plane to the ocean and crashed it. Actually I do not like thinking like this as it is so terrible.
Anne Wotana Kaye 1 March 25th, 2014 – 18:02
“David, anything and everything is possible.”
Anne, there has been this American General who has been claiming for days that the aircraft is in Pakistan, he hints at having knowledge that he can not divulge.
Would it not be wonderful, if all were alive?
What was the largest political movement in Britain,ever?
In 1910 when the electorate was 7-7million the membership of the Primrose League was 2 million.
It was formed by Lord Randolph Churchill:his wife Jennie Jerome demanded women have equal membership;their son,Winston,made his first speech to the League in 1897.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/comment/columnists/charlesmoore/7983677/A-vast-loyal-band-of-working-class-Conservatives.html
Anne Wotana Kaye 1 @ 18:02
Has anyone explained why the pictures that capture the two young men travelling on false passports on the ill fate flight were identically dressed waist down?
Radford, sir, the primrose, the original one is yellow, the colour of hate, well, at least what the folklore in the lands of the Slavs would have it, one must never buy yellow flowers to the one one’s courting.
Still, if Baron can get hold of Marie Curie little yellow flower he’ll wear it tomorrow. The leather jacket though may be a better ID, Baron reckons nobody else will wear one, it was the reason the barbarian decided on it (he also has a jacket or two, but everyone will wear one, the English wouldn’t be seen in anything but a jacket preferably one that’s worn and with elbow patches). Bron’s the biker style, but quite in vogue, he believes (and bloody costly), it was a gift for Baron’s birthday some years back to wear on his bike, but it’s too good for collecting flies and things that one hits biking, the colour is dark brown, Peter and stephen note, please.
As it happens, the barbarian spent the whole day assisting a crew of tree fellers (clearing the mess left by the recent weather), he’ll be half dead, but then listening should be quite easy.
David Ossitt
March 25th, 2014 – 19:16
And I thought I had a wild imagination! Right, in for a penny in for a pound. My wildest dream would be a sort of James Hiltonian, Lost Horizon, Shangri-La. If dreams were wishes……
Baron
March 25th, 2014 – 20:41
You too,Baron?
Baron, too, what. Anne?
Yes, he thinks the plane has landed somewhere, and somebody knows where.
Baron
March 25th, 2014 – 21:44
Sadly I return to earth, and realise we are clutching at straws, desperately wanting those people to be still alive. I do, however, share your suspicions.
I see that a several of us are speculating that the missing airliner may have landed somewhere and that this creates hope that the passengers are alive.
To me, any such hope seems impossible. If the airliner has been safely landed somewhere, the only ones now alive are the hijackers. Everyone else who was on board will have been murdered.
Baron, March 25th, 2014 – 21:44
“Baron, too, what. Anne?
Yes, he thinks the plane has landed somewhere, and somebody knows where.”
U2s, Baron! It beggars belief, given the nuclear dimension, that the Septics do not have Pakistan and Iran fully covered by spy planes, drones and satellites on a 24/365 basis.
They know, but don’t hold your breath. I seem to remember that the community organiser from Chicago only discovered Bin Laden’s whereabouts when he was tanking in the polls and with the ‘mid-term’ elections fast approaching.
25th March: Mark Steyn interview on “Radio Free Delingpole” (Broadcasting from occupied Europe)
http://ricochet.com/podcasts/mark-steyn/
Interview starts at approx’ 29mins in.
h/t Pat Condell (@patcondell)
“Islamic lunatic explains child marriage on TV. The girl’s statement at the end should be broadcast around the world.”
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lXespwyiefY
and here,previously, she disowns her parents:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-J7_TKgw1To
O(o) – 09:50, yesterday
“…could be that, once it gave an answer that fitted with other theories, they accorded it a value far higher than it deserved.
Even the best science suffers from that.”
I might happen in ‘Climate Science’, and be well rewarded, but it isn’t Science at all!
RobertC 26th, – 10:02
“but it isn’t Science at all!”
I agree, Robert, but it isn’t only climate science; take the ‘big bang’…that superseded the ‘steady state’ and ‘modified steady state’ theories propounded by Fred Hoyle et al. Assuming the BB is correct, what possessed such an august body of physicists/astrophicisists to hang on to the SS theory for so long, even producing the MSS theory when observational evidence was showing their theory was untenable. I’m just a mere schoolboy compared with these blokes, but I still doubt that enough evidence has been collected to unequivocally state that ‘expansion’ has been ‘proved’. It’s simply the best theory that fits the evidence we have, even although that evidence has itself been observed ‘through a glass, darkly’.
Alex Jones considers the deliberate exploding of a nuclear bomb by those controlling the American government in a United States city as a false flag to justify the imposition of martial law and a strike against Iran or Russia; and in the context of the developing militarisation of the security forces in the USA looks at the murder of an unarmed homeless man who had been sleeping in the desert, recorded on video by the New Mexico police.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3t_3dTEKVzM
Do I detect a passivity, a complacency, a cognitive dissonance in Wallsters who do not want to watch and debate these matters?
This link is only the first hour of Tuesday’s show. It will not therefore be necessary to miss watching grown men running around in shorts after a ball.
Do we think that we are going to escape by ignoring what is slouching towards Bethlehem?
O(o) – 11:30 ‘BBT’
Part of the ‘hanging on’ could be due to not having a better theory!
The Big Bang theory is not internally consistent, and we don’t know enough to think of anything better, yet! Quantum Mechanics, Relativity are only fragments of reality and I would say String Theory is the one Scientific idea that has become politicised, as it has yet to come up with any prediction that can be verified [wiki] “using any technology that is likely to be feasible within our lifetimes”.
Scientists can spend millions of pounds on astronomy or CERN (though I think there should be ‘a Pause(R)’ after such an expensive recent upgrade!), as it is for research. Science has also been very good at creating a more comfortable world for us. However, spending hundreds of billions of pounds on windmills (spinning crucifixes that kill birds) and solar power installations (that fry birds to death) to support a political scam is theft and is a different kettle of fish altogether.
I rather like the story in Genesis, as it only involves some Arithmetic and not the other Mathematical sub-disciplines!
O (o) at 1130am
I heard that Fred Hoyle contemptuously invented the term `Big Bang`;and refused to accept it ,being an atheist,as it sounded to much like an act of creation.
Does anyone have any ideas (after three months of seeking for myself) how I can get on a one way liner with a small cabin from the US/Mexican east coast to Britain? The flight is way too long, including stopovers, and I have travelled too much to willingly do it again. I have three cats who will be accompaning and would like to share a cage they can walk around in and stretch out in.
I am not looking or luxury or adventure. Just a safe trip home.
All help most gratefully received.
Verity
Sign on as a stewardess on a merchant ship for a one way trip. Work your passage – so to speak. I’m sure an accommodating skipper would welcome the service of a trio of moggies, too. Rats are always a problem and I’m sure you have enough nous to smuggle them off when you disembark. If you play your cards right with the Captain he might drop you off on a nocturnal dinghy sortis to avoid embarrassment. Once landed the world is your oyster. I’m sure O(o) knows a thing or two about getting visitors on and off ocean-going merchant vessels, particularly those of the fairer sex, with three pussies as a bonus.
Something light for a change! Is anybody else as sick as I am of the current inane use of the expression “WOW”? Adults of normal appearance sound like sick cats as they Wow their way through TV programmes.
Verity, you can take passage on many merchant vessels as a passenger. Take a look at this site and see the routes.
http://www.cruisepeople.co.uk/transat.htm
Lor’ bless the European Union. Lor’ bless Mr Barroso and Mr Rumpy Pumpy, not arf!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qEPFKy8Yqm0
Andy Car Park March 26th, 2014 – 16:28
“Lor’ bless the European Union. Lor’ bless Mr Barroso and Mr Rumpy Pumpy, not arf!”
Do you think that these children are in safe hands?
A terrible mudslide in Washington State has brought out the best of humanity.
While on the other side of USA, in Washington DC , a tsunami of bullshit has just gushed from the upper orifice of the adolescent POTUS.
Unadulterated, grandiose, empty, rhetoric. Amp!ified noise from an empty barrel, in stereophonic teleprompter Chicagoan semi-hysteria.
Whaddabout Benghazi? Whaddabout Syria? Whaddabout Egypt?
Fuck off, you mendacious pissant!
Correction – it originated from his puppeteers in Washington, but was delivered by their shill in Brussels. Which makes it even worse!
Farage debates Clegg this evening at 7 pm on LBC.To listern outside London see
http://www.lbc.co.uk/listern-to-lbc-3576
Radford NG
The debate is live on Sky News – the eyes are important as the ears in assessing this dog ‘n’ pony show. 🙂
I enjoyed listening to Alex Boot speak at the Freedom Association meeting this lunchtime, and was especially pleased to meet EC and Baron in person.
The Counting House seemed a very good venue for a potential Evening with… Alex Boot.
Some idiot 12 year old on SKY is saying that Farage will be emotional and Clegg will present the factual case.
Clegg and Farage go live on link below in 3 minuets.
http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/2014/03/25/nigel-farage-nick-clegg-debate-video-live_n_5029366.html
http://www.thetimes.co.uk/tto/news/politics/article4044976.ece
“Milliband is not fit for No. 10 Downing Street according to most voters” reports “The Times”. I suggest he is eminently suitable, if one considers all the previous post-war residents of this house. Only Churchill and Thatcher were worthy of the title Prime Minister, and before, hopefully Farage moves in, the building should be fumigated and an efficient rodent destruction company employed to remove all traces of the slime left by the last resident.
David Ossitt
March 26th, 2014 – 18:57
Clegg is being squashed by Farage at this moment on LBC.
Peter from Maidstone @ 18:54
The same feeling here, Peter, good stuff, stimulating listening, lively audience except for the chair who may have fitted well a uniform designed by Hugo Boss, and not primarily because he shut up the barbarian, but because he prevented Mr. Boot to answer two quite legitimate questions. Fighting for the freedom of expression? Hmmm
EC, it truly was a pleasure to meet you, take it easy with both ‘projects’, and do try to have a walk as often as poss.
The EU spent almost 400m Euro on Ukraine between 2011-2013. The most tangible result of the expenditure was the loss of Crimea to Russia. Well done EU.
http://www.breitbart.com/Breitbart-London/2014/03/14/Proof-that-the-EU-meddled-in-Ukraine
I enjoyed the debate between Clegg and Farage. I thought Farage easily won. Everything Clegg said was a lie, misrepresentation or avoidance of the question.
I see that there’s a posting (March 26th, 2014 – 12:22) from somebody describing himself as –
“Malfleu”
The style of writing doesn’t sound at all like the usual Malfleur. Is it that pest Telemachus?
The debate was disappointing. Neither politician could address the two issues that are obvious to all patriots of all European countries: that the EU is a leftist gravy train, costing taxpayers billions for no good purpose. As both are on the gravy train, that was never going to be discussed. The other issue that was hardly discussed was the ceding of sovereignty to a largely unelected bureaucratic leviathan which is currently complicit in the global ‘climate change’ scam, aided and abetted by ‘scientists’ who are themselves riding on yet another gravy train.
The You Gov vote was skewed by political vested interest by both major parties and therefore pretty worthless.
But at least it raised Farage as a real mover and shaker and he should be able to build on it.
It is doubtful that we will ever get a referendum, because leaching of Tory votes to UKIP will mean that the Marxist spawn will be PM after the next General Election and the ‘Labour Party’ will not hold a referendum. I doubt Farage will stay in politics long enough to put a viable party together. There is no other obvious leader to succeed him.
The best point Farage made was his last one about The EU leading the Ukraine up the garden path and then leaving it to the mercy of Vlad. The West in General and the EU in particular most certainly have blood on their hands by default. But Farage will be savaged by the MSM for saying it.
Baron (19:35)
Your link tends to prove my final point about the debate.
The pig-faced Adam Boulton of Sky News disagrees.
There were a lot of suits at the Freedom Association do in The Counting House this afternoon. Interesting that the CHW contingent embodied the true spirit of the organisation by not wearing suits! Mr Boot gave us an interesting insight into Russian society and his upbringing therein. He also gave us an interesting discourse on the life and works of Mr. Putin. I didn’t feel that Mr. Boot was all that at home with a largish audience but his muscular wingman, Peter Mullen, certainly kept a very firm grip on proceedings – far too brusque than the occasion actually required. I’d love to see him chair an episode of QT – most of the panel and any dissenters in audience would be in therapy for weeks!
After the even event someone said, “Did you enjoy that?” I looked up, blinked, and said “Fraser?” After my double take I realised that it was young Rory, one of the organisers. What can I say? Fraser Nelson must have cloned himself and created a “mini-me”.
Herbert Thornton
Not my usual self at the moment, Herbert. I am alarmed that more people are not alarmed.
Here is Paul Craig Roberts, a former US Treasury Department official in the Regan administration, on the Ukraine crisis:
“… Putin has been very low key. He’s been very diplomatic. He sits there and watches this and he says:
“What are these Americans up to? Here they bring a direct strategic threat to Russia, right here in my backyard. They are trying to put Ukraine in Nato so they can put missile bases on the Russian border with Ukraine. They tried to grab Russia’s only warm-water naval base, the port we’ve had since Catherine the Great in the 18th century. Why are they doing this? Why these amazing provocations against Russia?” … So that’s what the idiots in Washington have brought about. They’ve convinced a nuclear power that can wipe the United States off the face of the Earth, and certainly Europe, that they cannot be trusted. ”
http://kingworldnews.com/kingworldnews/KWN_DailyWeb/Entries/2014/3/26_Paul_Craig_Roberts_-_The_Greatest_Crisis_In_Mankinds_History.html
I am waiting for the US military to honour it oath to defend the constitution from enemies foreign and domestic and arrest Obama and leading members of the regime in Washington DC for treason.
The perception that this is necessary makes me a little antsy, Herbert,and this translates into my writing – but meanwhile,as background, I am reading The Corruption Chronicles by Tom Fitton of Judicial Watch, which provides further candidates for arrest by the liberating American army, should it ever re-awake to its duty, including traitor for hire William Jefferson Clinton aka. William Jefferson Blythe III.
Article 3 of the US Constitution appears to have been aimed at limiting the power of the federal government to charge citizens with treason for merely exercising their rights of free speech and assembly. Unfortunately the possibility that the federal government itself might become a treasonous enterprise was beyond the contemplation of the drafters of the Constitution – as it appears to be beyond the contemplation of the current American military.
In England the death penalty for treason was abolished in 1998 by Mr. Blair.
But don’t worry, everything is for the best in the best of all possible worlds.
Baron @19:35, Frank P @22:00
Yes indeed, I agree. One of the most telling things that Nigel Farage said was that the meddling EU “had blood on its hands in the Ukraine.”
I watched the whole thing on Sky News and it didn’t do a lot for my blood pressure. The “moderator” constantly let Clegg talk over Farage talk time. It wasn’t right. Mrs EC asked who the ghastly rodent featured Sky female present was. “Kay Burley”, I replied.
Adam Boulton – The Empress of
BlandingsIsleworth?David Ossitt, thanks for the link to the Farage/Clegg debate which is still available at that link today. I would have otherwise missed it. I hope your shingles have cleared up by the way.
Farage is clearly much the better briefed which I suppose is to be expected, and was most impressive when he invoked an extradition treaty of 1174.
There are some desperados in the audience, both male and female, and I spent some time trying to put CHW names to them.
The debate lasted about an hour. Although Baron will no doubt agree that the two ranters were mouthing the same old thing that we have been hearing for years on the EU, I hope it won’t be wondered at that anyone could spend sixty minutes of his life listening to the two men.
As to principles, the answer to the question “in” or “out, is beyond question, despite the warmest applause being offered for Clegg’s defence of sanctioning by law loving relationships which suggested to me that rationality was not the common property of the audience. What lacks is, as often the case, a mechanism for transmitting the people’s will. But that’s what it’s all about, isn’t it?
News that Kim Jong Un’s hair style may have become generally compulsory in his realm has led to somebody photoshopping the Queen’s hairstyle onto various other people.
One of them was David Cameron.
http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/weird-news/kim-jong-uns-hair-raising-3289266
Does it suit him? I incline to say “yes – very much.”
I see the link doesn’t take you straight to the David Cameron version – to see it, click on Gallery – I think he’s picture No. 4
Why has the DT article on the Farage/Clegg debate not been open to comments?
The DT doesn’t want comments because it is trying to spin that Clegg came across strongest and the reality in comments would puncture this fragile construct.
EC
March 26th, 2014 – 23:22
I’ve been away so didn’t see the advert until about three hours after the event, which was a choker. I happen to work nearby but generally not in a suit. I’ll endeavour to be more vigilant in future. Until recently, Peter Mullen was the rector of some church near Snow Hill and his sermons, which were published online, were a tonic for the soul. Meaning they were so bullish they made Frank P in dyspeptic mode sound like Owen Jones.
BBC Radio 4 Extra are broadcasting `The White Guard` (The Days of the Turbins) by Mikhail Bulgakov,today and tomorrow at 10am and 3pm.
Kiev,1918.The Germans have occupied the city,Petlyura’s [nationist] Socialists are camped outside,while the Bolsheviks watch………
Petlyura’s heirs seem to control Kiev today with the support of the EU and Obama.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b00761h8
When I came out from Alex Boots lecture I passed a youngish woman speaking animatedly in Russian on her mobile. Who was she talking to? Was she the embassy observer?
Well, the ‘Torygraph’ has excelled itself today…four photographs of Diana Dors in the online version (haven’t seen the ‘dead tree’ version yet)!
🙂
Alex was inspiring yesterday, well I suppose it was he as I was not sitting in the front row and I am as blind as a bat. It was great to listen to a man who knows what he was talking about, such a rarity in this day and age. Peter made the suggestion that the Counting House would be a great venue for an evening with Alexander Boot. Bring it on Peter. I’ll start saving for the bus fare. Glad to see that the Wallsters were not suited up, one can always count on us lot to lower the tone of an event.
I missed seeing you Stephen. Why didn’t you come and say hello. I was in the front row.
testing
Peter,
I can be a little diffident when it comes to meeting strangers, however, get this evening with Alex off the ground and I promise not to hold back. I will turn up dressed in my Egyptian galibeyah, drink six pints of Guinness then stand on the table and give a rendition of Cwm Rhondda.
ACP
Oi! Wotchit! Any comparison to that squeaky-voiced, diminutive, mouthy little leftist sheep-shagger. even as a tongue-in-cheek, satirical yardstick device, is deeply resented and could bring on more than an attack of dyspepsia.
Btw, see what you started? A cadre of under-dressed neo-Bootists scurrying around the Square Mile sticking out like bulldogs’ bollix and descending on the Counting House to hear our hero performing in the Nick Griffin Room. I suspect the rest of the audience were either from the Russian Embassy in Kensington Palace Gardens (aka Millionaires’ Row – now more appropriate than ever before); or from Millbank (aka HQ of the WBGTDWI Zipped-up Holdall Escapology Association ). Think yourself lucky you gave it a miss; that would have flagged up yet another entry on your already voluminous docket.
Any Wallsters who have received an email message from me today from Indonesia begging for resources to enable me to return to blighty (as all my possessions have been stolen) will have realised that that it’s a bogey – an attempted scam. My phones haven’t stopped ringing all morning as all my contacts have been alerting me to the invasion of my email list of contacts by a scamster.
A very nice French lady from my email platform has been trying to rectify the fallout and unfortunately has so far failed. I have been promised further attention later, but sadly only in connection with my technological discrepancies. Sad that the intertubes are also a sewage system for the world’s vermin to infest.
Reminds me of that observation from the atheist philosopher, who, when questioning the existence of God, posed the question, “How can anybody believe in a Creator who when designing procreative sexual organs placed the pleasure garden in the middle of a sewage farm?” He perhaps had a point?
Anyone else here been afflicted with this virus and if so how did you cope?
After long and painful reflection I have decided to abandon my lifelong belief that the hokey cokey is what it’s all about.
I used to think that an alternation of in and out reflected the English amateur spirit and that periodically shaking it all about was to be encouraged as a show of devil-may-care insouciance.
But in this dog-eat-dog world, it is sharp elbows and an eye on the main chance that are what it’s all about. Commitment, drive, rugged individualism, and devil take the hindmost. Shaking it all about is for shirtlifters, milquetoasts and candidates for the WBGTDWI Zipped-up Holdall Escapology Association .
Exactly! Yet another delicious aphorism which I can wholeheartedly concur, though not necessarily feel entirely happy about. But then again, WTF is ‘happiness’, even in its partial form? I know you are wise enough not to venture up that alleyway in the dark (or even in full daylight, I would guess).
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tSC3RMstJl8
Here he is, the little toerag.
EC @ 23:44
Baron has notived it, too, EC, amongst the political elite, their ar$elicking commentariat, not an unexpected outbreak of mephitic brown pants, following Farage’s harsh but close to the truth take on things Ukrainian. A joy to see them them squirming.
Andy Car Park @ 08:14
Pity you couldn’t make it, Andy, you would have witnessed the reverse version of Putinism (the bullet in the head not yet an option), the preaching to the converted.
After the strictly controlled lecture, (and after EC left) Mr. Boot, a couple UKIP heavyweights, another two eager debaters stayed on talking. One couldn’t fail to sense the idea of a in-out referendum isn’t as hot as before for two reasons. Unless the hoi polloi say yes, they’ll be asked to think again, and more importantly, what do you do if we do decide to pull out, and pull out.
stephen maybery @ 13:42
Andy Car Park @ 15:44
Re the video clip: stephen could witness what Baron is saying down here, Andy couldn’t.
In the seminar, the one who is so worshipped did say something similar to this deluded young man: “Some 30 journalists have been sent down by Putin, none by Brezhnev. Who is the greater dictator”? Many in the audience laughed heartily, some applauded.
The thing is though not one single journalist under Brezhnev would have dared say anything about him, no editor would have printed it anyway, he, the communist thug, had no opportunity to sent any journalist down, yet millions of the unwashed of whatever rank were still labouring in the Gulags when Brezhnev was in charge.
Under Putin, hundreds if not thousands journalists are opposing Putin, it’s a false argument to say there isn’t any real opposition in Russia.
Baron has copied abit from an independent newspaper that allows commentary, wanted to show it to Mr. Boot. One of the bloggers calls Putin a mini-Fuhrer, some posters agree, some disagree, the moderator says ‘be careful, the comparison is sensitive because of the view of many about the Great Patriotic War…. The point is, the paper is still published, the blog carries on.
Do not read this and think Baron is backing the current Kremlin strongman, he isn’t. He reckons, however, we are weakening our case if we portray Vlad as one identical to the communist thugs. The majority of the Russian unwashed for one reason or another back the man who likes to strip to the waist, the more we hit at him using fake arguments the more likely it is many more will stand by him. That’s a natural reaction everywhere, even more so in Russia.
Frank P @ 13:44
If only the Russian stinkingly rich mafioso were there, Frank, Baron would gladly light their Cuban Habanas for a juicy tip. Come to think of it, wasn’t it what the rich Russian visitors of the old Tsarist days did when the holidayed in the West? Lighting their cigars using high denomination rouble bills?
Forest of Dean LGBT only 781,000 hits on Google. Pisspoor.
stephen maybery @ 13:42
No need to go into all that, stephen, just say hello. Or are you ashamed of the barbarian what with his take on things Russian?
ACP
Forest of Dean LGBT? They wouldn’t know know the would from the tease in them thar parts.
Baron
I strongly recommend that you stop Russian about in Central London, it can lead to terrible habits. Take ACP as an example. On his own admission he has in the past been driven to walking around with a placard inscribed, “What’s buggery got to do with it?!! Which as you must realise, is very disingenuous of him: he knows the answer to that question very well and was just being mischievously provocative. Btw, our hero, Gospidin Boot is at again today over on his relentless blog:
http://alexanderboot.com/content/mi5-recruitment-i%E2%80%99m-quaking-my-boots
Fresh from his adventures in the Halls of Mammon, he’s obviously considering joining either MI Funf (or even Sechs). I’m sure he’d prefer the latter, phonetically speaking. Obviously both could do with his grammatical tuition in English. And as a Russian English teacher, he would know. Who approached whom would you think?
Frank P @ 17:06
Point taken, Frank, what else could the poorly educated Slavonic ectomorph do when one of his gurus commands him to heel, Still, the placard seems rather inviting, what would the reaction of the authorities be today? A slap on the wrist, a send down?
On another topic. Apparently, at the Hague Summit the country bosses were askedd to take part in a nuclear war game, Frau Merkel wasn’t happy about it. Is it they know or plan something, are not telling us, or is it really a game for them?
http://www.deccanchronicle.com/140327/world-europe/article/angela-merkel-miffed-nuclear-war-game
And another titbit from the freer press east of Elbe: Sanctions against the one who loves stripping to the waist were talked about, the Czechs objected, the Frau backed them. Baron reckons the Czechs were just a proxy for the Teutonic lady that now runs the European show.
Something that has puzzled Baron since the issue hit the front pages. Why is it the CPS is after the doctor who performed the FGM, not the parents who must have asked him to do it?
Wouldn’t the signal such a prosecution sends be the wrong one, the cutting moving underground, the young girls suffering even more?
Malfleur @ 23:28
The blue veined barbarian has only now read your posting (he’s catching up), and must say he very much agrees with Roberts, pity men of his calibre have disappeared from the public life.
Now, here’s a man going nuclear, and worth listening to. And it only takes five minutes.
http://www.steynonline.com/6207/going-nuclear
Baron March 27th, 2014 – 17:55
“Now, here’s a man going nuclear”
Superb.
Baron March 27th, 2014 – 17:41
“Something that has puzzled Baron since the issue hit the front pages. Why is it the CPS is after the doctor who performed the FGM, not the parents who must have asked him to do it?”
Baron from what I understand, this woman was due to give birth, sometime in the past she had FGM, in order for the birth to continue normally her bits and pieces would have to be re-opened, the doctor was simply replacing what had been there prior to it all being re-opened.
By the bye I have read somewhere recently that women doctors in the third world are performing surgery to put right the results of FGM, even restoring the clitoris, this is made possible because when the gross cruel act is first performed only the tip is removed leaving the rest within the flesh.
Barbaric bastards all, who perform this gross act.
Baron March 27th, 2014 – 16:24
“The majority of the Russian unwashed for one reason or another back the man who likes to strip to the waist, the more we hit at him using fake arguments the more likely it is many more will stand by him. That’s a natural reaction everywhere, even more so in Russia.”
And so they should, everybody knows whose side he is on, he might well be a bit of a monster but he is their own monster.
UKIP strikes back.
Some of the media,having lost the Farage/Clegg debate have promoted the `shocking claim` from Farage that the EU has blood on its hands over the Ukraine;and Cleggs claim that Farage hates the EU so much that he supports Putin.
This includes James Forsyth at the Spectator:and also The Independent which has more excuse as their owner got caught in a honey-pot sting by the NKVD [what-ever].
Farage has hit back,saying the EU does have blood on its hands over the Ukraine,and if you poke the Russian bear it is bound to respond.
He points out the EU has destabilised a whole series of countries,such as Libyia and Syria in the naive belief this would produce liberal democracies.
I would say in this the EU has been lead by the American Imperialist Aggressors
starting with the Clintons.
In an earlier period the Americans promoted the cause of men like Abdul Nasser in the naive assumption they were so many Washingtons and Jeffersons seeking liberty.
Foot note to the above:
“…….so many Washingtons an Jeffersons……” Was this what confused William Jefferson Clinton and William Jefferson Haig?
For Farage’s fight back see
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-26768602
David Ossitt @ 19:42
Radford NG @ 19:57
You know what pi$$es off Baron most? It is that people who lived in conditions of hands to mouth, but lived in peace, in reasonable harmony, nobody had to fear his neighbour or neighbours will break his front door, assault him on th street will not be able to live like that anymore whoever wins, whether the stripper’s crowd or the messiah’s. It must be unimaginably awful, one has little to eat as before, but now it’s also the fear of one’s life. And what TF for? That the EU will have another chunk of land to control?
Sorry about the hands at 20.38, Baron should really check before posting. Do forgive the poorly educated barbarian.
A Guardian headline:
Obama meets pope on Vatican visit
I would have expected:
Obama meets Pope on Vatican visit
or even:
obama meets Pope on Vatican visit
RobertC
March 27th, 2014 – 21:02
Whatever next? You expect correct grammar ? Be grateful that this Bolshie rag didn’t print “pope meets Obama at Vatican drop-in
Here’s another man going nuclear, when you get past the introductory piece by his colleague about the Albuquerque Police Department, and this link will only take one hour of your time unless you choose to search for the subsequent portions of the broadcast, which is not a bad investment for finding someone as passionate and honest about the collapse of civilisation and the work of the Devil that informs it:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uPoJAJb0loY
Some great posts above by the way and Baron @ 20:38 you will find that Alex Jones at this link is out there as pissed off as you are and raging on behalf of the same people in his own country and throughout the world who only want to live simple lives with their families, while manipulated societal breakdown and the thuggerisation of governments bring fear and the threat of catastrophic disaster across their horizon.
Meanwhile, my bank (for a small fee extracted by the Court) is allowed to engage in money-laundering for the drug cartels…but that’s another story
– or is it?
If anyone’s interested in things Turkish the link can help, click then scan down to SelimdeGrim. The posting is a recording in which Turkey’s army men are discussing how they can engineer an accident that would allow Turkey to invade Syria.
http://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/mar/27/google-youtube-ban-turkey-erdogan
“[Clegg] said it [Farage’s comment that the EU has blood on its hands] was “insulting” to people in Kiev who were “simply standing up for values that we should share and support, of democracy, of autonomy”. (BBC News)
The elected government of Ukraine was overthrown by fascists financed by western interests among which was the EU. These are presumably the values of Clegg, the Iago of British politics. He will no doubt be rallying to Obama’s view that Kosovo became independent pursuant to a UN-sponsored referendum, that Georgia is not on its way to joining NATO and the United States and Europe are developing countries.
“Reputation is an idle and most false imposition; oft got without merit, and lost without deserving.”
Two Middle East mothers are sitting in a cafe chatting over a plate of tabouli and a pint of goat’s milk.
The older of the two pulls a small folder out of her handbag and starts flipping through photos. They start reminiscing.
”This is my oldest son, Mujibar. He would have been 24 years old now.”
”Yes, I remember him as a baby.” says the other mother cheerfully.
“He’s a martyr now though.” the mother confides.
“Oh, so sad dear…” says the other.
”And this is my second son, Khalid. He would have been 21.”
”Oh, I remember him,” says the other happily, ”he had such curly hair when he was born.”
”He’s a martyr too…” says the mother quietly.
”Oh, gracious me…” says the other.
”And this is my third son. My baby. My beautiful Ahmed. He would have been 18”, she whispers.
“Yes,” says the friend enthusiastically, ”I remember when he first started school…”
”He’s a martyr also,” says the mother, with tears in her eyes.
After a pause and a deep sigh, the second Muslim mother looks wistfully at the photographs and, searching for the right words, says . . .
“They blow up so fast, don’t they?”
Duly forwarded to my Naughty Niece.
(Whose reputation is already ‘lost without deserving’).
Malfleur, I remember posting that joke in the first few weeks of the Wall – and receiving a very hostile reception. (not that IGAF).
The responses this time will surely tell us something about changing attitudes, tolerance, increasing animosity to the little sheetheads.
Perhaps PoM might check back, locate the original comments and repost them so we can see if attitudes have changed.
Clear Memories, @02:37
An ideal joke for the Alex Jones show as it has the potential to insert an Ad for “Patriot Foods Inc.” somewhere in the middle. Not that IGAF either.
Clear Memories, at the back of my mind I seemed to remember the joke. It came to me this time from Singapore, so it is still going the rounds.
If you tell a truth big enough and keep repeating it, people will eventually come to believe it. The truth can be maintained only for such time as the people can force the state or barbaric ideologues to accept the political, economic and/or military consequences of the truth. It thus becomes vitally important for the people to use all of their powers to encourage dissent, for the truth is the mortal enemy of the lie, and thus by extension, the truth is the greatest enemy of the rogue state and of barbarous ideologies
Easy Writer, you are such a wag!
If you missed the Alex Boot lecture at the Freedom Association – and all but 4 of us did – then you can catch up by reading it on this site in an exclusive publication of the text…
http://www.coffeehousewall.co.uk/the-alex-boot-lecture-at-the-freedom-association
On yesterday’s Alex Jones show, Max Keiser confirmed based on first-hand evidence that insider traders including the CIA and Cantor Fitzgerald, were selling put options on the two American airlines involved in the run-up to the 9/11 events based on information that the attacks were coming.
EC Writer will no doubt see this as a cynical move by Jones to maximize sales. None so blind as he who will not see.
“It seems the words of Polish Prime Minister Donald Tusk warning that “the world stands on the brink of conflict, the consequences of which are not foreseen… Not everyone in Europe is aware of this situation,” are a little more real than some (US equity buyers) might suspect. As The Week’s Crispin Black reports, at least 7,000 Polish workers in Europe have received call-up papers as army reservists in the last few weeks. Polish authorities dismiss it as “routine” but the men note this has never happened before.”
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2014-03-24/poland-quietly-mobilizing-its-army-reservists
Why has nobody asked the various experts involved in the Southern Indian Ocean search for MH370: “Why, in this age of highly sophisticated camera technology, hasn’t it been possible to blow up (that is enlarge) the images allegedly captured by both satellites and aeroplanes from Australia, France and China? Surely by now they should be able to discern shit from shinola, even in the difficult conditions they are having to cope with? And if they have done so and are not telling us – why?
It gets better. A man is spared jail because at 7′ 4″ he is to big for the beds, what is wrong with the floor? A woman of 94 is gagged by the courts because she objects to the intrusions of social workers, who know best what is good for the old dear. My leckey bills are going through the roof, correction, the are going across the channel where the power providers are based, and where they are not allowed to price gouge which is why they do it here. What is wrong with this damned country? Come on Frank, enlighten us.
Frank P @09:42
I dunno, Frank, but do ya fink dat, maybe a dozen or so years after this tragic episode, Alex Jones will run a special giving us the full SP? 😆
stephen maybery
We don’t have a Special Inspector General for United Kingdom Reconstruction.
Iraq and Afghanistan have and look at them.
EC Writer
Ho Ho Ho, what a witty fellow!
Am I the only one who sees horrifying parallels between the events in Eastern Europe and those which transpired one hundred years ago? Those who ignore the lessons of history…….. well we all know the rest, which is more than the buggers of Brussels ever will.
“Come on Frank, enlighten us…”
Cue: Sir Richard Mottram GCB ?
EC
If he does, it will need doubt be a five hour special and at least five Bilderbuggers will be exposed as benefitting from the sale of aeronautical technology emanating from the incident. Which of course, Alex will deduce, means that they were behind the disappearance. All you have to do is ‘fill in the dotted lines’. A smudge of bullshit here and there does the trick and accompanying loud rhetoric and bombast quickly distracts the attention of the gullible from the sleight of hand involved. The CIA have already sold the plane as spare parts for reassembly as a transport plane to traffic heroin from Afghanistan under the supervision of the SIGAR, whose investigators are all skilled moles. Hadn’t you worked that out already? Malfleur has been dropping you hints for months. And as an intrepid sojourner of the Far East (not to mention a purveyor of the
Far Fetched), he should know.
Typo alert – for ‘moles’ read ‘mules’. See how these dotted lines are smudged accidentally? Imagine what can be done deliberately! Especially by a Bilderbastard.
BTW – I have assumed that Alex Jones has a much younger brother called Owen, who couldn’t swim, despite the size of his lungs, which
, like his brother’s are capable of exhaling hot air for hours without inhaling.
Malfleur
March 28th, 2014 – 09:35
Interesting. Particularly since one of the organisations virtually annihilated in the 9/11 attacks was … Cantor Fitzgerald.
The Cantor Fitzgerald Relief Fund (www.cantorrelief.org), a 501(c)(3) not-for-profit, was founded on September 14, 2001, with a $1-million personal donation from Cantor Fitzgerald Chairman and CEO, Howard W. Lutnick. Mr. Lutnick along with the firm’s partners underwrite 100 percent of the expenses of the fund so that every penny of its income is paid out to those in need. In addition to the families of Cantor’s employees who were lost on 9/11, the Relief Fund provided assistance to family members of World Trade Center victims from 14 other companies. The Cantor Fitzgerald Relief Fund is unique in that it provides assistance directly to the people affected by these tragedies without intermediary or secondary organizational involvement. The Cantor Fitzgerald Relief Fund expanded its scope from victims of terrorism to also include victims of natural disasters, and emergencies, including victims of Hurricane Sandy and wounded members of the U.S. military.
Further to (13:40)
Come to think of it, the two brothers should get together and book themselves as a comedy act. They could call themselves ‘The Co-Jones’, indicative of the rhetoric of each.
It is not pleasant to use a term common to the Nazis for people of mixed Aryan and other race, but the Archbishop of Canterbury, Welby, is not a pleasant person. He deserves the vile term Mischling, because he is a vile person who wants to tear apart the religious and family fabric of this country. He supports same sex marriage, and as the midnight hour strikes tonight, one can visualise him celebrating another nail in the coffin of Great Britain.
Interesting to read that an Indian immigrant is suing the BBC for a million pounds because Topgear used the word slope when describing a bridge which had not been built level but which this woman insists is a deeply racist term.
AWK
Did you miss Question Time from Brighton last evening? It was packed with pouffery and replete with fey triumphalism. What with that and the fat-arsed-Abbott dominating proceedings; one to miss, but I did my duty and sat through it. Ugghh!
Frank P
March 28th, 2014 – 20:44
Hi, Frank
I sat through the disgusting circus. Only Caligula was missing. I was going to write to Cameron, but am afraid that as one has to provide full name and address, I will be carted off to a care home, and they will give me the Liverpool Care Path! I wanted to ask him if I could marry my cat, (alas I no longer have one, so the question is hypothetical) as it is a very nice cat and I love it dearly. Surely my human rights are being denied if I cannot marry my pussy!
Frank P
I have not been dropping hints for months. I quite openly stated at the outset the reason for my dissatisfaction with the rather important lacuna in your buddy’s press release for the Obama administration on Afghanistan “reconstruction”. Any subsequent hints were that it would be nice if you would rebut the allegation that the US government is involved in the export of heroin from that country which on its watch has increased from 7% to something like 93% of world consumption.
So voluble on other matters criminal,you seem to have been silenced by loyalty on this one. Perhaps no investigation of the heroin trade had begun when the piece was penned. Why not ask him?
As a general lesson to be learned however I would suggest that no-one in future publish government propaganda on the Wall.
Frank P @ 13.25 and 13.40
Interpreting the Wall – abbreviations
Coffeepedia: By “far-fetched” signals “not subject by me to a fact check because I can’t be sodded and I wouldn’t like it if it turned out to be true”.
Coffeepedia: “I have assumed” means “far-fetched” (see above) but carries with it the sub-text: “I WOULD like it if it turned out to be true and am about to be facetious because on this topic I never consider any of the facts because I have taken agin whatever has been said that I haven’t listened to “.
Is there any way that works of watching a recording of Question Time outside the UK online?
A rule of thumb for investigating leading banks: any big bank which has had two or more bank officers fall to their deaths from tall buildings this year should submit to an investigation of all bank officers above those deceased officers in rank.
Frank P – 20:44 ‘QT from Brighton’
I managed to avoid it but, please tell me, did she put her phone down?
Malfleur at 22-40
The answer appears to be `no`,re QT on TV.
http://iplayerhelp.external.bbc.co.uk/help/outside-the-uk/
Malfleur at 22-40
You can probably hear QT on Radio 5. The TV sound link starts 35 mins. in.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b03ymmzf
QT Home page with application form and FAQ
http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b006t1q9
There is also a Special Inspector General for Iraq Reconstruction (SIGIR). Things appear to be going well there too:
“Iraq’s total oil output hit a 35-year high of 3.6 million barrels per day (bpd) in February — even with all the suicide bombings and political clashes. Soon, it’ll be producing 4 million bpd.
And it’s mostly going to China.
That’s right. China gets almost half of the oil Iraq produces — about 1.5 million bpd. Iraq is now the country’s fifth-largest supplier, having overtaken Iran, which has been hobbled by U.S. sanctions.
If you thought that the oil would be coming to the U.S. (maybe because we fought a war there?) it’s not. ”
http://email.angelnexus.com/hostedemail/email.htm?CID=19683517555&ch=1E88737C089181ECF2B2E552CC2B9B90&h=43a52c4c77cc139b1335f37c357c65d7&ei=W4pEJrLN4
Apparently the Iraqis are selling the oil for US dollars and then using the dollars to buy gold which the west is selling at artificially depressed prices to keep the value of the US dollar up. Who was left holding the US dollars in this game of pass the parcel is not made clear.
However, SIGIR was given THREE awards by the CIE. What is the CIE you ask? Why, the President’s Council on Integrity and Efficiency. Yes, Obama does have one and in the scratch-my-back world of Obamania, no doubt everything done in the sock-puppet’s name keeps the CIE reporting on the massive outsput of those two qualities.
As you know, the Clintons and the Obamas are great friends of China.
Radford NG
I will give it a try, but they seem to make it difficult if you are not in the UK. Isn’t this something that the BBC World Service should be making available? Of course it would not be good for the country’s image were they to do so.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JrDsQtOi5Zg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z5I1nB1z0SE
Non-governmental propaganda. 🙂
RobertC (23:32)
Get prepared: she’s working towards a cabinet role in the next government. Sad fact: vote for Nige, get fatso.
Dilemma?
And just in case 01:50 didn’t reassure you; I’m sure this will:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hFzQeRXFInA
As a riposte to my suggestion that omitting any comment on US involvement in the Afghan heroin trade, while understandable when the author of the press release is an Obama appointee, does not give a full and thus reliable picture of the American “reconstruction” of Afghanistan being inspected by the Americans, Frank P’s links to an October 2013 edition of the Alex Jones show in which elite pedophile rings are described as Satanic (and one understands that Frank doesn’t believe any of that stuff any more than he believes in God) and an obscure link to an appearance of someone called David Icke at Wembley earlier that year in which the man seems to be proposing the outrageous fancy that governments try to control people’s perceptions of reality, do not seem in point.
But may be that is the point.
“Drug trafficking is the largest global commodity in profits after the oil and arms trade, consequently, “immediately following the October 2001 invasion [of Afghanistan by the Coalition] opium markets were restored. Opium prices spiraled. By early 2002, the domestic price of opium in Afghanistan (in dollars/kg) was almost 10 times higher than in 2000.”[15] The Anglo-American invasion of Afghanistan successfully restored the drug trade. The Guardian recently reported that, “In 2007 Afghanistan had more land growing drugs than Colombia, Bolivia and Peru combined.”[16].”…
…In 2002, former Additional Secretary in the Cabinet Secretariat of the Government of India wrote that, in regard to the failure to combat the rise in opium production, “this marked lack of success in the heroin front is due to the fact that the Central Intelligence Agency (CIA) of the USA, which encouraged these heroin barons during the Afghan war of the 1980s in order to spread heroin-addiction amongst the Soviet troops, is now using them in its search for bin Laden and other surviving leaders of the Al Qaeda.”[21]
The Hindu reported in 2008 that, “90 per cent of the heroin sold in Russia comes from Afghanistan,” and Putin was quoted as saying, “Unfortunately, they (NATO) are doing nothing to reduce the narcotic threat from Afghanistan even a tiny bit,” and that the coalition forces were “sitting back and watching caravans haul drugs across Afghanistan to the former Soviet Union and Europe.” The article then reported that, “according to unconfirmed reports the U.S. military transport aviation is used for the delivery of drugs from Afghanistan to the American airbases, Ganci in Kyrgyzstan and Incirlik in Turkey,” and that, “It has been reported earlier that the CIA is involved in Afghanistan’s opium production, or is at least protecting it.” One Russian journalist quoted anonymous Afghan officials as saying, “85 per cent of all drugs produced in southern and southeastern provinces are shipped abroad by U.S. aviation.”[22]”
Footnotes referred to can be found at this link:
http://www.geopoliticalmonitor.com/afghan-heroin-the-cia
Just trying to control those perceptions I guess…
Now here’s Robert D. Steele, a former Marine Corps infantry officer and intelligence officer, and then a CIA case officer who says “it’s unprofessional to confuse loyalty with integrity” and encourages the alternative media bloggers to become the intelligence Minutemen of this century, a structured citizen journalism.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WLr8ZvgURg0
Malaysia’s Acting Transport Minister meets families of passengers on MH370 and says he “hopes against hope” survivors will still be found
https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/breaking-news/id398269756
It’s not just our country that’s lost its grip on reality.
“Alleged arms trafficker, and anti-gun California Democratic State Senator Leland Yee knew that an arms deal he was attempting to facilitate would send money to the Moro Islamic Liberation Front (M.I.L.F.) in exchange for weapons, and that those weapons were intended to be imported into the U.S., and distributed in North Africa, and Italy.”
(Forbes)
Yee has been arrested by the FBI along with twenty or mor other people (along with Asian gang leader ‘Shrimp Boy’).
“Christian groups are celebrating with the news that the Federal Bureau of Investigation appears to have scrubbed the Southern Poverty Law Center (SPLC) from its hate crimes webpage, where the controversial group was listed as a resource and referred to as a partner in public outreach.”
(Breitbart)
Michael Savage invited Alex Jones on to his radio show on 27th March and, inter alia, the two discussed the significance of these two developments:
http://www.infowars.com/alex-jones-discusses-obamas-corruption-with-michael-savage/
Has the FBI decided that enough is enough and to recover its sense of duty? Let us pray so and that this is only the beginning.
Here is the full take of Michael Savage on 27th March on the most corrupt city in the USA and the corruption of Obama.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BrSR3UC9dC8
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/matt/
With all the hype about ‘historical’ sexual assaults and rapes, I see a new mass hysteria, Fear of Cats Spreading T.B. SeeMatt’s brilliant cartoon, it says it all.
AWK –
Matt is a Living National Treasure.
The media are suggesting that the latest foolishness in the world is Kim Jong Un’s (alleged) decree making it compulsory for men to have their hair cut short just like his.
But what do either the media say – and even more important, what do governments do – to put an end to the foolishness (and wickedness) of religion under which it compulsory to cut off of parts of young peoples’ genitals?
I’d like to see Matt’s take on that comparison.
Herbert Thornton
March 29th, 2014 – 16:33
Herbert, in reply to your question, “what do governments do….” The answer is nothing! The government is composed of evil men and women, and so is the opposition. One can only hope that Farage is of better character than Cameron, Clegg and the other knaves in the shadow cabinet. Let’s pray if he ever gains leadership, he will not be corrupted by power. As far as the media and especially Matt, why don’t you write to him and see what he says?
Twenty four hours TV coverage of sell-out-bration of sodomy and sapphoism. Dirty douchebags. And Cameron’s congratulationary felicitation has put the final nail in the coffin of his electoral chances. One can only assume that he’s made the necessary ‘arrangements’ to ensure that his assets are all salted away, so that he can gracefully retire to the lecture circuit with a score of honorary directorships. Meanwhile the ex-Deputy Speaker soldiers on in Crown Court defending his predatory sleazy arse-banditry as ‘consensual’! As if that alters the price of peas. The HoC? The Hovel of Corruption? The PoW? The Pit of Wankers? We need a new Hogarth to depict this era. Even Archie Cuntsbury approves of the ‘development’. Lock up your choirboys Vicar – another solemnization of filthy fudge packing or mutual muff-diving is due next Saturday! Have a gay day!
Frank P @ 18:56
Do as Baron has done, Frank, don’t switch any of the commentariat on, live.
Brian Sewell has a go in the DT. If you can get hold of a copy, it’s worth the few minutes it will take you to read him. ‘Why do we queer need it’, he asks. His answer cannot be bettered.
With all of this razzamatazz on the news about men marrying men and butch women marrying other women I feel a rising sickening disgust.
In my own mind I was content (but not happy) that men and women who wish to register their affections for each other and make lifelong commitment each to the other could have all of the legal perquisites available to the normal majority by way of the civil partnership agreement.
But marriage as defined by the Anglican Prayer book is clear and precise:-
DEARLY beloved, we are gathered together here in the sight of God, and in the face of this congregation, to join together this Man and this Woman in holy Matrimony; which is an honourable estate, instituted of God in the time of man’s innocency, signifying unto us the mystical union that is betwixt Christ and his Church; which holy estate Christ adorned and beautified with his presence, and first miracle that he wrought, in Cana of Galilee; and is commended of Saint Paul to be honourable among all men: and therefore is not by any to be enterprised, nor taken in hand, unadvisedly, lightly, or wantonly, to satisfy men’s carnal lusts and appetites, like brute beasts that have no understanding; but reverently, discreetly, advisedly, soberly, and in the fear of God; duly considering the causes for which Matrimony was ordained.
First, it was ordained for the procreation of children, to be brought up in the fear and nurture of the Lord, and to the praise of his holy Name.
Secondly, it was ordained for a remedy against sin, and to avoid fornication; that such persons as have not the gift of continency might marry, and keep themselves undefiled members of Christ’s body.
Thirdly, it was ordained for the mutual society, help, and comfort, that the one ought to have of the other, both in prosperity and adversity. Into which holy estate these two persons present come now to be joined. Therefore if any man can shew any just cause, why they may not lawfully be joined together, let him now speak, or else hereafter for ever hold his peace.
Those are the words that I heard at my wedding 52 years ago and nowhere does it leave any doubt that a marriage is between a man and a woman.
These sexual deviants do not want marriage because of loving each other (and I hope that they do) but it is an attempt by them to make us heterosexuals see them as normal when they are clearly not the norm and are in point of fact degenerate.
“These sexual deviants do not want marriage because of loving each other (and I hope that they do) but it is an attempt by them to make us heterosexuals see them as normal when they are clearly not the norm and are in point of fact degenerate.”
First, homosexuality is not a sin. The term “homosexuality” refers to the condition of being sexually attracted to members of one’s own gender. An attraction, even a same-sex attraction, is not sinful; it is simply a description of what is. Every one of us struggles daily with our attractions and desires. This is the human condition: we are made good, but are sometimes attracted to things that aren’t good for us.
Of course, not all desires are bad. In fact, every human person innately desires the good. We all long for love. We all long for friendship. We all long for the truth. But we are also often tempted toward things that aren’t good. We long for love, but we are sometimes tempted to use other people. We long for friendship, but we may be tempted to manipulate friends. We long for the truth, but we can be tempted to lie. All of these temptations are simply that: temptations. They are our desires out-of-order.
The Catholic Church sometimes uses the word “disorder” when referring to these attractions. This ought to make sense to all of us: we are made for good and any attraction to something which is not good is a disordered desire.
The same is true when it comes to sexuality. All humans are ordered towards loving and being loved. Every one of us is made for love. No one is excluded from this. But we also recognize something within us that is attracted towards using another person for our own purpose. A man is tempted to fantasize about a woman who is not his wife. A girl is tempted to act out sexually with her boyfriend. A woman is tempted to read romance novels and insert herself in the story. A priest is sexually attracted to a woman in his parish. A man is attracted sexually to another man.
All of these are “simply” disordered attractions. We can wag our finger and say, “Don’t think like that!”, but what would that do? Wouldn’t it be better to point out what these people are actually longing for? They (and all of us) are longing to know and be known…to love and be loved.
A person who is attracted to a member of the same gender is desiring something that is good; they are desiring love. The problem is the fact that this good desire has become sexualized. This is huge. In our culture, we have reduced love to “romantic love”. We have further reduced romantic love to “sex”. Therefore, if I deny someone sex, I am saying that they may not know love. But that is ridiculous. All of us know that love is more than sex and we know that love is more than romance. In fact, wiser, more ancient cultures believed that friendship was a greater form of love than erotic love.
Before anyone berates me I confess this is from a Catholic website
Malfleur
March 28th, 2014 – 22:40
You’ll find it on You Tube within a few days of transmission, usually in full but sometimes broken into segments. Plus there are a number of highlights available going back years.
Baron
Sewell is an amusing old queen and probably harmless; but even he shrinks from the truth – that both sodomy and sapphoism are and always has been, promiscuous, predatory and politicized. This latest development will not satisfy the bugger’s. How long before this day – Mothers’ Day – becomes Motherfuckers’ Day?
Sri ‘have’ and ‘buggers’ – my Nexus ‘corrector’ is illiterate.
Clear Memories
Thanks for the tip.
Frank P
March 30th, 2014 – 02:47
I don’t even want to think what the Lord’s Prayer has been reduced to.
“Men of Harlech” has no doubt been castrated or at the best is now “Women of Harlech”
http://www.frontpagemag.com/2014/frontpagemag-com/islamic-human-slaughterhouses-for-christians-on-the-glazov-gang/
Not much said about this by the crooks in the White House, nor by 10 Downing Street or Lambeth Palace.
I wonder why?
Meanwhile whilst Dave was ticking the private parts of the ungodly ……
it was a good day to bury bad news:
After Dave’s PCC debacle, now this!
“A move to fast-track external recruits into senior policing roles for the first time is about to come into force in England and Wales.”
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-26806718
First came the Gauleiters, and now here the come the Gauleiters’
Mener Persons! Later down the track this is going to be exploited by those who are not as dumb as Dave and BoJoDave’s latest “initiative” is, I suggest, on top of Hogan Howe’s recent vision of turning the Metropolitan Police into something akin to that of Lagos, is the final betrayal of professional police officers and policing in the UK.
To quote Sir Richard Mottram GCB :
“We’re all fucked. I’m fucked. You’re fucked. The whole department’s fucked. It’s been the biggest cock-up ever and we’re all completely fucked.”
“The rank of chief constable is to be opened up to applicants from overseas. ”
These guys in government (and opposition) are serious about destroying our country. When are we going to get serious about stopping them?
354104/news/metromanila/israeli-embassy-in-manila-shuts-down-as-its-diplomats-go-on-strike
““At this time we are sorry to inform the general public that the embassy of Israel in the Philippines, along with all Israeli embassies worldwide, will be closed until further notice,” an official embassy statement said.”
Hm. really?!
EC
March 24th, 2014 – 08:31
” My personal experience of being on this junk for the last five years is that whilst my BP, HDLs/LDLs etc, have all been, for the most part, “tickety-boo” the downside has been feeling totally crap most of the time.”
I would recommend the Survival Shield and the Fluoride Shield from Infowars. But listen to Dr. Edward Group on these items first. He can be found on YouTube.
Andy Car Prk
I think you have to put the left wing in, the right wing out, in, out, in out…
Malfleur, I am serious about trying to stop them. We were talking at Church this morning about the imminent threat to Traditional Christians which will require some of us to go to prison. I sense a changing attitude to the system even from those who have been willing to be compliant in the past.
Frank P @ 18:56
You are quite right, the latest move by the brainless boy to ‘satiate’ yet another ‘grievance’ of one of the preferred phylums of the enlightened Britain will not be the last. They’ll come for more for it is not the heterosexual majority, but the homosexual few, well, mainly the Stonewall tossers, who should get used to it. It’s they who must be fed a never ending stream of reassurances that ‘they’re normal’ because they themselves think they’re not. This chip on their shoulder can never be removed. One day, someone will have to tell them go jump the tree.
In the past, there have been societies that tolerated homosexual behaviour, but there has never been one that elevated homosexuality to the level of heterosexual pairings.
telemachus @ 19:56
A passerby spots a man smashing his penis placed on a bench with a hammer. ‘What the heck are you doing?, he asks. ‘I’m masturbating’, answers the pleasure seeking guy. ‘And when is most satisfying?”, the man asks. ‘When I miss’, the masturbator replies.
For reasons that must be bleeding obvious to you, telemachus, man’s ingenuity in seeking to exploit the one feature of sex that was a must when the welfare state, the maternity leave, the child allowance and stuff were not around knows no limits. But why to pick on just of one of such avenues of fleeting pleasure, elevate it to the level of reproductive heterosexual coupling?
Peter from Maidstone @ 14:21
How likely are you to succeed, Peter? In today’s ST, a piece suggests that anyone refusing, on religious or any other grounds, to provide what the newly elevated want for their wedding ceremony (from transport to flowers) will face prosecution. If found guilty, he faces hefty fines.
How long will it take for a determined homo couple to find a service provider who says ‘no’, pay the fine, fund the gay’s wedding, goes out of business?
Malfleur @ 06:03
But ask yourself a question, Malfleur: Would the Afghans or the Mexicans (increasingly for heroin, Baron’s told) be as keen suppplying the stuff as they seem to be (with or without our misguided policies) if there wasn’t demand for it?
Herbert Thornton @ 16:33
If you were as good a cartoonist as Matt is, would you yourself plucked up enough courage to take them on, Hebert? Baron wouldn’t for given the current state of our criminal justice system one’s better off staying away from any hard hitting criticism of the ROP. Just think, you take them on, it hurts them, a mullah issues a fatwa, a brainwashed thug knifes you, he gets life, the tariff is set at nine years, he is out in seven, but you’re in a wheelchair or dead, forever.
Baron, Christians must be willing to pay the cost of principle. I know a great many who do.
There is no possibility of a homosexual “wedding” taking place in any church I am associated with.
Apologies again for the errors, next it will be fewer postings, fewer errors.
And this:
Unless the equality shibboleth gets dethroned, Peter, no court in the land, and certainly not the European one, will refuse the newly elevated what they want, from anyone they want it, in any place they want it. Just wait, you’ll see.
Can you speed listen? If so – cop this. A primer on Ukraine:
http://americandigest.org/mt-archives/5minute_arguments/understanding_ukraine_the.php
Seems clear to me. As for an answer to the historical problems …. ???
Baron, I don’t doubt that is one possibility but I do know that many churches and certainly all those I am associated with will face prison and go underground rather than abandon principles such as these.
Baron at 15-43
Peter f. M.
I seem to recall caterers are already being sued in the USA for refusing to provide a cake for a `gay` wedding.
There is an article from a `progressive` defending the right of religious objectors to deny goods and services.He writes religious religious groups have the right to reserve their sacraments to believers.He writes if he owned a company and a prospective employee did not wish to serve `gays`he had the right to send him on his way.
http://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2014/02/should-christian-bakers-be-allowed-to-refuse-wedding-cakes-to-gays/284061/
Frank P March 30th, 2014 – 18:29
“Can you speed listen? If so – cop this. A primer on Ukraine:”
At just short of seven minuets a superb presentation.
Thank you Frank.
Baron (30 March 16:07) –
Well, here’s how I’d draw the cartoon.
The cartoon would feature an English shopping street including two shops next to each other.
One shop would have a signboard that saying “Haircuts, Kim Jon Un style” and there would be a lineup of 3 men waiting for their haircuts.
The other shop would have a signboard saying “Quick Service Clitorectomy Clinic” and there would be a line up, stretching to the horizon, of appropriately dressed families each carrying a trussed and helpless young girl.
But I take your point about the danger of it being published. Perhaps it would be prudent to be living in an undisclosed location – and very well protected by a competent government. Maybe somewhere like China, or у чёрта на куличках in Russia.
Baron at 15-43
Peter f. M.
Every-Things Up To Date In Kansas City…..or actually in Tulsa.
The Kansas Lower House has passed a law allowing refusal of services to `gays`in the matter of accommodations,adoption,foster care,employment in respect of marriage or civil union.It also protects people from being sued for refusing services.
http://www.cnn.com/2014/02/13/us/kansas-bill-same-sex-services/
Frank P @ 18:29
One superb link, Frank, thanks.
Who is this guy anyway? If he learnt tto speak slower, he could replace the bald one from Yorkshire, not only can he summarise a complex issue well, he also has plenty of hair.
Radford NG @ 19:35
The guy’s reasoning is hard to fault, but the issue of homosexuality and its place in the enlightened society of ours ain’t about reason, it never has been. If it were, we wouldn’t have gay marriages. It’s about the notion of equality trumping everything else.
One can have equality without freedom, the Slavs under the Red Menace were all equal in poverty, but not free, but one cannot have freedom with equality because freedom is making choices, choices discriminate, hence those we discriminate against cannot be equal with those we favour.
We are born free not equal, the tenet of equality is not divine, bestowed upon us by birth as is that of freedom, but man made. We should of course strive to treat each other equally, be treated by those in power equally under the law, as we should strive not to kill each other, help each other and stuff like that, but it’s freedom that should reign supreme.
Baron fears that unless someone somewhere engineers the switch between quality and freedom as the guiding principle in law making we’re truly stuck, will have to wait until the equality shibboleth runs into one of the shibboleths of the followers of Allah, or someone who has tools of persuasion other than reasoning.
Herbert Thornton @ 19:47
If you are good at drawing, Herbert, the cartoon would get the message across well, but Baron wouldn’t bet on safety even in teh the places you mention, one not liking it can always sneak through.
Baron at 21-09
Speaking of Liberty versus Equality:The-She-Wolf-of-France is still on the rise.
Marine Le Pen and the FN have won ten Town Halls in French local elections including Beziers.
The centre-right have won Toulouse,Angers and Marseilles;(also Reims).
Re above:
http://uk.reuters.com/article/2014/03/30/uk-france-elections-idUKBREA2T04920140330
No surprises here.
http://www.pressgazette.co.uk/john-pilger-will-hutton-bob-geldof-and-danny-boyle-among-200-leading-figures-urging-press-back-royal
Baron
March 30th, 2014 – 15:22
My beef was with the descriptions deviants and degenerate
While attracted to the 1666 prayer book marriage service our society needs to recognise that some folk are born different and get away from attitudes that lead to bullying in the schoolyard and workplace
I cannot detract from Feldblum’s views:
“Gay” sex is morally good and is as “wonderful” as heterosexual relations, according to Chai Feldblum, President Obama’s nominee to become commissioner for the Equal Employment Opportunity Commission.
“Gay sex is morally good,” she said. “Now you may think that might be a little crazy to go out there and say gay sex is good. But think a second. Society definitely believes that heterosexual sex is good. Right. Heterosexual sex within a certain framework — marriage — I mean, you can’t get more dewy-eyed and romantic in this society about how wonderful that is.”
Continued Feldblum: “If you’re not being cynical for the moment, I think that does reflect a correct understanding that sex is often a basic building block for intimacy and that intimacy and connections within couples and within families are integral building blocks for a healthy society.”
Baron
March 30th, 2014 – 15:49
I don’t really understand the point or the relevance of your question.
telemachus @ 03:05
It isn’t a surprise then she was nominated by the messiah, is it.
Look, Baron has said it before: Two things on sex are unarguably true, we enjoy it, and we reproduce by it. Since the phylum you are batting for has BA (no pun here) to do with the latter, and it shouldn’t be the State’s business to meddle with the former the gay marriage legislation is rather misplaced.
Malfleur @ 03:14
The relevance to the point you were making is questionable, granted, the point however is quite clear. If the West didn’t demand coke, heroin, the other stuff but potatoes and carrots. the Afghans and the other suppliers would ship to us potatoes and carrots rather the hard stuff.
I think a little whimsy to start the week off is in order. I am reading a history of the Kremlin, during refurbishment in the twenties, one of the officials in charge was a man called A. I. Ivanov-Shits. Now we do not have a Kremlin in which to house our nomenklatura, but by God, we do have plenty of shits.
Question: When a pair of lesbians decide to get married, and two wedding gowns are required, do they get two for the price of one?
AWK – No, but are squabbling and cat fighs over who looks better in her gig.
Verity
March 31st, 2014 – 19:57
Good to hear from you. Hope all’s well.
AWK – Thank you for your kindly thoughts. I am trying to find a way home with my three cats, but it is hard tack. I just want to be home in my own country with my own cats and surroundings, But it’s the organisation and the expense. It was easier coming this way around five years ago.
My cousin is trying to find me a council flat, but it is hard going.