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  1. Dame Vera Lynn : 100th birthday today .

  2. Noa – 17:19

    That didn’t read like the Colonel.
    More likely to be yu-know-hu up to his old tricks?

  3. Baron
    March 20th 11:41

    “As a policeman, a top one at that, cannot you smell even a whiff of hatred in this wrapping, Frank?”

    I learned very early on during the discharge of constabulary duties not to confuse the emotions of ‘hatred’ and ‘justified contempt’ – and during allegations involving either, to take the “eye of the beholder” into consideration. Moreover in days of yore before police politicisation, hatred was not a criminal offence unless it led to an act that was. Then the act was on the charge sheet and, except perhaps in the case of murder (when ‘malice aforethought’ was a component), the emotion was of no concern to the police; though of course, the beak – or the judge – might factor it in to the sentence if satified that guilt was established.

    I also learned the hard way – and not through academic inculcation – something about psychological projection (ask EC, he has a keen eye for the diagnosis). As your friend Nietzsche is reported to have instructed – and I paraphrase – “Be careful when you look into the abyss, it has a nasty habit of looking back”. 🙂

  4. EC March 20th, 2017 – 21:06

    It was definitely me!

  5. CalExit has been revived-
    I have to say that this had not penetrated my consciousness but clearly there is a history:

    “In 2009, then-GOP Assemblyman Bill Maze proposed the state of Coastal California consisting of 13 counties, including Los Angeles and San Francisco. Maze argued that coastal liberals politically drowned out California’s more conservative regions.

    The desire to create a conservative haven led then-Riverside County Supervisor Jeff Stone in 2011 to propose the state of South California. Thirteen counties, including Orange, Riverside and San Bernardino, would have been part of this 51st state.”

    Maybe Trump will make this all happen.

  6. Frank P March 20th, 2017 – 21:10

    I like that comment although everything about it speaks for what has sadly been lost. Now that once dispassionate objectivity of the constabulary – actually reassuring to those seeking help – has been replaced by emoting and incontinent opinion masking the inefficiencies of a state police engaged in promoting a political agenda.

    Liz Truss has been busy continuing Starmer’s dirty work, turning the presumption of innocence on its head and the age old right of the accused to face his accuser(s) in a court of law. Whereas the constabulary understood that “the test of police efficiency was the absence of crime and disorder, and not the visible evidence of police action in dealing with them”, the CPS are statist and managerial, driven by the need to churn out convictions, not “by pandering to public opinion” but by pandering instead to a specific political agenda demanded by feminists, which is even worse.

    In bringing charges the constabulary understood the need “to seek and preserve public favour, not by pandering to public opinion, but by constantly demonstrating absolutely impartial service to law, in complete independence of policy”. Since levering that role away from the police, worse after 1997, the CPS do the complete opposite as a creature of the state. Even determining prosecution on the likelihood of conviction is, excuse the phrase, a cop out. And plea bargaining, which is coming, another ghastly Americanism. Not justice.

  7. Equity was introduced by the Crown to temper rigours of common law and statute. Equity brought justice where it did not exist before. Justice brought peace. Might plea bargaining not be considered as a variation of the equitable principle?


    No mention of Project Dragnet yet by Fox News or James Comey.

    May be someone should send them a copy of the Infowars article and the video of Alex Jones’s interview with Dr. Jerome Corsi….

    Recipients would have the choice of looking at one or the other and can only be blamed if they can be irritated by Jones’s passion but still choose the video.

  9. Colonel Mustard (22:11)

    I have oft tried to write those eloquent and concise sentences to summarise the predicament you describe – but usually fail miserably by allowing my ‘justifed contempt’ – or what my old mukka Baron might describe as ‘hatred’ – for the self-serving bastards responsible for destroying the once civil backbone of the UK, to overcome the objectivity that once characterised my m.o. in The Job – and to lead off with the tirades that sadly only demonstrate the impotence of old age, in the certain knowledge that there is nobody around likely to be able to reverse the decline before I pop my clogs. I’d like to think that ‘it will have to get worse before it gets better’ but doesn’t history tell us that failing civilisations get ‘worserer and worserer’ until they implode and are supplanted by voracious usurpers who exploit the sloth and stupidity of the incumbent so called leaders (in reality parasites), who fail to defend and protect what has been bequeated to them by their inventive and valiant forebears – often at the cost of their own lives.

    Once again, I can only cite Voltaire’s lament, admittedly in another context, but nonetheless apropos:

    Once did I sing, in less lagubrious tone,
    The sunny ways of pleasure’s general rule;
    The times have changed, and, taught by growing age
    And sharing of the frailty of mankind,
    Seeking a light amid the deepening gloom,
    I can but suffer, and will not repine.

  10. Malfleur March 21st, 2017 – 00:25


  11. Very well argued.


    Alex Jones Show Monday – further report by Dr. Jerome Corsi, Infowars Washington Bureau Chief

    Drain the swamp! And a new trial for Sheriff Arpaio!

  13. Malfleur March 21st, 2017 – 03:30

    Your argument not mine. I just disagreed. Saves me the bother of stating a case which you will ignore anyway. Been there, done that, got the tee-shirt.

  14. You should not presume what I will and will not ignore.

  15. Frank P March 21st, 2017 – 00:45

    Yes, the impotence of knowing what has been lost – or destroyed – but having to live amongst those who don’t and where a sly political revisionism sets out to discredit everything about what once was.

    And as you observe we are beset by leaders who consider themselves infallible in “improving” in less than a lifetime on the legacy bought with much blood, treasure and patience by those who have gone before. The notion of being transient caretakers seems to escape their pea brains as much as the consideration of consequences for their enthusiasm for reform.

    Liz Truss, one time Lib Dem from a hard left background, emerged from the wonk-tank Reform and their website is a hoot if BS amuses you. Lots of teenage wonks on their staff and the “article” by Louisa Rolfe, Deputy Chief Constable of West Midlands Police on “Reinventing public services for citizens’ use” reads like the worst type of corporate managerial BS attempting to sell sand to arabs. Government loves this, elevates this unelected “charity” to select advisor status and proceeds to “change things” rather than just govern well. We are doomed because wonk opinion and theory gets fast tracked to policy. Nothing there about what has worked in the past, the theories about what is wrong grow into the theories of how to put it right, all narrowed to political correctness and ideology of course.

    “You are not there to shine yourself or acquire power or prove yourself as you think you are up there among the elites of the nation.
    You are there as the guardian of your fellow countrymen.
    That they may be safe, they may be prosperous, they may be well governed and lightly burdened,
    But above all that they may be free”

  16. Colonel Mustard @ 07:53

    Baron reckons the change happened, Colonel, when the police stopped walking around, bought cars, put on the cars ‘to serve and protect’. That’s always the giveaway, the slogan substitutes what the police actually did before ergo no need to say it, people experienced it.

  17. Malfleur @ 03:40

    Listening to a part of the Intelligence Committee session, Malfleur, the barbarian got a distinct feeling that unless the Donald regains initiative he’s toast.

  18. Frank P @ 21:10

    Having no experience of trying to figure ‘who done it’, nor wasting any time reading the likes of Agatha either (sorry boys if you admire her), the poorly educated Slav would have thought that emotion could be as valid a reason for committing a crime as anything else, in crime passionnel is positively shrieks ‘look; look, I’m the reason the axe is stuck in his cranium’.

    The learned men may as well add another category to the can of crimes where emotion is the the prime or at least a co-driver, a category the progressives helped to boost in numbers by invading the lands of Allah, fugging things up, then leaving letting the religious fanatics rule.

    The motive of the jihadis cum suicide bombers in particular cannot be anything but hatred for the infidel, love for, obsession with, worship or whatever of Allah, it’s what they often record for us to read or watch before leaving to say hello to the virgins.

    Whilst looking into the abyss, the abyss blinking back, it seems the key point of Baron’s posting has been totally forgotten – that it’s at least wicked, pitiless, for a gentleman rather graceless to abuse a human for a life changing illness, or rather the consequences of. A savage may go for it, but someone of classic education, claiming the higher moral ground, and religious to boot, hmmm.

  19. Radford NG @ 19:01

    At 100 she looks better than the barbarian looked at 20, Radford, but then she is of the beautiful sex.

    A remarkable girl, let she make it another 100, Happy Birthday, Dame Vera.

  20. So, our former Chancellor, Ozzie, the Screaming Lord Sutch of economics, is to become editor of the Evening Standard. Can we assume the the rag will now be re-named Gideon’s Bible?

  21. Baron, March 20th, 2017 – 11:41

    You prompted me to re-visit Mr. Boot’s webpage to view his ‘hit piece’ on Ms. Jolie. I didn’t think it was that bad, even mildly amusing, as compared to some of his obituaries of recently deceased “celebrities” he feels compelled to deliver his judgements upon. At least Ms. Jolie is in a position to return fire should she ever stumble upon his particular diverticula portion of the intertubes.

    I note from her wikipage that the thrice married Ms. Jolie has six children, so whatever else Mr. Boot has to say about her breasts they’ve had ample opportunity to do their job as nature intended! Breast cancer is no joke so if Ms Jolie had the slightest concern that her family history would render her susceptible to it then she was prudent to get her norks removed.

    As for the humour? Well it’s all a matter of timing as Jimmy Carr, Mr. Boot’s favourite comedian, might say. Nobody who’s just had a relation hanged is liable to find a joke about Albert Pierrepoint funny.

    I wonder Mr Boot also enjoys Frankie Boyle, who ups the ante a bit on Jimmy Carr? In general it doesn’t matter how awful, sick or tasteless a joke is… if you laugh, then you own it!

    As a final thought I wonder if Mr. Boot will be brave enough to share his thoughts on the life and worth of Martin McGuinness? I do hope so.

  22. Frank P,

    Interesting, that in his Jolie piece, that Mr Boot Snr. refers to the LSE as “a formerly reputable university.” Was it ever thus? As far back as I can remember, early 60s onwards, it was a hotbed of commie agitation.

    Max Boot may have only spent “one semester” there but they certainly did a number on him didn’t they!

  23. Baron March 21st, 2017 – 10:18

    Yes, and became reactive. As well as dog in the manger. “We might not be able to protect you as we disappear from your streets and villages but we are going to make damn sure that you are not permitted to protect yourselves”.

    Instead of part of us they became part of them. “Them” being the gradually inflating and inter-connected state. And any proactivity or vigilance on their part now seems to be more directed to what we might say or write contrary to the “keep a lid on it” narrative.

    The hollow “boast-slogans” you refer to are everywhere, ever increasing as the quality and efficiency of actual delivery declines. Intention not consequence or outcome.

  24. Stephen Maybery – 10:42


    The question still remains, just what were George Osborne and Peter Mandelson up to on Oleg Deripaska’s yacht, the ‘Queen K’ in Corfu? (take the quips about cabin boys, bottom bunks, and golden rivets as read)

    and this…

  25. I wasted two hours yesterday watching the live feed from the Congressional inquisition in DC. When Comey and Rodgers did answer any questions I was struck the naivety of their replies. Eventually I was rendered Comeytose.

    Whilst I was conscious nobody mentioned the elephant in the room. i.e. Wikileaks Vault 7, and the CIA’s ability to masquerade as anybody they like in cyberspace.

    The proceedings were a farce, indeed a show!

  26. Well the Londonderry Commander is dead.
    That will deflate the Boston Irish Liberals.
    The dreadful outpouring of crocodile tears from the high ups here and over there is a trial to behold.
    The man ordered executions while pushing buckets for money around East Coast Irish bars.
    The world is a better place today.

  27. Rand Paul: ‘Somebody Was Spying On The Trump Campaign,’ Flynn ‘Lost His Job’ Because Of It
    “It sounds like what the president said has already been proven to be true.”

  28. Mark Stein on “Tucker Carlson Tonight” – last night

    discussing the DC inquistion…

    Comey’s opinion that Russia was behind Brexit was particularly bizarre!

  29. Rupert Murdoch has “disappeared” Judge Andrew Napolitano – until further notice.

  30. EC @ 14:15

    This guy Stein scares more than nukes, EC, not because of his take on Russia, because of the quality of his reasoning, the man is an excellent example of the dumbed down Americans one can laugh at on u-tube, but this is serious, fruitcakes like him are to be in governance in the Republic, that’s the future generation of leaders, sweet baby J, keep an eye on the Donald because if he fails we truly are fugged up.

  31. EC @ 14:25

    That’s the reach of the Deep State, the judge is right, the GCHQ have helped the CIA before, they must have been helpful on this occasion, too, but as Frank once pointed out the mechanism was that of winks and nods, no smoking gun anywhere.

    The Donald made a mistake keeping Comey in, he could have replaced him, put his man in, cleansed the outfit which seems totally under the influence of the progressives.

  32. Malfleur @ 12:47

    Paul’s right, but didn’t think it through, Malfleur. If as Comey said yesterday, the FBI has been looking into the misbehaving Russians and their connection to the Donald’s team since July last year, they, the FBI, must have put surveillance on the Donald, too. How do you separate him and whoever it was who’s on the FBI watch list? How do you listen to the one, but not the Donald?

    This is all fake, the investigation is taking so long because it takes time to manufacture fakes, to convince people who may testify later that they either saw or did’t see what fits or doesn’t fit rest. the fake evidence the FBI is putting together.

    That’s why the barbarian reckons the Donald has to act fast, if he doesn’t they will produce enough fake ‘facts’ to have him impeached, he won’t have a chance, the faking will be irrefutable.

    The reception of the Russian interference has morphed into certainty, listen to the Stein Congressman from the EC’s clip, he’s convinced, but both Comey and the other guy who testified yesterday said no evidence of any wrongdoing’. Lunacy.

  33. EC @ 12:28

    Norman’s the one who gets it right, EC, the man was a killer, the world’s better for it.

  34. EC @ 11:28

    That’s our swamp that needs cleansing, EC, the whole bunch of them, but no Donald is sight.

  35. Baron/EC

    That clip was not Stein (sic) but Stallwell. ??

  36. Colonel Mustard @ 11:18

    Have you noticed, Colonel, how when a major accident happens, the scene is crawling with hundreds of police, even though one hardly sees a bobby on our streets? Where do they come from?

  37. Frank P @ 17:21

    Thanks, guru, but the real name cannot change anything, the guy must have come straight from a college, Tucker should have asked him if he knew the capital of few European cities, then have a laugh at the answers.

    Tucker is amongst the first sites the bar barbarian seeks when he opens his MacBook, the guy’s articulate, witty, his sense of humour resonates with the poorly educated Slav. Have a look here, it’s few days old, the female comes under the same heading as the Congressman Stairwell. Can you follow her argument?

  38. For those who still remember the fate of the passengers of the MH17, it’s by Helmer, but the Australian stance must be for real, he couldn’t have made it up:

  39. Frank P – 17:21

    I think it must have been representative Eric Stalwell (D-CA) that Baron was referring to. The same generation/mindset as Max Boot?

  40. Few more points on the Comey charade:

    Why didn’t any of the Committee members asked about Podesta and his merry men, who were actively lobbying on behalf of Russian entities, the Clinton campaign was openly collecting contributions from wealthy Russian donors, e.g. Roman Abramovich’s wife Darya Zhukova.

    Comey has a short memory saying he could not recall any instances “during his lifetime” of law enforcement agencies going after journalists for publishing classified information.

    When Obama ruled his Administration, the Justice Department went after Fox reporter James Rosen for refusing to reveal a source. He was listed by the department as co-conspirator in the State Department leak case in 2013. Another Fox reporter, Jana Winter, was also threatened with imprisonment for contempt of court for refusing to reveal her sources in the 2012 Aurora mass shooting investigation.

    Comey also said that “If all they (the leakers) have done is lie to a reporter, that’s not against the law.” Just think what that does to the field of leaks. Bonanza for everyone who happens to be close to the decision makers, because if he’s right, one can make a little earner out of leaking, no fear of punishment.

    On the BBC Radio4 yesterday, hosted by the Carney woman she had three guests to talk about the grilling of Comey, two Democrats, one Republican commentator based in London, who might have been a Democrat, too. One of the Dem senators said that the Donald will have to get used to the leaks, it’s what happens today.

    It’s OK for Snowden to return to the Republic then?

  41. Stephen Maybery @ 10:42

    You have to speed up on the news up-take, Stephen, this was in the headlines days ago.

  42. EC @ 17:49

    Would you be kind, click on the link you furnished at 14.15, run it in full, EC? It was this link, your prompter that it was ‘Mark Stein’ in that clip that confused the easily confused barbarian.

  43. Baron,

    Since you are back online you might find this short video tour around the Kalashnikov Factory of interest. I did. I didn’t realise that they made such an array of products. The attractive young female presenter is so cool she could sit on a block of ice and it wouldn’t melt!

  44. Baron – 18:02

    Mark Steyn was on for the first 5 mins of the Tucker Carlson program, and representative Eric Stalwell (D-CA) was on at the end. I agree with you, he’s real wazzock, and a dangerous nutter to boot. The Dems have no shortage of those!

  45. Amusement from Northern Britain?

    Yes! 🙂

    ‘MISSING: NICOLA STURGEON’ First minister told to return to DAY JOB by local constituents

    MISSING posters demanding Nicola Sturgeon returns to her day job have sprung up in the Scottish first minister’s very own constituency.

  46. Baron

    This one will bring on a touch of schizoid rage, I fear. Another touch of justified contempt (aka “hatred”).

    But Mark Steyn must have pleased you with his little stint on Tucker Carlson’s show last night?

  47. … then there’s this one: cold, clinical and kerrrect!

  48. EC

    Alex Boot seems to have read your questions – and answered them. 🙂

    Btw … “Comeytose” – wunnerful!!

    all 6’8″ – all arsehole! He must have a JEH type dossier on Don Trumpo, or he would be toast by now. Troubled times ahead, I’m afraid. This Manafort thing ain’t going away.

    This the sort of poison being fed into the well by the ‘imperium in imperio’:

    The circus is now in full swing.

    Where is Rudi G hidin’? Must ask around.

  49. RobertRetyred, March 21st, 2017 – 21:20

    Great news! 🙂 Signs of a Jock Spring?

    When the permanent political classes around the world effectively shut down the “social” media, deny ordinary people those forums to communicate, then the resistance will have to go Old School!

  50. “The Russians are coming! Run for your lives!”
    John McAfee

    His latest thoughts on cyber security, and both state organised and gifted amateur hacking.

  51. Quite amusing:-

    It’s a constituent of long established lefty self-hate, being dissatisfied at being “boring British”, in turn an extension of adolescent parent issues, resulting in the fetishisation of everything “not British”, especially anything ethnic or involving eating or drinking at pavement tables. It seems to have become more prevalent with the rise in gap year travel funded by the bank of Mummy and Daddy.

    The only corrective to this is probably to replace gap years with two years compulsory national service followed by five years in the reserves with compulsory annual camps, weekly training sessions and one weekend in four on exercise. Hipsters would have to shave their beards off.

  52. All this huffing and puffing about what the Ruskies are up to is enough to make a rational being throw up. Does anyone doubt that what the Russians are doing to us is not being done to them by the Western intelligence services? ‘Tis the oldest game in the book and ever will be. The second oldest game is to silence domestic unrest by provoking a war which is easy to win, but seldom is. That is how WW1 kicked off, and we all know how that ended up. A century on and we are still paying the price of that folly.

  53. The Apocolocyntosis of Martin Mcguinness. Pace Seneca. While I am on that subject let no-one forget the role the Americans played in funding the IRA and the reluctance of successive US governments to put a stop to it. Special Relationship? don’t make me laugh.or get me started for that matter.

  54. Stephen 1042
    I am not aware that the Americans or MI6 have tried to influence the Russian elections.

  55. Sorry I posted that before this:

    “US President Donald Trump’s one-time campaign chairman secretly worked for a Russian billionaire to assist President Vladimir Putin, the Associated Press (AP) news agency reports.
    Paul Manafort is said to have proposed a strategy to nullify anti-Russian opposition across former Soviet republics a decade ago.
    AP says documents and interviews support its claims about Mr Manafort.
    Mr Manafort has insisted that he never worked for Russian interests.
    He worked as Mr Trump’s unpaid campaign chairman from March until August last year, including the period during which the flamboyant New York billionaire clinched the Republican nomination.
    He resigned after AP revealed that he had co-ordinated a secret Washington lobbying operation on behalf of Ukraine’s ruling pro-Russian political party until 2014.
    Newly obtained business records link Mr Manafort more directly to Mr Putin’s interests in the region, AP says.

  56. Of course Stephen Putin is a fine man:
    Just ask anyone on the list below.

    Alexander Litvinenko
    Anna Politkovskaya
    Natalia Estemirova
    Stanislav Markelov and Anastasia Baburova
    Boris Nemtsov
    Boris Berezovsky
    Paul Klebnikov
    Sergei Yushenkov

  57. “A Crimean Tatar leader who has criticized Russia’s seizure of the Black Sea peninsula appears likely to face trial soon on what he says are spurious charges of separatism.

    Ilmi Umerov, deputy chairman of the Crimean Tatars’ self-governing body, the Mejlis, said he and his lawyer were informed on March 21 that the case against him had been sent to a court in Russia-controlled Crimea.

    He also said he has received the final written charges, a step that is often followed within days or weeks by a trial.

    Umerov, 59, was charged with separatism in May 2016 after he made public statements opposing Russia’s seizure of Crimea from Ukraine in March 2014.

    He denies the charges, saying he has the right to express his opinions freely.

    Russia took control of Crimea after sending in troops and staging a referendum considered by most countries worldwide as illegitimate.

    After the takeover, Russia adopted a law making it a criminal offense to question Russia’s territorial integrity within what the government considers its borders.

    RFE/RL contributor Mykola Semena went on trial in Crimea on March 20 on separatism charges he says are unfounded.”

  58. So Kremlin spokesman Dmitry Peskov has denied that Russia was preparing to annex territories in Donetsk and Luhansk oblasts occupied by Moscow’s proxies.

    And when you consider all the other things the Kremlin has denied (things that turned out to be — you know — like, true) well, then you can’t help but wonder if the annexation of the so-called Donetsk and Luhansk people’s republics might actually be on the table.

    After all, when the Kremlin denies that it’s doing something, it’s not a bad rule of thumb to pay a little bit more attention to that particular something.

    And then there’s all the, you know, stuff, that’s been happening lately.

    Stuff like Russia recognizing travel documents issued by separatist authorities.

    Stuff like Moscow encouraging the use of the ruble in the occupied parts of the Donbas.

    Stuff like Kremlin-backed warlords seizing mines, factories, and other enterprises owned by Ukrainian-registered firms.

    Stuff like Ukraine cutting off cargo traffic to the territories in retaliation.

    And stuff like Russia building up its armed forces near the Ukrainian border.

    In recent months, the last ties between and the Russian-occupied parts of the Donbas and the rest of Ukraine have been pretty much severed.

    It’s become clear as day that the much-maligned and deeply flawed Minsk peace process is finally dead in the water.

    And it’s become clear that Moscow’s Plan A — forcing the occupied territories back into Ukraine as a Trojan horse — has failed.

    So now Russia’s war on Ukraine is entering a new phase.

    The Kremlin may be preparing to annex the occupied territories. It may be preparing to recognize their independence. Or it may be preparing for a new offensive.

    But it is clearly preparing to do something.

  59. But perhaps we should understand?

    “Russia’s annexation of Crimea returned post-Soviet Russia to a narrative of imperial glory that stretched back to the days of Kievan Rus, the medieval state that was the forerunner of both Russia and Ukraine. In the 10th century, the great conqueror Prince Vladimir of Kiev converted his people to Christianity after being baptised, it is said, at the ancient Greek settlement of Chersonesus, in Crimea. The peninsula was thus the symbolic starting point of Russia’s membership of the Christian world. And it was Crimea that Catherine the Great annexed from the Ottoman empire without firing a single shot – asserting Russia’s new place as one of the world’s greatest civilisations.

    Of all the losses that accompanied the end of the Soviet Union, Crimea was perhaps the most haunting for Russia. As part of his quest to restore lost Russian glory, Putin picked up where Catherine the Great and Prince Vladimir had left off. After annexing the peninsula in March 2014, Putin announced that Crimea was the “spiritual source” of the Russian state. This gave Crimea “invaluable civilisational and even sacral importance for Russia”. Putin underlined his point last November, when he unveiled a 16-metre statue of Prince Vladimir outside the Kremlin.”

  60. stephen maybery – 10:42

    I agree. (see John McAfee at 09:07)

    Re: The oldest game: Until I read Machiavelli, Sun Tzu etc. ……

    I used to think that second oldest profession was stargazing (i.e. Astronomy) with first place being taken by er, um, well, you know… what Frank P used to try and police in Soho in his days as a tender young PC!

  61. stephen maybery – 11:13

    Recently someone gave me some post WW2 “Empire Youth Annuals” 1947 – 1952.
    It’s been a real treat reading them. It seemed to be an age of optimism, and the Commonwealth countries seemed to be prospering. All this despite the enforced austerity at home due to, in part, our ‘special’ ally. I still have my Ration Card somewhere.

  62. Please tell me it isn’t true:
    Department store [in Holland] criticised for using heterosexual rabbit family in Easter ads

  63. Westminster
    1/ mental Health issues
    2/ nothing to do with Islam
    3/ he is a perfect son said his dad
    4/ a lone wolf no one else involved , well not for a day or two until other things emerge.
    5/he played cricket and loved England no one could’ve suspected a thing
    6/ everyone shocked
    7/ he’s been let down by the authorities
    8/ there was no need to shoot him
    9/he never showed any interest in terrorist activities
    10/ on and on and on with the same old shit.

  64. And sorry of course how could I have missed out that Muslims are terrified of the right wing backlash

  65. What do you think will concern them most, the rape and abuse of 1400 white girls in Rotherham or an attack in Westminster on potentially a few scumbag MPs.

  66. John birch – 15:58

    Such minor irritations when compared to the Dutch horrors of promoting Easter using heterosexual rabbits.

  67. No word yet on the nationality or religion of the attackers.

  68. Marshal, no , it’s a complete mystery.
    My guess is right wing extremists, Brexiters, or Israelites. Or possibly Russians trying to undermine trump, or maybe support him.
    Or welsh nationalists, or Cornish separatists ,
    Must be one of that lot, I can’t think of anyone else.

  69. This suspected attacker certainly looks nothing like a Muslim does he? More like a normal, white, British Londoner, eh?

  70. It appears that the police knew the identity of the attacker, dear God, what is wrong with this bloody country? If the attacker is announced to be British, then I will finally go off my trolley.

  71. Amber Rudd.
    The priority of the government is the security of its people.
    Is it.
    I don’t think so.
    Empty words.

  72. John Birch,
    They think we are stupid and worthy only of their contempt. What has happend here in London merely underlines what Donald is trying to do on the other side of the pond.

  73. John 1828.
    The internet photos of the attacker on the stretcher show a bearded chap with a suntan.
    You are right he must be a Celt.

  74. Marshal Roberts.
    Marshal, must be a Celt? cheeky sod.

  75. “Amber Rudd.
    The priority of the government is the security of its people.”

    That being the case she should resign forthwith and take Liz Truss with her. For as long as those two are responsible for security and justice we won’t enjoy either.

  76. John birch @ 18:28

    One of the best postings on the massacre, John, and not only here.

    Unbelievable, the barbarian was close to the place where the extreme of one culture of our rainbow society met the mainstream of the other, just up near the Trafalgar Square, knew nothing about it, the crowds were as peaceful as one would expect, only the central line of the underground seemed more crowded, the reason for it the barbarian learnt on a train from London, the first thought of his was ‘could it be another ploy by the man in the Kremlin?’

  77. It was the 15:37 the barbarian was commenting, John, (gave you and uptick on the other blog, too), but the 18.28 isn’t bad either.

    Isn’t it weird we talk about a life changing event for the many involved as if it were an accepted part of our life today?

  78. Colonel Mustard @ 10:26

    That he knows how to say in French how to get to the place where he can buy a piece of fish is more than enough for the MSM fruitcakes to take him seriously, Colonel, that’s what most of their experts are all about.

  79. EC @ 09:07

    That’s someone who knows what he’s talking about, EC, a man like him isn’t really listened to, it’s the experts who know next to FA that rule the opinion forming today.

  80. Frank P @ 23:44

    Spot on, this piece by the omni-all one, Frank, except for one small omission, a surprising one considering his extensive knowledge of everything. The bombs that were dropped on London, the weaponry, the IRA used were manufactured by Putin directly. Why has he not mentioned it beggars belief.

  81. EC @ 18:04

    The newer versions of the original AK-47 are quite complicated, too, EC, the old model was the best, all it needed was an up-dating of the stock, few other bits, adding an attachment holder surrounding the barrel (a torch, a laser, a bayonet or whatever).

    If they were not so lethal, these weapons would qualify as works of art, this isn’t a joke, the barbarian has tried many, liked the look and feel of most of them.

  82. Frank P @ 23:10

    Explain, please, why you expected Baron to be overtaken by ‘a touch of schizoid rage’? He read it twice, nothing new there except for the inclusion of Jeffrey into the bleat.

    What the omni-all one doesn’t say is who was it that made the two villains he mentions in the piece to get so prominent, allowed them to enrich themselves, let them unpunished? Why not, what do you reckon?

    And please do try to respond. The barbarian has noticed you seldom respond, keep quiet for few days, then re-join the fray challenging the barbarian with another helping of the verbal vomit by the omni-all. Baron has told you he’s given up responding to him, no point really, the man is driven by nothing but pure hatred of things Russians, it’s an emotion, it can never serve as a base for objectivity, but it must appeal to anyone who’s prejudiced, right?

    What amazes the barbarian is the omni-all one hasn’t yet discovered a direct link between today’s atrocity at Westminster and Putin, still, give him a day or two, he may, it’s such a marvellous opportunity, and you would lap it no doubt.

  83. Apologies, as always, for the errors, tiredness mostly.

  84. Baron – 22:41

    It’s part and parcel of living in a big city. (Especially a city more populous than Scotland.)

    At least we don’t have that tw*t David INTDWI Cameron in Number 10.

    What is most alarming is that a man with just an agenda, a car and two knives can do so much damage.

  85. Another example, a fresh one, of the man of Kremlin mortal danger to us, Frank must be rejoicing seeing this, it confirms his prejudices are not for nothing, they do reflect reality so well, the omni-all will do a piece about it, he must, NATO should really hit the KGB colonel, who does he think he is …..

  86. RobertRetyred @ 00:07

    You recall what 18 determined men with little weaponry did in 2001 in NY, Robert?

    Should we really accept atrocities to be part and parcel of a modern rainbow Britain?

  87. I think I’ve said this before here but what gets me about these attacks is the enormous cost to us in psychological, liberty, and fear never mind the cost in financial terms.
    And what cost to them, a car a knife and a supporter of Islam.

  88. John 0649
    After 7/7, my children would not go by tube for a number of years. The mad bastard drove down the Westminster Bridge cycle lane an I will think a few times before taking my bike (power assisted) in the cycle lanes for a while.
    One sad thing is that they were forced to kill him.
    Those who attack Parliament are usually put to the rack.

  89. “Faukes confessed nothing the first racking, but did so when told “he must come to it againe and againe, from daye to daye, till he should have delivered his whole knowledge”

  90. Beware of politicians who promise to keep you safe, (whilst taking away the ability for you to defend yourself.) How would the jihadi of yesterday have fared if subjects had been able to defend themselves and shot him?
    And Hitchens on Monday’s story, the death of the traitorous, murdering terrorist Mcguinness and the future of NI’s minority protestant population in the Peoples’ Republic of Ireland.

    Of course today’s terrorist is tomorrow’s Mandela, suitably anointed and sainted by the appeasers of the future, the new Rudds, Trusses and Mays, we can confidently expect the present day Choudray’s and Hamzas to be lauded for their heroism and political vision in a future Britain as the founders of the theocratic Islamic State that we are becoming.

  91. Ok, this one is for the Colonel…

    I think “Godders” may have a point there.

  92. “Those who attack Parliament are usually put to the rack.”

    Really? I refer to my post of 09.47

  93. h/t James Delingpole‏ “The best piece you’ll read on Martin McGuinness.”

    “The morally illiterate obituaries to Martin McGuinness are just what he would have wanted” Douglas Murray

    Unfortunately this is behind their £wall. Pls could somebody do a cut and past job from the Spectatesman

  94. BBC local radio says it was a lone wolf attack.


  95. Murray on Mcguinness

    Well the obituaries for Martin McGuinness are in. And many are as morally illiterate as the man himself could have wished for. For instance, various obituarists have noted that the young McGuinness’s failure as a young man to get an apprenticeship as a mechanic started him off on the road to terror. Few of these eulogists have noted the many people across continents and generations who also failed to get apprenticeships (often for even more sectarian reasons) and yet strangely refused as a consequence to pick up some pliers and an Armalite and torture and kill their way to political power.

    Other obsequies have been even stranger. Alex Salmond, for instance – perhaps recognising a fellow nationalist – praised Martin McGuinness as ‘a friend of Scotland’.

    While recognising that Scottish Nationalists must claim their friends where they can these days, whatever his stance towards Scottish nationalism, McGuinness was not, of course, such a good friend to Scots. For instance he was not a friend to Peter Deacon Sime of Glasgow, shot by the IRA while on duty with the King’s Own Scottish Borderers in West Belfast in April 1972. The 22-year old Lance-Corporal Sime left a wife and an 18-month old child.

    Nor was Martin McGuinness a great friend to the Glasgow-born 21-year old Paul Jackson. On the 28th November 1972 the organisation McGuinness was then heading chose to put a bomb at Long’s supermarket on Strand Road in Londonderry. Gunner Jackson was part of a bomb disposal team which went to disarm the device, but it exploded when they arrived, shattering his skull and killing the married father of two.

    Nor was McGuinness a good friend to John Gibbons of Edinburgh who was killed on 5 May 1973 by a roadside bomb planted in Armagh by the IRA. Trooper Gibbons was 22 and married with one child.

    Details, I know. But the list can – and does – go on and on. Not just the list of Scots, but the list of people from across these islands who lost their lives because of the IRA. And though one might have endless admiration and indeed awe for those people who lost a loved one and learned how to forgive the murderers, it requires an act of exceptional moral presumption to forgive the murderers on behalf of the bereaved, as our society now seems intent on doing.

    ‘But what about the violence on all sides’ some people keep demanding, as though those of us who deplore one set of murderers must by some necessity approve of another. This historical and moral ignorance matters, because it is at moments such as this, in consideration of past violence, that our attitudes towards present and future violence will be formed.

    Presently it is being made to appear as though there is something not just uncharitable but churlish in not admiring a man who spent the best years of his life torturing and killing people only then – when the possibility of achieving his ‘goal’ looked further off than ever – for the same man to choose not to torture and kill people any longer. As I have pointed out many times over the years, the people to be admired in the Troubles are not the ones who butchered people and then decided to stop butchering people, but the people who never started butchering people in the first place.

    My new colleague Stephen Daisley seems to regret the inability of people like me to recognise that it was only the people with guns who had power to give up. But if such regret exists it is because many of us with knowledge and experience of the conflict in Northern Ireland can point to too many people who abjured violence and thuggery throughout and who were continuously and consistently cast aside by a political process which seemed at times almost deliriously intent on rewarding the men of violence. To us it does not appear an inevitability that all that hatred should have been whipped up for all those years by the likes of Martin McGuinness and Ian Paisley only for the two of them to reconcile at the last and carve up all the political power between themselves. Whether or not the devil has the best tunes, he definitely turns out to have the darkest jokes.

    As the obituaries of his ‘chuckle-brother’ also showed, McGuinness was fortunate to live into an age of such moral ineptitude. Like Gerry Adams and Alex Salmond, he lived into an era when you just had to talk the language of left-wing social justice to persuade a new generation of people that your life’s ambitions had mainly been in the realm of LGBT equality and a reduction of the wage-gap in order for your lifelong pursuit of bitter and bloody sectarian conflict to be overlooked. Even more strangely it is the victims of McGuinness and his organisation (like Lord Tebbit, who lives every day with the effects of the IRA’s ‘war’) who are now portrayed as the ‘ungenerous’ and hard-hearted ones.

    Yet there is one bright light. For now that McGuinness is gone, perhaps we will finally get to the bottom of some other truths about him and his career and why he was indeed so very lucky. As I pointed out in the Spectator six years ago, the British government somewhere has the files on McGuinness’s involvement in multiple murders, in particular his involvement in the killing of Frank Hegarty. The government of John Major deliberately ‘disappeared’ these files in order to pursue their negotiations with the almost defeated IRA (the now textbook example of snatching defeat from the jaws of victory). And as I imply in my book on the Bloody Sunday Inquiry there are many facts around McGuinness’s involvement on that and many other days which are yet to come out. They were never going to come out in McGuinness’s lifetime, but perhaps we can now hope that they will come out in ours.

  96. Umm. Wolves return to Westminster? We have much to thank the liberals and the eco warriors for.

    I dislike the term ‘lone wolf’, I don’t like being considered a judas goat staked out by my ‘elected representatives,’ no matter how solicitous of my safety they profess themselves to be.

    No doubt it will transpire he was devout, on benefits, dutifully collected the jizya.

    “loan rat” perhaps?

  97. Noa 0949
    But you use the rasping tongue and acerbic pen, not gunpowder and knives.

  98. Skunk

  99. The wolf/rat I mean.

  100. Marshal Roberts – 07:51

    No jihadis required. If only cyclists in London and elsewhere would…

    Stop cycling on the pavements, shouting at and endangering pedestrians.
    Stop weaving around traffic especially at road junctions.
    Obey speed limits, traffic signals, and the Highway Code generally.
    Failing the above, Carry a donor card 😉

    As for the burgeoning numbers of the undead driving “mobility scooters” full pelt, terrorising pedestrians in town centres… Don’t get me started on those ‘rards!

  101. Noa – 10:06

    Thank you.

  102. From DW (Deutsche Welle)

    Assange: ‘Only 1 percent of the CIA material has been published’

    More popcorn in the TV lounge please, nurse.

  103. EC,
    If for nothing else you deserve a commendation for your 10-50. If the jihadists are to come to this country, blessed by those in authority who are all too eager to turn a blind eye to their antics, they could at least do us the courtesy of blowing the crap out of cyclists who are convinced the rules of the road do not apply to them and pedestrians are a legitimate target.
    Apologies for any and all spelling mistakes, it’s the fuking yank spelling on this site, does my friggin ‘ead in.

  104. Oh dear!

    Theresa May says ‘Islamist’ Westminster Attack ‘Not Islamic’
    The Prime Minister has said the “Islamist” attack on Parliament was not “Islamic” and Islam is a “great faith”.
    Taking on the role of a theologian, Theresa May insisted: “It is wrong to describe this as Islamic terrorism. It is Islamist terrorism. It is a perversion of a great faith.”

    Speaking in Parliament, she also said the attack showed “the importance of all of our faiths working together, and recognising the values that we share”.

    I think sticking to Brexit would be a good tactic for her to follow, even a good strategy. 🙂

  105. RobertRetyred – 17:16

    We have been betrayed. It doesn’t matter which party is in office they, and much of the Whitehall and the Westminister bubble, are all traitors in equal measures. I knew Treezer was a dhimmi when she donned that headscarf to meet “community leaders.”

    Three cheers for Marine Le Pen who when asked to wear one, told them in no uncertain terms to “va te faire foutre!”

  106. EC – 17:44

    For some unknown reason, I am reminded of the saying, ‘It is better to keep your mouth closed and let people think you are a fool than to open it and remove all doubt.’.

    I can’t think why! 🙂

  107. Flabbot on BBC;

    Nauseating. Is it on You Tube yet? FMOBB!!

  108. Earth has not anything to show more unfair;
    Dull would he be of eye who could pass by a sight so touching in its infamy.
    This City now doth like a Hijab wear the horror of this dawning: silent bare.
    Ships, towers, mosques and minarets lie
    Open unto the fields, and to the sky.
    Gunpowder, bloodstains and bits of bodies, DNA lie.
    Still reeking in the morning air.

    Never did Sun more manifestly steep in its first splendour
    Evil shock and ill.
    Ne’er saw I, never felt, an anger so deep.
    The blood stained River glideth at its own sweet will;
    Dear God, both Upper and Lower Houses seem asleep
    And all that mighty Parliament is lying – still.

    [Not penned by William Wordsworth on Westminster Bridge Sep 3rd 1802 – but then he was into revolutions, wasn’t he?]

  109. As I remarked earlier (CHWs passim)

  110. “As I look ahead, I am filled with foreboding. Like the Roman, I seem to see “the River Tiber foaming with much blood”. That tragic and intractable phenomenon which we watch with horror on the other side of the Atlantic but which there is interwoven with the history and existence of the States itself, is coming upon us here by our own volition and our own neglect. Indeed, it has all but come. In numerical terms, it will be of American proportions long before the end of the century Only resolute and urgent action will avert it even now. Whether there will be the public will to demand and obtain that action, I do not know. All I know is that to see, and not to speak, would be the great betrayal.”

    Enoch Powell, 20th April 1968

    He never would have imagined the catastrophic impact, on what used to be England, of the mass immigration resulting from Heath’s and then Blair’s & Brown’s treachery!

  111. Masood was a married father-of-three, former English teacher and a religious convert who was into bodybuilding, according to Sky News.
    A Scotland Yard spokesman said this afternoon: ‘Masood was also known by a number of aliases. He was not the subject of any current investigations and there was no prior intelligence about his intent to mount a terrorist attack.
    A number of aliases ????
    One for each benefit claim.
    Surely not.

  112. Exactly how can you revise a death toll from 5 to 4.
    It’s not some god forsaken battlefield with people lost in the mud.

  113. If the barbarian were younger, still looking for a trade, going into candle manufacture or flower growing would be the thing.

    Apologies for the flippancy, it may not be warranted, it seems though that it’s quite apt given the response our leaders favour, nothing on the horizon what would suggest this may change.

    It is said there are some 15 hundred individuals, the common denominator being presumably members of a certain religious school, who may do us harm if they were not watched over, the cost must be more than pocket money, past evidence points their number is growing, we’re just about to de-couple from Europe, the future’s uncertain, tourism was one of the solid earners for the country, how many will decide to change the destination for their next holiday?

    It may sound like exaggerating, but it isn’t. Imagine what would happen to the sales of baked beans if increasingly some buying the stuff were to be in danger of losing their life, would the sales of the nutriment boom or sink? The ‘ealth&safety’ would be on the makers, asking them to recall the cans, punishing them, possibly forcing them to close down. That’s what is likely to happen with baked beans, if the procedure followed that of the atrocities, the response would be a candle vigil every time anyone consuming the pulses were to drop dead.

    Recently, The Germans expelled two would-be jihadists to the country of their parents. Couldn’t we consider something similar? The family of anyone committing an act adjudged to be a terrorist act should be automatically shipped back to the country it (or its predecessors) came form. It may seem barbarous, but Baron reckons it would be a powerful deterrent to anyone thinking of embarking on the jihadi track. After the Israelis decided to burn down the dwelling of the family that incubated a terrorist, the number of incidents dropped noticeably. A similar outcome would be likely if we did expel the families of those intending or actually doing us harm.

    If not, there may come a time there won’t be enough candles to go round.

  114. Second para: … that would suggest..third para: .. membership of a certain, forth para … punishing (not pushing) them … And that’s just what he noticed himself, sorry.

  115. John birch @ 19:25

    It’s quite believable, John, the guy was as ordinary as the many other followers of Allah, converts or not, one meets, yet it makes it that much more scary. How could one tell, more to the point, how could the authorities tell?

    Here, they should have been smarter, he had misbehaved before, if the procedure the barbarian suggested at 20:11 were followed he wouldn’t be here (it assumes, of course we would have a proper control of our borders, not the shambolic control operated by the Brussels fruitcakes).

  116. EC @ 19:23

    One would hope those in governance would have got the message by now that one cannot built a society on diversity of cultures, particularly cultures that are polar opposites from each other re governance, only a cultural unity, a genuine one, not the fake one concocted in the verbiage of the gnomes of politics, could guarantee a society at ease with itself.

  117. RobertRetyred @ 17:59

    The great Joseph posted on the story on the Guido’s blog, at 17.00 hours today, three hours ago, already got 80 upticks. Have you seen it, Robert. Good man, he, nothing escapes him.

  118. EC @ 17:44

    One can have a smidgen of sympathy with the saintly One, EC, she didn’t set the rainbow train rolling, she’s only maintaining its direction, who knows how willingly.

    Those who started it, couldn’t have imagined that there will appear a sizeable and growing bunch of people amongst out midst, who will refuse to subscribe to their progressive project, will push for an alternative, and push not only within the legal framework put together by the anointed, but outside of it, too.

    Many of the statutes that we’re governed under tie the hands of those in power, they’re stuck, nobody wants to do the Donald (they cannot really, they would look at least silly doing a U-turn, at worst lose their cushy sinecures), the only way out is to vote someone in who isn’t tarnished with this rainbow crap of building a cohesive society.

    But is there anyone anywhere close to the Donald? One can hardly dig up Enoch, can one.

  119. That’s how it feels, but the MSM are likely to switch again soon telling us about the threat from Putin’s Russia. They have to for they are either unwilling or unable (or both) to face up to what will be the undoing of us, sooner or later, whatever the Ruskies do.

  120. ‘A couple of’ not ‘a could of’, sorry, it’s not Baron’s fault, yet you have to suffer.

  121. Two other atrocities today, in Foggia Italy and Antwerp, both predictably by North Africans.
    But the Weatminster attacker was from Kent for Gods sake.
    Not Luton, Bradford, Leeds or even Tunisia.
    The Garden of England.

  122. Could someone answer a simple equation?

    Why wasn’t the Police Constable Keith Palmer, the 48-year-old husband and father, armed? Apparently, he was guarding the only allowable entrance to the House, the level of the threat is the highest ever, and he stood there without an arm?

  123. If you answer then please answer the ‘question’, not the ‘equation’, sorry. The barbarian is signing off, he’s done enough damage to the language of the bard today.

  124. EC
    March 23rd, 2017 – 17:44

    I enjoyed your news about Marine Le Pen telling someone “va te faire foutre!”.

    I’ve checked on the various translations of it, but to my ears it translates best as – “Go and get yourself f****d”.

    I like to think that it was directed at a pink-hatted vocal female, because in such a case it would carry extra overtones that are especially apropos.

  125. Baron 21-06

    Cressida Dick.

  126. Cressada Dick , Chief of the Met Police Service , failed to put an armed guard at the gate entrance to Parliament .

    Mayor Sadiq said she was the `best possible person`.
    Amber Rudd , Home Secretary , said she is ` an exceptional leader `.

    Pay and Benefits : £5,204+ per week.

  127. Radford NG (23:19)

    Not a Commissioner in sight today; has Ms Dick taken over, yet? Or is it a ‘twixt and ‘tween cock-up (so to speak)?

    Does anyone remember the GOD (no not Him – The Good Old Days) of Melanies blog, when she took the H.O.C. protection detail to task after some idiots scaled the walls? Those were the days! They should have paid attention.

    Wonder what she has to say today, EC? Must pop over and look at her ‘tweets’, no pun intended. 🙂

    Oh Dear, Cressida. Not a good start, if you’ve received the baton already!

    Don’t even think about it EC! 🙂

  128. Baron @ 21:06

    Good question

    Better question: why not restore the right to bear arms?

  129. Frank P : 00-03

    No Commissioner at the Met.
    Deputy Commissioner in charge.

    So orders should still come down to Hogan-Howe’s watch.

    So who is responsible for this situation? Some combination of Mayor Khan and Home Sec. Rudd ?

    Telegraph article (not on £/Premier web).

  130. EC

    In search of Melanie’s tweets, I found this. A worthwhile visit to her new platform (available still on our sidebar):

    Time to remember our renegade roots.

    Given Don Trumpo’s problem with his tweets, I’ve decided that it would be one affliction too many for me. So please keep me posted about hers.

    This Obamacare/Trumpcare battle is a Godsend to the Dems/Never Trumpers.Why don’t they learn anything from our weaponised NHS? The GOP is ripping itself to pieces. Fools!

  131. ‘BOMBSHELL: CIA Whistleblower Leaked Proof Trump Under “Systematic Illegal” Surveillance Over Two Years Ago: FBI Sat On It’

    ‘NSA To Provide “Smoking Gun” Proof Obama Spied On Trump’

  132. Malfleur : 00-43.

    Now you mention it :

    In 1793 the Mayor of Nottingham shot dead a member of a Tory mob attacking his house .

    He was praised for upholding an Englishman’s right to defend his home. A certain Blackner , in his `History of Nottingham` (1815) claims it , as an inalienable right of all Englishmen, the right to defend their own property even if it comes to killing people who may be presumed to be attacking it.

  133. Radford NG (00:45)

    Thanks for that; due to erratic health issues, I’m losing track of NSY. Must try to wrench myself from FNN and get back to knobbing Sky and the Beeb. But after watching agitprop snce the early 50s, I need a rest. All my contacts at the Big House are now either part of the Hades Crime Squad or The Celestial Criminal Intelligence Service. For some reason I am still in limbo, obviously pre-punishment is not yet complete. Watching current geopolitical madness unfold is obviously ” l’epreuve du Feu.”

  134. … meantime – back to FNN:

    Eric Bolling is in for BO’R tonight. Trouble at t’mill over last night’s talking points? Hmmnn.

  135. Baron, Radford, I would not blame Cressida Dick.
    Her boss, Rambling Rudd must have walked past this guy every day.

  136. What is it about Putin and Presidential elections?

    “Marine Le Pen has approved Russia’s takeover of Crimea and wants EU sanctions lifted
    France’s far-right presidential candidate Marine Le Pen is in Russia for talks with senior officials.
    In Moscow, the National Front (FN) leader will meet Russian MPs, but it is not clear whether she will also hold talks with President Vladimir Putin.
    Ms Le Pen favours strong links between France and Russia, and wants the EU to lift sanctions imposed on Moscow over the annexation of Crimea from Ukraine.
    The Kremlin also looks favourably on Ms Le Pen, a BBC correspondent says.
    Ms Le Pen’s visit – her fourth to Russia since 2011 – comes ahead of the two rounds of French presidential elections on 23 April and 7 May.
    Each time she has been treated in Moscow with the kind of respect that few other capitals are prepared to give her, the BBC’s Hugh Schofield in Paris says.”

  137. Just who is in charge at the Met ?

    The acting Commissioner has been withdrawn from the case as he was a witness to the attack.

    Mark Rowley , head of counter terrorism policing , is acting deputy commissioner.
    He has stated : ” ….Our muslim communities will feel anxious…..given the past behaviour of the extreme-right wing “.

  138. Mark Rowley of the Met warns about extreme-right wing.

  139. So Mark Rowley will now be withdrawn from the case for having similarly disqualified himself?

  140. Adrian from Kent. Hmm.

    I recall that the one English Pope was called Adrian.
    Really a sock puppet for Nicholas Breakspear.
    He dissuaded Henry II from getting involved in the Iberian crusades.

  141. Radford NG 0803


    “The Acting Commissioner Craig Mackey is being treated as a significant witness as he was at the scene when the incident started. Whilst he is not injured, it would be inappropriate for him to talk about the incident at this stage. Ours and his thoughts are with all those involved and those responding to both incidents.”

  142. Marshal Roberts – 06:21

    “What is it about Putin and Presidential elections?”

    One might also be tempted to ask, “What is it about the BBC and elections?”
    The author, “a BBC correspondent”, disqualifies themselves from further serious consideration by immediately invoking the term “far-right.” It’s one on the primary markers of a fake news organisation. The rest of the article doesn’t disappoint either.

    The FN is, of course, primarily a socialist movement.

    How does Marine Le Pen visiting Moscow constitute Mr Putin interfering in the French election, as you implied?

    Not that you’d ever catch the Yanks interfering with foreign elections, though, eh? We are all greatly indebted to President Obama putting in a personal appearance in the UK days before the referendum last June 23rd. His hectoring speech, telling us to “vote remain, or else…” really swung it for BREXIT 🙂

  143. Mark Rowley (head of counter terrorism) was mildly taken to task the other week by John Humphreys on the `Today` programme [Radio 4] for muddying the waters by describing the death of Jo Cox MP as an act of terrorism.

    Rowley,the State appointed anti-terror officer,based his defence on statements from other state police persons, the state prosecution service and the state appointed judge: this is all a closed circle. Doubts were raised about this at the time (not to go into them now).

    Simular comments were made by the same rank of state agents about the Birmingham 6 and the Guildford 4 : innocent people sentenced to `life`for the crimes of Martin McGuinness.

    Currently the state agents ( from Teresa May down ) are in denial as to the real problem and are always linking actual terrorism to fantasized far-right extremism.

    The `Today` item can be heard at 15:42 on the item below :

  144. Herbert Thornton, March 23rd, 2017 – 22:11

    Just for you!

  145. Very Fake News – latest examples from CNN,MSNBC and ABC

  146. Richard Littlejohn says smug MPs sowed seeds of terror

  147. Deja vu or we’ve been here before.
    Mr Boot cries out in the wilderness about the vacuum of leadership in Britain and the West.

  148. Good! 🙂

    May ‘FINALLY set to block EU access to British fishing waters if Brexit talks fail’
    THERESA May is reportedly preparing to deny EU vessels access to British fishing waters if Brexit talks break-down.
    The Prime Minister is set to announce Britain’s withdrawal from the London Conventions Act 1964 – which gives Brussels states access to between six and twelve nautical miles from the UK’s shores, according to the Times.

    The London Convention would allow a number of European states to access the UK’s fishing grounds even if the EU’s Common Fisheries Policy is torn up as it pre-dates Britain’s entry into the crumbling Brussels bloc.

  149. UK fishing rights: Come on chaps, we need 60K more signatures to ensure this is debated in parliament.

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