This is the Coffee House Wall for this week. I won’t say that it is your chance to communicate with us, as we are all in this together. It is, nevertheless, the Conservative Blog post that has no particular theme, and where everything is on topic. Let’s just remember that we want to avoid ad hominem attacks on others. We don’t want to engage with trolls. We want to moderate our language ourselves as responsible and mature adults, choosing to use fruity language only where it is necessary. This is our opportunity to show what the Spectator Coffee House Wall could have been like.
Where have all the comments gone!
Well, we have been hacked by an Arabic hacking group who would seem not to approve of our views.
I have re-installed the site but will need to put in place other measures which I won’t describe here, but which will include a daily backup so that we don’t lose as many comments as we have this time.
I suppose that I didn’t think we would be attacked, but it is at least a sign that we are noticed in some quarters.
Non illigitemus carborundum as the Roman would have said, or as Churchill might have put it, “We will fight them on the blogsites we will fight them in cyberspace, we will never surender”, even if Theresa May already has.
Well done Peter to get the site up and running so quickly. I don’t think it was done for much more than 40 minutes.
Keep your head down and your spirits up.
As for the hackers song about “free Palestine”: Jordan is Palestine.
See: http://www.meforum.org/3121/jordan-is-palestinian
Interesting!
I suspect that this might be because of my post (or is that too arrogant?). Still, the point is, they don’t like the truth.
Islam is a political belief system that is opposed to freedom of thought and freedom of speech. Its actions and beliefs are so abhorrent to any right-minded person that they will automatically oppose it. Thus, the brainwashed cretins will attack Islams opponents rather than consider why they are opposed.
Keep up the good work – I have my post safe and sound and will repost as soon as appropriate. They will not prevail because the truth is that any person who follows the insane rantings of a 6th century pervert is surely doomed to fail in whatever course they choose.
As an atheist, I care not a jot for their beliefs, but they might consider that no omnipotent creater could possibly lay out such a bleak path for its adherents. They might consider why they suffer so many setbacks. They might consider why they are so hated.
They might conclude that even their own God thinks they are a bunch of little sheet heads!
I have copies of all the comments, they get sent to me by email. So I will try to reconstruct the last week or so.
These days, the slightest hint that humans’ genetic makeup has anything whatsoever to do with human characteristics (unless it relates to something superficial such as skin colour) is automatically denounced by that particular form of stupidity called Politial Correctness as “racism”.
I should have thought that genetic makeup is, when assessing human characteristics, the most important factor of all.
It makes me wonder how the political correctness is going to react to this –
http://www.livescience.com/19692-genes-brain-size-intelligence.html
As I wrote elsewhere (Voting in UK) the BBC News 24 channel has given full coverage of the Brievik trial in Oslo,claiming he gave a far right-wing salute.He can currently be seen on the BBC News Homepage giving a clenched fist communist salute.Or,indeed,a Black Power salute.
Death and Taxes from Sunny TV:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=ae8Y4zhPuy4
Funny Sunny.
Radford NG – I think it’s the Black Power salute that preceeds all that fancy hand-slapping.
Peter from Maidstone
April 16th, 2012 – 18:11
“The DT is saying the same thing, that a raised clenched fist is a ‘right-wing salute’. Since it is clearly not one wonders why they have decided to lie.”
Yes, they are liars and it is seems strange.
I refuse to accept that the ‘DT’ or the BBC honestly HAVE forgotten what a ‘Solidarity’ / ‘Black Power’ salute looks like. How can they pretend to have forgotten what the ‘Siege Heil’ looks like?
‘The Evening standard’ had the clenched fist on it’s front page this evening. This newspaper is now free in the evening. Free. So, it’s costing someone money to ‘get the message out’*. The objective of all MSM is the manipulation of public awareness to serve the NWO Agenda. This includes films,tv, theater, public exhibitions, radio etc etc
So, as if you didn’t know, they have decided to lie as it serves the Agenda.
As they telling tell blatant lies regarding the murders of so many innocent people; what wouldn’t they tell blatant lies about?
No thinking person can believe anything the MSM says about anything. Everything they print of importance is a part of the Agenda.
*Don’t accept advertising revenue covers costs. It’s apolitical not economic exercise.
“Asian policeman who lost wife after he was jailed for crime he didn’t commit” from The Daily Mail.
Asian. Code for Paki. If he had been Indian or Sri Lankan or Nepalese, etc., his nationality would have been printed.
The virtually unanimous assessment in the media of the Brievik trial concentrates on the wickedness of Brievik and on a gesture that he made which they loudly proclaim to be that of ‘right-wing extremism’.
The Brievik trial is being given considerable attention in the media, but it seems to be a very narrow kind of attention.
Brievik clearly states his reasons – namely the presence of an extremely dangerous elephant in the room. The elephant is Islam.
Yet the media are bending over backwards to play down his reasons. So much so that it amounts to their proclaiming – “There is no such Islamic elephant and even if there may be one, it is a nice, friendly, cuddly elephant.”
Some people say that Brievik is insane. That’s as may be – but is not the real insanity that which prevails in the media and among politicians?
Herbert Thornton … These are the same people who think the BNP is “far right”. In a way, you have to feel sorry for Nick Griffith. How is he ever going to marshall the far left for votes when his potential voters are misled to believe that he is far right?
Verity
Logic, my dear Verity. The world is round, and if you keep proceeding right you will eventually finish up where you began, but on the left……….hic!
I wish there was a way we, P from M, could contact Bouidicca. She’s a right thinker and a fine writer. Every time she posts on one of The Telegraph blogs, she gets dozens -sometimes in the neighbourhood of 100 – of “Liked” clicks.
No. How would I communicate with her? I thought she might be connected to UKIP because of the clarity of her thinking on Europe, but someone said they had tried to find her at UKIP and couldn’t.
P from M, Nigel is the Leader of a nationl party and he is also our representative in Brussels. I am sure he isn’t able to answer all the calls he gets. How about just writing to the UKIP website and asking? She is a damn’ fine writer and it would be great to read her posting here!
I went to the site, and the contact address is mail@ukip.org Over to you, as the owner of the The Coffeehouse Wall!
I meant to mention this earlier and forgot, but ran into a couple of Americans today, and they said that Obama is the most controlling (and out of control) president ever.
They cited, as a small example, the new form that you have to fill in to renew your passport. Not only do they, naturally, ask for the names of your parents, but the NAME AND ADDRESS of your mother’s doctor when she was pregnant with you, PLUS how many times your mother visited that doctor during pregnancy!
Whoah! That’s what you call a “neighbourhood organiser”.
They live in the neighbourhood somewhere and if I run into them again, I will ask some more about this passport form.
Has Pete Hoskin left the Speccy? No posts for ages. Hope he’s not ill again.
If he’s still there, Verity, I’m sure he would forward an email to Boudicca if you asked him.
Frank P – Hello. Pete has a piece in The Speccie today, so he seems to be hale and hearty enough!. P from M could write to her c/o Pete at The Speccie, as you say. Whether Pete would be interested in promoting the interests of a blogger who has nicked so many of The Speccie’s regulars, who can say?
AWK – Just saw your comment on Rod Liddle’s column . I, too, love these beautiful, mysterious, iintelligent, affectionate, cunning, confident and altogether wonderful little individuals. Cats. Rod Liddle must be a dog person.
Another reason not to return to England, Verity – it’s not just the people who are being turned into robots:
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2130472/The-disease-turning-British-cats-living-robots–experts-say-theres-cure.html
Yes, thanks, Malfleur; I saw this. Clearly something that is being done in the local environment, as the newspaper indicated. It’s a silly headline. It is not “British” cats. It is a few cats in a tiny area of Scotland only and it looks as though it’s a militant virus carried by mice or voles in this tiny area.
Verity 17th, – 01:20
“Rod Liddle must be a dog person.”
He is.
In a new poll, according to The Mail, UKIP has overtaken the LibDems. Several of the commenters have noted that this has not been mentioned on BBC News.
I’m cross-posting this from Boudicca in today’s Telegraph … (that’s a polite way of saying I lifted it without permission …) She wrote it in response to Ed West’s piece, the link to which I’ve posted below.
Herewith Boudicca: “Those whom the Gods wish to destroy, they first make mad.
“The Political Elite of the UK (indeed most of Europe) since WW2 have collectively been mad. And, its looking increasingly likely that before very long they will be destroyed.
“The long-suffering British voter has just about had enough of LibLabCON and its obsession with the EU; the ECHR; mass immigration and multiculturalism; sleeze; political correctness and PR spivery and an out-of -touch puppet Parliament that does nothing except bleed the working people more and more in persuit of its cosy consensus on virtually everything that the British people disagrees with.
“The times they are a changing ….. UKIP overtook the LibDems in a YouGov poll for the first time yesterday – up to 9%. In the crucial 60+ group which is the largest and also the most likely to vote, we went to 17% – a new high.
“If you want change; if you want your country back; if you want the consensus of LibLabCON destroyed, you know who to vote for.”
Posted from Ed West’s excellent column on mono-occular Captain Hookworm here: http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/news/edwest/100151436/abu-qatada-is-a-microcosm-of-everything-thats-wrong-with-the-system/
P from M — The current thinking is that a vote for UKIP is a wasted vote. It’s a short-sighted, impractical point of view because voting for a party you don’t really want (as opposed to the party of your inclination), is a wasted vote.
I think if all the people who wish UKIP had more ballast actually took a deep breath and voted for them, it would have more weight and a bigger presence … and all the scaredy cats who had previous thought voting for UKIP was a wasted voted would be encouraged to take a deep breath and vote for them.
I really don’t believe, P from M, that very many voters, except those in the City and similar enclaves (like the uniions) have faith in either of the two major parties … and UKIP has already overtaken the LibDumbs.
This from Richard Kay’s page in today’s DM:
PS: With the post of BBC director-general now being advertised, former Newsnight political editor Michael Crick has an intriguing insight into the personality of one of the frontrunners, George Entwistle, the Yorkshire-born director of BBC Vision. ‘Entwistle used to be my editor on Newsnight, and I vividly recall him saying that our job every day was to come in and ask ourselves: “How can we f*** the Government today?” ’ says Crick, now at Channel 4 News. ‘I thought it was a great maxim for journalists.’ But would prim BBC Trust chairman Lord Patten, who will ultimately determine the next D-G, approve?
Good thread: http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/news/danielhannan/100151515/as-long-as-the-eurosceptic-vote-is-fragmented-the-euro-enthusiasts-will-keep-winning/#disqus_thread
Boudicca puts several noses out of joint, but she gets high numbers of recommendations. When she speaks of UKIP, she says “we”, so I am sure, P from M that she can be reached there.
Thanks for that link Verity. There is enough discontent brewing for a rebellion but still no cohesive leadership for one. I nailed Hannan months ago. Redwood is another over-rated skunk who puts career before country and appeasement before courage. I was appalled by his tail-between-the-legs cowardice on QT when the subject of multi-culturalism came up. Farage needs to create the stimulus for open rebellion against this government, full on civil disobedience and non-cooperation. One of the comments there:-
“I don’t have a TV licence; I didn’t complete a census form; I take no notice of speed limits; I mock our verminous leaders whenever possible;I drink; I would smoke if I didn’t find the smell revolting; I laugh at the idea that homosexualitry is equal to heterosexuality; I like women; I like meat; I hate Islam, and I’m always open about all of this to anyone I meet.”
Bravo! The English as a people need to re-assert themselves or they are going to disappear.
Nicholas in the post above – “one of the comments there” … Where?
My own feeling from reading the press from abroad, Nicholas, is that Cameron is going to be an instrument for change, although not in the manner he had so vainly imagined.
I think there is such a swell of dislike of him, welling up through the ranks of all Conservatives that people feel there is nothing to be loyal to … that they have absolutely nothing in common with this greedy, vapid, vain man … and any reservations they would have felt about deserting a leader have evaporated already. I think this will be a cue for people to give UKIP, which is much closer to true conservative values than Cameron’s self-sserving clique is, a real chance.
And I don’t think Nigel will drop the ball.
About Hannan, I don’t have any fixed ideas. He is clearly very, very clever and a superior thinker to greedy Davie Dim. I think it is strange that he is not in UKIP.
“Nicholas in the post above – “one of the comments there” … Where?”
No Posts since 07.47 – what’s up?!
This from today’s ‘Torygraph’:
http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/news/edwest/100151556/a-historical-look-at-the-birth-of-islam/
The connection between the British businessman, Brian Heywood, who died in a Chongging hotel last November, and MI6 seems to have been quietly dropped from the latest news stories about the former Politburo member and Mayor of Dalian and Chongqing, Bo Xilai. More is being made of an alleged affair between the late Mr. Heywood and Bo Xilai’s wife, Gu Kailai; an affair supposedly avenged by her husband. The Dirty Mail has published a piece on a “shabby” “love nest” in Bournemouth without any named sources.The possibly contradictory motive for the alleged murder concerns the transfer of funds out of China on behalf of the Bo family. Other rumours are that the Englishman’s death was the result of Mr. Heywood’s body was cremated before an autopsy was performed; now allegations are being made that he was murdered with cyanide. With no autopsy results available, this allegation would therefore somewhat difficult to prove. Meanwhile, the Daily Telegraph’s correspondent in Chongqing, Malcolm Moore, reports that at least 39 people connected with Mr. Bo Xilai have been arrested. A Mr. Wang Kang is quoted to have said “The detainees are mainly people from Dalian and other places, not from Chongqing”. What they are charged with and how those in Dalian might be connected with a death in Chongqing is not explained. The Standard in Hong Kong has reported today that Gu Kailai is suffering from cancer which changed her character.
A sceptical mind, noting the impending “transition” of power at the top in China, might suspect a set up by Bo Xilai’s political enemies who are trying out various “narratives” on public opinion as they dismantle his faction. Perish the thought.
Headline of the day: “A fete worse than death” …
http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/news/petermullen/100151573/a-fete-worse-than-death-the-seething-hatreds-and-rivalries-beneath-the-surface-of-parish-life/
It’s by Peter Mullen. “I love the story of the near punch-up at the parish meeting in the holy and venerable village of Long Melford. “Shut your mouth!” and “One more word from you and I will thump you now!” And all over a villager’s criticism of another villager’s handling of the tombola draw.
Funny piece.
Verity 4/16 23.53. Your 2 Americans must have been San Francisco Republicans.
What people fail to realise is the profound effect on the psyche of main stream America that the 9/11 terrorists had.
Prior to this there had been no attack on mainland American territory since the Brits burned the White House during the war of 1812
After the Twin Towers, a powerful symbol around the world not only of the power of terror attacks but also of American vulnerability, life can never be the same. On the back of this all steps had to be taken to protect the Homeland. Bleeding hearts in cosy liberal Europe condemmed the Bush administation for enhanced interrogation techniques but information from waterboarding has undoubtedly saved British as well as American lives.
Nothing is for nothing. You want protection you pay a little toll in freedom for the greater good.
So to passports. Obama dont care a hill of beans that citizens have to fill a few more forms in if it weeds out those out to get the innocent. And rightly so.
There is a parallel in England where we read that the government wants to sift emails and phone logs to prevent a British 9/11. So the armchair heroes fill the media with libertarian falsehoods instead of thanking their lucky stars that they did not work in banking in New York in 2001.
“Prior to this there had been no attack on mainland American territory since the Brits burned the White House during the war of 1812”
Not so, there were Japanese attacks against the mainland US during the war. Both continuous balloon attacks and raids by aircraft launched from submarines, as well as coastal shelling. Minor, with very limited results admittedly but nevertheless attacks. Although not a “mainland” attack Pearl Harbor also had a profound effect on the American psyche – and still does.
“Bleeding hearts in cosy liberal Europe condemmed the Bush administation for enhanced interrogation techniques but information from waterboarding has undoubtedly saved British as well as American lives.”
And yet, at the height of WWII, with everything at stake, the British did not resort to torturing Nazi prisoners or agents. They did not succumb to the brutality of their enemy. Gestapo techniques of interrogation were abhorrent then as they are now to those of that generation. They operated on a very different moral plain and used an infinitely more subtle technique to discomfort their enemy. And ultimately they prevailed.
“So the armchair heroes fill the media with libertarian falsehoods instead of thanking their lucky stars that they did not work in banking in New York in 2001.”
That is itself a falsehood. The evidence makes it clear that the atrocity would not have been prevented by sifting emails and phone logs but rather by more traditional methods of intelligence and security. Those were found wanting. Indeed one could argue that the reliance on electronic eavesdropping and computerisation has diminished the critical human facets of intelligence. Besides it is no victory against terrorism to impose its threat upon a nation’s freedom. There are other methods of reducing the terrorist threat without spying on the whole population of Britain. But those would take a courage and a determination that neither the British nor US governments have the stomach for – and would have required more foresight about criminally reckless immigration policies.
I am no bleeding heart liberal and my armchair heroics are a necessary imposition of my age but I know enough to know that spying on emails and phone logs is not going to stop attempted terror attacks. That requires governments to admit what the problem is and to lower the boom on it accordingly – not to target the whole population in a mass-media fishing expedition, the practical achievability of which is doubtful and disputed anyway. The problem is militant and belligerent Islam demanding increasing intolerance from within tolerant Christian nation states, terror being just one of the weapons in its armoury, deployed by its most extreme.
John Jefferson Burns 19th, – 09:04
“Those who are prepared to sacrifice a little liberty to gain a little security deserve neither.” (or something like that)
Benjamin Franklin.
Left-wing salute? Right-wing salute?
Neither: corrupt politicians’ salutes:
http://www.bolognanotizie.com/news/2012/01/15/57474/lega-nord-bossi-affonda-maroni-incassa-e-risponde-trattasi-di-grana-padana/
Anders Behring Breivik’s trial is becoming an excuse for political purposes. The BBC today piously proclaimed that connections with the English EDL are strongly suspected, toegether with Templar Knights, bla, bla. I suggest that with the strange politicians and student agendas, with sympathy for muslim terrorist organisations, Breivik is in actual fact a commited member of the Taliband, or at the very least belongs to a muslim extreme movement based in Europe.
With reference to my posting above, found this, from all places “THE GUARDIAN”
“A report earlier this year by the Norwegian intelligence noted the increasing risk of a jihadi terrorist attack, with Norwegian citizens reportedly being trained abroad.
“Although few people in Norway support Islamic extremism, there are activities within some groups that could contribute to heightening the security risk in 2011,” the report said. Some individuals in Norway taken part in training or fighting in countries such as Afghanistan, Pakistan, Somali and Yemen, it added.
The we have the furious strikes organised by Israeli universities, the disturbance of concerts, and blacklisting of Israeli academic work, all orchestrated by Norwegian Student Unions
Clear Memories, Yes, it’s too arrogant. I hate to vie for the title as most destructive about islam, and I have written much more about islam than you, including mentioning that allah doesn’t exist and that the sand dune flea mohammad was an epileptic and a paedophile (and the muzzies see nothing wrong with that as it is mentioned prominently in their daft q’ran.
I would say “any sheet head reading this can kiss my arse” …. but ….eeewwwww! The world has four large, stable religions — Hinduism, Buddhism, Judaism and Christianity which answer the needs of the human spirit and are different paths to the truth. They all encourage independent thought – or at least don’t beat people up for having enquiring minds.
Mohammad was a paedophile who made a sin out of drinking alcohol, and promised jihadis who promoted him “rivers of wine” after they died for islam. How insane is that? And where did he get the number 72 from? Jihadis get 72 virgins. Why 72? And it doesn’t say much for the rights of women, does it, that 72 of them are to be sacrificed to insane murderers?
I’ve always wondered what happens to the virgins after these little jihadi pricks have had their way with them? Do they get pensions and housing? Jobs? Or are they just discarded after serving the ego of young jerks?
I would commend any destructive arab internet crawlers to address these questions in their own minds. I’m only trying to help.
“The we have the furious strikes organised by Israeli universities” should have read:
“Then we have the furious strikes organised by Norwegian universities”
By the way, muzzies in Britain and Europe, get rid of the Lawrence of Arabia outfits. You look ridiculous.
Also, I wonder if Paris has thought of high-powered fire hoses for the trottoirs on Fridays.
God (a real God), they’re vicious, destructive shitholes, aren’t they? All Peter’s work, thought, time, dedication to creating this excellent blog. No wonder no dog will go near them.
Scroll down to Ministers Ponder Creation of Super-President …
http://euobserver.com/18/115965
This EU thing has got to be destroyed right now. They are accomplishing what millions of innocent and heroic people died to prevent.
Cameron won’t vote to stop it … although he will say that he will, of course. Looking on the bright side, this is UKIP’s chance to scuttle Dave and the “Conservative” party for good.
Some thoughtful and informed comment for those interested in China in this sound-only podcast :
http://popupchinese.com/data/1139/sinica-muckraking-with-chinese-characteristics.mp3
‘4/16 23.53’
What is this gibberish?
John Jefferson Burns … I have absolutely no idea what thoughts your post is intended to convey and don’t intend to plough all the way through the turgid, diconnected mess to find out.
From today’s Mail, which is all in a panic about the Beeb fascist employees’ threatened strike during the Jubilee –
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2132034/Will-miss-Queens-Jubilee-BBC-staff-balloted-strikes-threaten-coverage-celebration.html
What the hell difference would it make? There are other anglophone countries whose TV broadcasting facilities know how to do hook-ups, live coverage etc., … in fact, many of them will be in Britain to cover the events.
In fact, let the BBC go on strike and demonstrate to the world how utterly pointless it is in a competitive world. In fact, coverage from some of the Commonwealth countries will be more positive and sneer-free that the stream of toxic fascism from the Beeb. And they’re all going to be over in Britain for it anyway.
Strike on! Let’s get some vivid demonstrations of how utterly pointless and outdated the BBC is.
One of the most brilliant pieces I’ve ever read on the delineation of today’s politics in the topsy- turvy world that has emerged over the past few years:
http://alexanderboot.com/content/politics-language-destroying-language-politics.
Exactly as planned, of course.
Peter. I just changed my browser to Mozilla Firefox and was obliged to re-register here; should that happen?
John Jefferson Burns
April 19th, 2012 – 09:04
Well done!
You win this week’s prize for getting ‘Obama’ and ‘passport’ into the same post without using ‘impeach’ or ‘illegitimate’.
Now, I’m looking forward to your response to the post by Nicholas.
PS “…..Obama dont care a hill of beans that citizens have to fill a few more forms in if it weeds out those out to get the innocent…”
Do you honestly think that filling in forms will stop a terrorist attack?
Could you please explain how that would work?
Verity 19th, – 14:19
Not as turgid or disconnected as the schoolteacher’s?
Apologies – delete “Tore” from last comment.
People over on The Speccie are saying AlQtada or whatever his desert flea name is, should be on a plane to Jordan by now.
I say, why waste the fare?
A single bullet is cheaper and, from a good marksman, the result is guaranteed 100%. It might be a fun touch to shoot him through the other eye. Anyway, either way. “Brain, meet bullet”. All I ask is that it be on TV and YouTube.
Verity (01:10)
You’ve got the wrong fella Verity. This one has both eyes in full working order and apparently one where his arse should be, because he saw Fuck-me-Shoes coming a mile off. Consequently, she’s probably at the end of her career at the Home Office – quite a long one these days for Home Sec. – most of them find out in a much shorter period that the Home Office is ‘unfit for purpose’.
You were thinking of Hooky, I guess. This one has more nous and a great deal more clout. And steady on, gal: inciting murder, even of a murderous muslim bastard, is a serious criminal offence – except for Muslim rabble- rousers, it would appear.
Yes, there are two fat, pyjama and kurta clad look-alikes emanating evil. I am amazed that anyone that repulsive could come from Jordan, which is a lovely country. I was thinkig of moving there at one point. I should have gone, given that its most disgusting citizen was resident in Britain.
Excellent thread on Obama and the Falklands from our friends over at Chicago Boyz …
I have added in all the posts from this thread. I’ll do the other threads in due course. Just want to take a back up now.
Here’s the link for my post of April 20 15:35 …
http://chicagoboyz.net/archives/29319.html
(If you add your comments to the Chicago Boyz post above, you would be doiing P from M a favour if you mentioned where you saw the link. )
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2132621/Illegal-immigrant-raped-young-woman-years-judge-ordered-deported.html#comments
So, what happens in Britain? A Somali rapist is found guilty, the judge orders him deported … and … three years later he is still in Britain and rapes another woman…? Surely “deported” means he be escorted from the court to a plane to some Somali crap hole, chained to his seat, and shoved off when it lands in Somalia.
In Britain, when scumballs are ordered “deported”, which seems to be a rare enough event in Britain that no one really understands the routine, does that mean that being deported is optional, and they can stay if they really want to?
Verity 20th, – 16:26
“shoved off when it lands in Somalia”
Why? Landing fees are an unnecessary expense. Offer him a parachute, them you can even claim to have provided him with accommodation on landing.
Ostrich (occasionally) — Yes, I see now that I didn’t think this through correctly. The plane would not necessarily be a flight to Mogadishu. It could just be passing through Somalian airspace (if any airline was that stupid. Maybe it would be Air Zimbabwe) and the plane could fly fairly low, a hatch could be opened and a shove administered and then the plane could gain altitude again. I guess, in order to comply with international law, he’d have to be issue with a parachute, but it could be a parachute manufactured in Mogadishu or Allahabad or some other centre of advanced technology.
Peter of M:
Peter, got in a couple of hours ago and saw what the barbarians had done to this Wall. Surely a living example of all they can do, destroy, ravage and despoil. Thanks to your ability, determination, hard work and refusal to be crushed, you have restored your creation. Those imbeciles attempted an Arab Cyberspace Spring, but instead just dug a deep hole of ignorance in which they should rot.
Verity 20th, – 19:19
That’ll do fine.
Know thine enemy:
http://spme.net/library/pdf/PurifyingtheWorld.pdf
Please read and disseminate this document; it is a comprehensive analysis by Ernest Sternberg of the transmogrification and multiplicity of the New Left and its unholy alliances.
Peter from Maidstone
Has Clear Memories’ blog on islamism’s record of murder of Hindus, and comments on it, been lost for good to the pro-palestinian hackers?
Verity
April 20th, 2012 – 14:27
Tongue largely in cheek, Verity. I know you do your bit with anti-muzzie insults, but my experience of the little sheet heads is that, by and large, they can live with insults.
What they cannot and will not tolerate, is detailed examination of their vile creed, its beliefs and its history. That is because they are well aware that, at every level, their belief system is indefensible in the modern world whilst their history just demonstrates the violent stupidity of the cults founders and early adherents. That is why there are no Muslim missionaries, just violent acolytes intent on forcing compliance.
If you want to mindfuck a Muslim, ask him to explain Ramadan. Point out that, as you approach the poles, the respective day/night ratios change to zero, so, slavishly following their hate manual, if Ramadan falls in summer in, say, Greenland, Muzzies starve whilst in winter, they can safely ignore its constraints as the sun never rises. They will tell you that the local Imam will advise of the times, based upon Mecca. Then point out that, as Allah knows everything (they even claim he knew the Earth was round), how come he didn’t now about the sunset/sunrise times elsewhere on the planet. Its usually at this point they get nasty.
Other than firearms, the way to beat down these scum is to pick apart their ‘perfect’ religion, one that has more holes and lies in it than a Livingstone policy statement.
Clear Memories, why bother to insult a cult that has as its instigator an epileptic paedophile? (No offence to epileptics, obviously, but, before the days of mass communications, and in a tiny desert village in the middle of nowhere and full of illiterates, a moderately wealthy man with the condition which caused him to go into mumbling trances, and start shaking in a cold sweat, would have been regarded as awesome.)
Given that he had money, plus the cold sweats and rambling statements that made no sense (no drinking alcohol, but post mortem “rivers of wine” for warriors who died for someone called allah, for example) would have had a certain pull on the attention of desert village dwellers of the 9th Century.
In fact, I can see the drama … with the chorus of village dwellers being awed by mo’ in one of his trances … being a fun musical called, oh, “Dune Dance” let’s say, with all original choregraphy and flowing robes which would look good in whirling moves.
Verity – I think you make my point for me.
Why bother with insults, and I explain why. Your explanation of the founding of Islam is as accurate as it gets, but not particularly erudite or referenced. MSM and mainstream opinion-formers cannot use what you post as the basis for reasoned argument, no matter how accurate you are – they facts and those facts must be cross-referenced and irrefutable.
Thereligionofpeace.com largely limits itself to verified reports of Islamic atrocities around the globe and is all the better for it. They offer explanations of aspects of Islam, all the time cross-referencing to the Koran, Hadiths or Fatwahs. This prevents sheet-heads taking issue – it becomes a one-way discourse, continually defeating, downgrading and weakening the desert cult.
Muslims do not have the ability to engage in intellectual discussion or reasoned argument – it is literally knocked out of them. If their 8 year olds were not physically abused by the ‘Teachers’, they would start to question what they were being taught. And once the kids start laughing, they’ll never stop. Hence the need to keep such a tight hold over their youth.
My view is that Islam has become more violent at the same time as the internet has grown and its shortcomings exposed on a much wider stage. The Rulers/Leaders have watched their youth become more westernised with growing alarm and have acted to close down the potential for debate by highlighting the more violent aspects of the creed, which are then enforced by the hotheads. It follows that exposure and debate will ultimately destroy these desert loons.
…and speaking of the factual content of Islam, “…author Robert Spencer’s Did Muhammad Exist? An Inquiry into Islam’s Obscure Origins (ISI Books, April 23, 2012) is a sober but unflinching look at the early days of one of the world’s major religions. Far from an anti-Islamic polemic, it brings to Islam the same standard of searching historical criticism that scholars have applied to Christianity and Judaism for more than two centuries”.
http://www.globenewswire.com/newsroom/news.html?d=252385
So Malfleur, it looks like Mohammed (Pissbeuponhim) is like all the other so-called founders of religions – a diddy man.
(As in Diddy exist? Diddy fuck!)
Here’s another dose of verified and verifiable truth destined to get our little sheet-head followers frothing. Tip to the Islamists, if you don’t like the truth, change it for the better, don’t suppress it. Because like your shitty religion, it will keep popping up.
WHY ISLAM IS THE MOST RACIST IDEOLOGY EVER CONCEIVED BY MAN? As you will read, Arabs believe they are a superior race and have the right to rape, torture, kill because the Quran being in Arabic non-Arabic people are inferior and are to be treated like slaves. This is sanctified by God in the Quran.
RACISM AND SLAVERY ARE DIVINE ETERNAL INSTITUTIONS OF GOD
All human beings, irrespective of race or color, are created equal in terms of rights and dignity. Assuming that one human being is lesser than another and worth being a slave or property of another person is abhorrent to civilized conscience. Slavery is one of the vilest institutions ever created by man. Slavery is a form of vile racism.
In Islam, God is a slaver, who sanctions enslaving other people by Muslims in the Quran. Prophet Muhammad was a slaver, who took 20% from the profits derived from the sale of slaves. He also owned 40 slaves. He beat and raped his slaves. He hated the Blacks and compared them to Satan. Some 120 million Blacks were murdered by Muslims, the greatest holocaust in history. Of hunted Black slaves, some 75% of them died on the way to Islamic markets. All Black male slaves were castrated. While most black slaves sent to the Americas could marry and have families, most of the male black slaves destined for the Muslim world were castrated. Millions more died in the unhygienic operation for castrating them, and most of the black children born to the women were killed at birth.
It was noted that black slaves were castrated “based on the assumption that the blacks had an ungovernable sexual appetite.
Below are some of the commands of Islamic God, sanctioning slavery:
Sura 2 (The Cow), Verse 178:
“O you who believe! retaliation is prescribed for you in the matter of the slain, the free for the free, and the slave for the slave, and the female for the female, but if any remission is made to any one by his (aggrieved) brother, then prosecution (for the bloodwit) should be made according to usage, and payment should be made to him in a good manner; this is an alleviation from your Lord and a mercy; so whoever exceeds the limit after this he shall have a painful chastisement.”
Slavery is mentioned in this verse as part of Islam’s criminal law clearly indicating that slavery is an eternal divine institution in Islam, a part and parcel of Islamic societies.
Sura 24 (The Light), Verse 31:
“And say to the believing women that they cast down their looks and guard their private parts and do not display their ornaments except what appears thereof, and let them wear their head-coverings over their bosoms, and not display their ornaments except to their husbands or their fathers, or the fathers of their husbands, or their sons, or the sons of their husbands, or their brothers, or their brothers’ sons, or their sisters’ sons, or their women, or those whom their right hands possess, or the male servants not having need (of women), or the children who have not attained knowledge of what is hidden of women; and let them not strike their feet so that what they hide of their ornaments may be known; and turn to Allah all of you, O believers! so that you may be successful.”
This is the famous Sura enjoining the veiling of women. Those before whom the Muslim women need not veil themselves are “those whom their right hands possess”, which means “slaves”. Again God mentions slavery in this verse as a part and parcel of Muslim households. Therefore, slaves are an inseparable part of Muslim societies.
Sura 23 (The Believers), Verses 1-6:
“Successful indeed are the believers, Who are humble in their prayers, And who keep aloof from what is vain, And who are givers of poor-rate, And who guard their private parts, Except before their mates or those whom their right hands possess, for they surely are not blameable.”
This verses not only sanctions the practice of slavery, but also gives the slave owner unfettered right to use female slaves sexual pleasures.
Sura 24 (The Light), Verse 32:
“And marry those among you who are single and those who are fit among your male slaves and your female slaves; if they are needy, Allah will make them free from want out of His grace; and Allah is Ample-giving, Knowing.”
This is said to sanction marriages of slaves with slaves and slaves with free persons (including the owner). Owners did not usually marry slaves as they could use them for sexual purposes at will. This dispensation has been used to make slaves marry other slaves. In Islam a child born to a slave couple also is a slave from birth, so this verse gives a great incentive to slave owners to breed slaves. This is another obnoxious aspect of Islamic slavery. Whatever be the other circumstances in which people are made into slaves to make a new-born infant a slave is one of the most cruel and callous. Ye this did not evoke a protest from the Prophet and has been extensively resorted to by Muslims.
Sura 16 (The Bee), verse 75:
“Allah sets forth a parable: (consider) a slave, the property of another, (who) has no power over anything, and one whom We have granted from Ourselves a goodly sustenance so he spends from it secretly and openly; are the two alike? (All) praise is due to Allah!”
This is one of the clearest instances where the institution of slavery is justified in the Quran as a divine dispensation. It deserves close scrutiny. This “parable” contrasts two people a slave who is owned by another and is completely powerless and a freeman on whom Allah has granted “a goodly sustenance” which he can spend openly or secretly as he pleases (perhaps acquiring slaves for himself). Since Allah claims for himself the position of the granter of all benefits (or lack of them) both the freeman’s fortune and the slave’s misfortune are ultimately determined by Allah. By his rhetorical question — “Are the two alike?” — Allah was actually justifying the inequality between the slave and the freeman as a natural thing. Thus a Muslim will have no compunctions or qualms in employing and exploiting slaves (subject only to any conditions that Muhammad may have imposed) because it is what Allah has ordained and “all praise is due to Allah”.
Sura 33 (The Clans), Verse 50:
“O Prophet! surely We have made lawful to you your wives whom you have given their dowries, and those [slaves] whom your right hand possesses out of those whom Allah has given to you as prisoners of war, and the daughters of your paternal uncles and the daughters of your paternal aunts, and the daughters of your maternal uncles and the daughters of your maternal aunts who fled with you; and a believing woman if she gave herself to the Prophet, if the Prophet desired to marry her – specially for you, not for the (rest of) believers; We know what We have ordained for them concerning their wives and those whom their right hands possess in order that no blame may attach to you; and Allah is Forgiving, Merciful”.
As stated before – here, as elsewhere, the term “possessions of the right hand” mean slaves. It is expressly stated that Muhammad’s slaves are given to him by Allah himself to be taken out of his share of the captives in war. It also records the special dispensation given to Muhammad, not available to other Muslims, in the number of wives.
Sura 39 (The Companions), Verses 29:
“Allah sets forth an example: There is a slave in whom are (several) partners differing with one another, and there is another slave wholly owned by one man. Are the two alike in condition? (All) praise is due to Allah. Nay! most of them do not know.”
The example set out here compares joint ownership of a slave by many owners and the single ownership by one person. Allah asks rhetorically whether the two cases are the same. Of course, they are not and it is clear that Muhammad prefers single ownership. In fact, this is why he established the rule that after a military campaign the captives were allocated to each of his soldiers individually not collectively, with himself keeping a fifth of the captives as his personal slaves.
Sura 70 (The Ways of Ascent), verses 29-35:
“And those who guard their private parts, Except in the case of their wives or those whom their right hands possess — for these surely are not to be blamed, But he who seeks to go beyond this, these it is that go beyond the limits — And those who are faithful to their trusts and their covenant And those who are upright in their testimonies, And those who keep a guard on their prayer, Those shall be in gardens, honored.”
These verses are similar to Sura 23.93-96 and gives the right to slave owners to have sexual relation with female slaves. The only difference is that the earlier reference may leave some doubt as to whether both males and female slaves are meant. These verses clearly show that it is only female slaves that are meant.
Quran 4:3:
“Marry women of your choice, Two or three or four; but if ye fear that ye shall not be able to deal justly (with them), then only one, or (a captive) that your right hands possess, that will be more suitable, to prevent you from doing injustice.”
This verse is saying a Muslim man can have sex with his female slaves (obtained in war) just like with married wives (up to four). The divine institution of Islamic slavery, including the sex-slavery, is the vilest of institutions ever created in history.
Allah, the Islamic God, thus, sanctions slavery as well as use of female slaves for pleasures of men – the vilest practice, albeit an divinely-sanctioned one, ever exercised by man. (For article titled, Islam, Slavery and Rape, go to: http://www.islamreform.net/new-page-62.htm)
Slavery in Prophetic traditions
Following is just a small sample of more teachings of God’s divine institution of slavery.
Muhammad’s position on freeing slaves
1) In one instance, a man freed a slave that he kept as a sexual partner. When Muhammad heard what happened, he auctioned the boy and sold him for 800 dirhams to Na-eem Ebn Abdullah Al- Nahham. (Sahih Muslim, vol. 7, p. 83)
2) According to Muhammad, the punishment for committing adultery is different with a free-woman and a slave-woman. The man must be flogged one-hundred stripes and be exiled for one year. The free woman must be stoned to death. But the slave-woman (since she has a monetary value) will not be exiled or killed, she is to be flogged one-hundred stripes. If the violation is repeated, the slave-woman is to be sold. (Sahih Al Bukhari vol. 8:821 & 822)
Islam Looked Down on Blacks
Islam’s sacred texts contain explicit denigrating remarks about black people.
Muhammad referred to Blacks as “raisin heads”. (Sahih al-Bukhari 1.662, 9.256).
In another Hadith, Muhammad is quoted as saying that Blacks are “pug-nosed slaves”. (Sahih Muslim vol. 9, p. 46-47).
A Slave is not Entitled to Property or Money
Ibn Hazm says in Vol. 6, Part 9,
“The slave is not permitted to write a will when he dies, nor can he bequeath (anything) because his entire possessions belong to his master.”
Testimony of Slaves inadmissible
In Vol. 35, p. 409 Ibn Timiyya remarks:
“The Shafi’i, Malik, and Abu Hanifa, who are the legists of Islam, assert that the testimony of the slave is not acceptable.”
The “Ordinances of the Qur’an” by the Shafi’i (part II, p. 142), stipulates that,
“The witnesses must be from among our freeman, not from our slaves, but from freeman who belong to our religion!”
Black Slaves on Matters of Sex and Marriage
1. The Slave cannot choose for himself.
This was confirmed by all the Muslim scholars on the authority of Muhammad. In Vol. 6, Part 9, p. 467, Ibn Hazm said,
“If a slave gets married without the permission of his master, his marriage will be invalid and he must be whipped because he has committed adultery. He must be separated from his wife. She is also regarded as an adulteress because Muhammad said, ‘Any slave who gets married without the approval of his master is a prostitute.'”
The same text is quoted by Ibn Qayyim al-Jawziyya (Part 5, p. 117 of “Zad al-Maad”), as well as Ibn Timiyya (Vol. 32, p. 201). Malik Ibn Anas relates (Vol. 2, Part 4) more than that. He says (pp. 199, 201, 206),
“The slave does not get married without the approval of his master. If he is a slave to two masters, he has to obtain the approval of both men.”
2. The male slave and the female slave are forced to get married.
Malik Ibn Anas says explicitly,
“The master has the right to force his male or female slave to marry without obtaining their approval” (Vol. 2, p. 155).
“The master does not have the right to force the female slave to wed to an ugly black slave if she is beautiful and agile unless in case of utmost necessity” (refer to Ibn Hazm, Vol. 6, Part 9, p. 469).
In matters of sex and marriage, Ibn Timiyya states:
“The one who owns the mother also owns her children. Being the master of the mother makes him the owner of her children whether they were born to a husband or they were illegitimate children. Therefore, the master has the right to have sexual intercourse with the daughters of his maid-slave because they are his property, provided he does not sleep with the mother at the same time” (Vol. 35, p. 54).
Price of Slaves
“If an owned slave assaults somebody and damages his property, his crime will be tied to his neck. It will be said to his master, ‘If you wish, you can pay the fine for the damages done by your slave or deliver him to be sentenced to death.’ His master has to choose one of the two options – either the value of the slave and his price or the damage the slave has caused” (Vol. 32, p. 202, Ibn Timiyya).
Racism from Prophetic tradition
Ishaq, p. 243:
“I heard the Apostle say: ‘Whoever wants to see Satan should look at Nabtal!’ He was a black man with long flowing hair, inflamed eyes, and dark ruddy cheeks…. Allah sent down concerning him: ‘To those who annoy the Prophet there is a painful doom.” [9:61] “Gabriel came to Muhammad and said, ‘If a black man comes to you his heart is more gross than a donkey’s.'”
Ishaq, p. 144:
“A rock was put on a slave’s chest. When Abu Bakr complained, they said, ‘You are the one who corrupted him, so save him from his plight.’ I will do so,’ said Bakr. ‘I have a black slave, tougher and stronger than Bilal, who is a heathen. I will exchange him. The transaction was carried out.”
Tabari, II:11:
“Shem, the son of Noah was the father of the Arabs, the Persians, and the Greeks; Ham was the father of the Black Africans; and Japheth was the father of the Turks and of Gog and Magog who were cousins of the Turks. Noah prayed that the prophets and apostles would be descended from Shem and kings would be from Japheth. He prayed that the African’s color would change so that their descendants would be slaves to the Arabs and Turks.”
Tabari, II:21:
“Ham [Africans] begat all those who are black and curly-haired, while Japheth [Turks] begat all those who are full-faced with small eyes, and Shem [Arabs] begat everyone who is handsome of face with beautiful hair. Noah prayed that the hair of Ham’s descendants would not grow beyond their ears, and that whenever his descendants met Shem’s, the latter would enslave them.”
Ishaq, p. 450:
“It is your folly to fight the Apostle, for Allah’s army is bound to disgrace you. We brought them to the pit. Hell was their meeting place. We collected them there, black slaves, men of no descent.”
Bukhari 4.52.137:
“The Prophet said, ‘Let the negro slave of Dinar perish. And if he is pierced with a thorn, let him not find anyone to take it out for him…. If he [the black slave] asks for anything it shall not be granted, and if he needs intercession [to get into paradise], his intercession will be denied.'”
Slavery, raping slave girls, owning slaves, selling boys and women as trophies of war, sharing the booty (including slaves) obtained in raids and wars with Allah are all central teachings of Islam. Slavery was one of the major driving forces behind the expansion of Islam. After assuming his prophetic career, Prophet Muhammad enslaved large number of men and women, owned dozens of slaves, he sold many slaves as well as used the female captives as sex-slaves on top his dozen wives. Islam is such as vile, evil cult, which has been embraced by today’s civilized world’s 1.2 billion people as the perfect guide to life and its Prophet as perfect human being, the greatest apostle of God, a man of peace.
Today, tens of millions of Blacks—whose forefathers were the worst victim of Muhammad’s cult—also eulogize this man, and call themselves proud Muslims. There cannot be anything more shameful than this.
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Jake Neuman is the author of “Islam and Sharia Law Are Treason: Jihad Is Treason” and Prophet Muhammad (AKA ALLAH): Monster of History. The Teachings of The Quran are The Teachings of A Psychotic and That Psychotic Was Prophet Muhammad: Murderer, Terrorist, Torturer, Rapist, Child Molester free download at http://www.islamreform.net. His book ISLAM — EVIL IN THE NAME OF GOD ™ was banned in Malaysia.
No ill be adding these back on but it will take a little while. I am out with the wife at the moment.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/law-and-order/9217206/Terrorists-threaten-to-attack-UK-if-Qatada-is-deported.html
The threat was issued by Al-Shabaab, a Somali-based group apparently – it’s not clear if it was channeled through our political class’s experimental cultural hothouse in Milton Keynes.
I meant to add to my main post the following:-
They get upset if we dare to call them niggers, yet they sign up for this ‘religion’ that considers them lower than sub-human.
If they’re that stupid, how can they even consider us white folk are being rude to them!!
Thanks for the Sternberg link Frank. That and the Telegraph link just posted by Malfleur is depressing. As Militant Islam emerges and flexes its nasty muscle here, Britain is under occupation by the worst kind of leftist trash, bandwagon jumpers, appeasers, cowards and traitors.
And on that theme I was reading about London Mayoral candidate Siobhan Benita whose background seems to perfectly represent the “new” left wing civil service, more consumed, it seems, with disseminating the ideologies of femi-wimpism, diversity and multi-cultibabble than with being either civil or serving. She is absolutely excoriated by McKinstry in this week’s Speccie. A good read somewhat deflated by Fraser Nelson’s editorial reminding us that our patron saint St George really represents multi-culturalism rather than England –
“So raise your George Cross high on the 23rd, and celebrate our multicultural saint.”
I’ll be celebrating our English national identity instead – not quite dead despite the concerted efforts of politicians here and in Brussels to destroy it. And since all the other religious and ethnic diversities crammed into this island over the last twenty years are permitted to tribalise in sectarian celebrations of one sort or another why shouldn’t the English? Why are white, Christian English groups racist and all the others not? Answer me that please.
Malfleur – do your Somali sheet-heads actually grasp the disdain which desert Arabs hold for them? Just how stupid is it possible to be? And one of the swarthy f**kers is running the USA!!
Malfleur – you can find all my bile at www.http://clear-memories-tentacles.blogspot.com.au/ until the fuckwits take it down.
A little light relief (but not entirely unconnected with the depressing reportage above) from my NN.
Angela Merkel arrives at passport control in Athens .
“Nationality?” asks the immigration officer.
“German,” she replies.
“Occupation?”
“No, just here for a few days”.
Just back from the Isle of Fernando’s. It was the first time I’d been away on a plance in 3 years. The plane landed (or more like beached) at about midnight last night. For UK/EU passport holders it took over an hour of queueing to get through passport control at Gatwick! Non UK/EU passport holders had got their own queue (which we were not allowed to use) and were getting through much quicker. Who could blame them for laughing at us! Also, there was a “special assistance” lane for those in wheelchairs and with infants in prams etc. Fair play you might say, but there did seem to be more than a representative sample of people in clad alien gear being fast tracked through that channel. The staff that were “managing” the queues seemed to be straight out of school, panicked and utterly clueless!
All this chaos in the middle of the night on an unregarded Fri/Sat in the back end of April. How the hell are they going to cope in the August holiday season with the Olympics on top!
Nicholas (11.19)
Entirely concur. Btw I posted a later qualifier to my comment of 00:24, (which now seems to have disappeared) pointing out that the Sternberg paper was written in 2009 and, considering the events that have unfolded since, is remarkably apposite and prescient. It synthesises much of what has been discussed by the renegades now foregathered here, in sporadic salvos over the years – and it is both assiduously notated and issues forth new terms, definitions and phrases which I’m sure will become daily currency on this blog. I’m hoping that it will be widely disseminated; I’ve already posted it on the ‘other’ coffee house, must pop over to see whether it made the cut.
Another from NN:
Subject : Donations for Parliament
Even in the hardest of times, it just shows you how generous people can be 🙂
A driver Is stuck in a traffic jam on the highway outside London,
nothing Is moving. Suddenly, a man knocks on the car window. The
driver rolls down the window and asks, “What’s going on?”
“Terrorists have kidnapped the members of parliament and they’re asking
for a £100 million ransom ! Otherwise, they are going to douse them all
in petrol and set them on fire. We are going from car to car collecting
donations.”
“How much is everyone giving, on average?” the driver asks.
“Roughly a gallon ” he replied.
Clear Memories writes: “I know you do your bit with anti-muzzie insults, but my experience of the little sheet heads is that, by and large, they can live with insults…”
Only because they think that allah and his school sneak mo have the power to enact plans for you and change your destiny. They think they’re going to teach normal people a lesson. Kind of like little schoolboys who think they’re going to extract terrible revenge on their teacher for telling them off in class.
I was wondering how old, given his adolescent delusions of world power, mo was when he croaked. Sixty-three. Not bad for a desert crawler. Raping little girls must be rather bracing.
Anyway, CELEBRATION ALERT!!!! The anniversary of mo’s death is coming up and it’s time to party! The annivesary is 8th June 632 A.D. Mark your calendars! Turn those “rivers of wine”, inexplicably promised to jihadis, on!
Read more: http://wiki.answers.com/Q/How_old_was_Muhammad_prophet_when_he_died#ixzz1sgDUkyh5
Clear Memories, I’ll write however the hell I like, without your editorial services, thanks. The only editor I recogise is the owner of the site, P from M.
Nicholas 11:19 – thanks. Fraser Nelson, editor of a national political magazine who yet feared to address the most important issue of the day, Neathergate, is a pursed mouthed provincial little prig. I am guessing the circulation of The Speccie has fallen drastically since he took over. Given the journalistic talent in Britain, he seems a strange choice. I wonder how Fraser Nelson serves the Barclays’ ends.
Cross-posting from the Speccie:
London Calling 21st, 1:16pm
P.P.S.
Fraser…Why did the coffee house wall come down, I don’t understand, it was a good place to discuss current issues and have a joke or two,,,,that’s a shambles by getting rid of it in my view finder….:(
Good that some of the ‘old faithfuls’ aren’t letting the old CHW go peacefully into the dark night.
It appears that London Calling doesn’t know that a better, freer Wall was set up by P from M and the old Speccie, highly edited Wall became de trop over night. And The Speccie certainly won’t tell him.
Clear Memories
Thanks. In fact I had earlier found my own way to the tentacular ramblings when I accidentally clicked on your name.
*****
Some good stuff from Charles Moore at:
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/law-and-order/9216724/We-cant-reform-the-European-Court-of-Human-Rights-so-lets-end-this-nonsense.html
Perhaps a demonstration outside the ECHR’s offices in London on April 23rd would be a start? Rot your your eggs and tomatoes now.
May I encourage commenters to create avatars? They will make for a more colourful page. You use the email address with which you registered here.
Go to: http://en.gravatar.com/
Clear Memories
April 21st, 2012 – 07:24
Dear Clear Memories, I usually read your postings with pleasure, but, using the modern vulgar jargon, the one indicated above did my head in! To use another expression used by the hoi polloi, too much information. 🙂
AWK – Agreed! It did my head in just to scroll down …. and down … and down …
Nicholas – Excellent lofty put-down of Sebastian Payne’s Speccie piece on a self-promoter called Siobahn Mc something in the London elections. I have advised him kindly, on The Speccie, to jettison his fashion copywriter dreams.
I don’t know how to do avatars. (I also don’t like misuse of the word, but I guess it is too late for that.)
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2132985/Muslim-gang-jailed-kidnapping-raping-girls-Eid-celebrations.html
The girls they raped and passed around to celebrate eid were agedd 15 and 16 … so a bit old for mohammad. mo saw Aisha being pushed on a swing by her mother when she was six and fell instantly in love. Smitten, he discussed this situation with his friends, who all opined that she was “too small” and he therefore held off raping her until she was nine! A true gentleman of the desert!
Further misuse of words which Florence of Arabia may not like:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9yiLg5RH6gA
Florence of Arabia
April 21st, 2012 – 19:39
Agree! I don’t do picture books (Wow, I’m really getting into Modtalk!)
John Jefferson Burns April 20.
“So to passports. Obama dont care a hill of beans that citizens have to fill a few more forms in if it weeds out those out to get the innocent. And rightly so.”
And how does he feel about birth certificates?
Clear Memories at 0724
Devastating, referenced critique.
A few more discursive examples should be most welcome.
Frank P at 0024
Have to say, I have now formulated a very clear idea of who are the real “masters of the universe”.
I am sure most rational thinkers are of the same viewpoint but, sadly, we know we’re finished should we enunciate it.
“As many as 100,000 women in Britain have undergone female genital mutilations (FGM), with medics in the UK offering to carry out the illegal procedure on girls as young as 10, it has been reported. The Metropolitan Police said since 2008, it had received 166 reports of people who fear they are at risk of FGM. It is the same story for all 43 forces across England and Wales with no convictions for the offence ever taking place, according to The Sunday Times.”
Police probably too busy monitoring Twitter for racist tweets.
Nicholas
And reports from Brighton, where the conference on reform of the European Court of Human Rights is being held, noted that the Court has a backlog of 150,000 as yet unheard cases.The President of the Court has called for…surprise, surprise…more money…
It’s not just genitals that are being mutilated…
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/9217620/St-Georges-flag-is-a-racist-symbol-says-a-quarter-of-the-English.html
I wonder which quarter of “the English” that might be…
Yes, I noticed that, and wondered whether those English who were asked what they thought about their own flag were English, or just living in England. Without knowing that the whole poll is bogus, which is one reason why I think there is room for a polling agency that asks those common sense questions which are immeidately obvious to us all here.
Pondering the Spectator giving oxygen to that infuriatingly smug lefty Tristram Hunt (in both the “podcast” and an article against Gove) I wondered about what direction the Editor is taking that once cherished magazine. Deeper and more firmly into the Bubble that’s for sure, but also towards a youthful wonkishness in its journalism that is lazy, shallow, self satisfied with little reason to be so, and which seems to view current politics as a kind of “Britain’s Got Talent” for politicians with ghastly gossip about “personality”. Whatever, I thought to myself, must Mr Nelson think about the evidently older and more conservative readers and commentators? There are hints of course. Our world view is increasingly marginalised and scoffed at, where we are not actively demonised with the same tired old pejoratives and metaphors. We few, we foaming few.
But really the Editor is pretty much aligned with Mr Cameron. He is modernising, progressive, improving by shifting to the centre in a way that takes him beyond and into the realms of the Left. De-toxifying the brand you see.
My sister, on one of her rare visits, picked up a copy of the Spectator as one might pick up something toxic and demanded “Do you read this? It’s very right wing.” How do you know, I asked her, have you ever read it? “Everyone knows it’s a very right wing magazine” she said, ducking the question and casting Mr Nelson’s efforts aside with a contemptuous snort. I suppose I should have been grateful that she didn’t say “extreme right wing” and shop me to the Stasi for inspiring Norwegian mass-murderers but it was a useful demonstration of how de-toxification doesn’t really work. How it never really brings the lefties and their useful idiots on side – they remain suspiciously hostile and tend not to do reason anyway – but also effectively alienates the old guard, whom it professes to despise.
Mr Cameron is engaged in similarly futile work, his bright vision for the future bound up in all sorts of odd combinations and contradictions which makes the prospect of a future Labour government more likely. What a rich opportunity he has squandered by abandoning those promises to dismantle the nanny state with all its high maintenance waste and irksome interferences. Now his government is set to introduce compulsory dog micro-chipping. The dog whistle politics of Nanny New Labour The Sequel get closer to home.
Pondering the similarity of these two modernising visionaries aspirations – puzzling, pandering, positioning left – and their attitude to their own un-de-toxified, backbenchers and swivel-eyed, foaming angries from Tunbridge Wells, I was minded to think of the Sex Pistols and to reverse their retort from performers to audience to audience to performers.
“I bet you don’t hate us as much as WE hate YOU!”
It is a joke that the Telegraph should swallow and repeat the nonsense that ‘British Future’ is non-partisan. Their Director of Communications and Editorial Director worked for the Fabian Society and their Director of Strategy and Relationships worked on policy matters for a Labour MP. Like so many of these influential think tanks their “non-partisan” status is bogus, like Siobhan Benita’s. These are their goals:-
“Building a modern British identity which helps us to build an inclusive citizenship, where we can all be confident about who we are, and which recognises the national and local identities we hold in Britain today too.
Promoting integration in Britain, so that people from all backgrounds contribute fully to the society that we want to share.
Understanding that migration has long made a positive contribution to British life, so we need to address its economic and social pressure, to manage it fairly for everyone.
Working for economic and social opportunity to be shared across our society – so that the chances in life of Britain’s next generation are not determined by where their parents came from, and so that nobody is left behind.”
The first is weasel-worded multi-culturalism re-cut. The second is negated by the first. The third is more weasel worded pro-immigration. The fourth reveals the overt socialism in it all.
A British dipliplomat, George Fergusson, 56, was assaulted and robbed on Friday while walking in Margravine Cemetery and Park, in Hammersmith, west London. Unfortunately, he may lose the sight of one eye. As soon as I read about this, I knew it would be a black man who was to blame. Yes, it was, and even the BBC website, for once gave the man’s desciption. Ironically, despite this, the “Guardian” wrote that they were seeking the mugger, and witnesses, yet failed to give the man’s colouur!
I’ve written to that ‘fine’ newspaper, “The Guardian” asking why they deliberately failed to give a description of the mugger. Will see what excuse they come up with. The story of this horrible attack is in all the foreign newpapers, as the victim is due to become a high official in Bemuda.
“We few … we foaming few”. Wonderful!
Please don¿t use the fascist left term Female Genital Mutilation. It is genital destruction. They slice off the clitoris. They have tried to ally it, subtley … ha ha ha ha … with circumcision, which some lefties had begun to refer to as “genital mutilation” a few years back. The phrase came in handy for avoiding mention of what muslim fascist parents were doing to their little premenstrual daughters.
Nicholas mentions “girls as young as 10” … well, yes, they try to get them before their first menstruation and primitive peoples begin to menstruate earlier.
AWK .. re the stabbing, they’ll send the Negroid Stone Age perp to prison for a week or so and then release him because of “over-crowding”. Heaven forefend that violent immigrants should be uncomfortable!
The solution is obvious: Africans out of Britain. But they are a valuable tool for the left, so it won’t happen.
How did this individual get in to Britain without a job to go to? What did he say at the Immigration counter that persuaded one of his fellow Stone Agers, inexplicably employed as a British Immigration Officer, to let him in? Or how much did he slip to the Negroid immigration “officer” guarding Britain’s borders?
Wow! All this, and you’ve still got the Olympics to go!
I knew when he went so hell-for-leather after it that Blair was using the Olympics as a weapon against the British. His last grand act of treachery before he stepped down. It was always obvious that he hates Britain. The French had it in the bag, and Tony and his grotesque wife hired a plane and chased the Olympics Committee all the way to Singapore, where they were currently freeloading at The Marco Polo.
Why was Blair, who was just stepping down as PM, so keen to get this expensive, rubbish event into Britain? It wasn’t for his own glory as he didn’t engage himself in it after securing it for Britain. My opinion, from Day One, was and is that he did it as a final act of malice. He spent 11 years or whatever it was, hacking Britain to pieces. This is to be the grande finale.
Happy Saint George’s Day Southrons! 🙂
Kennybhoy
You’ve obviously been taken heed of the remarks of our PM on the multiculti nature of St Georgie!
Stop lurking and let’s be ‘aving you, btw. Cat got your tongue? Probably when you lurked on Liddle Rod’s patch?
Frank P!
With regard to Professor Sternberg’s article.
No’ bad. Some decent analysis and insights.
I agree with this one in particular:
“With rare exceptions, U.S. conservatives, too, have been off the mark, viewing the agitators as socialists or (in the U.S. sense) extreme liberals. These are faulty images of an adversary that has radically changed.”
Indeed. There are some hereabouts who really do need to get their heids around this! 🙂
Further to my last post immediately above.
Thomas Molnar’s “Utopia: The Perennial Heresy” (1967).
Definitive.
Kennybhoy (01:46)
I think I agree with your last sentence, but only on one interpretation of your analysis. What you really meant of course may be different, as ever.