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@Alexsandr 23rd, – 08:01
And some of us remember it less well than others. π
Is Theresa May running scared of Farage? Can we really see the mad fanatical islamists put out of power, or is now too late? They have crawled into every level of control in this country, and will be protected by PC.
Anne.
To me the problem is not that they have infiltrated power.
Rather that they are frustrated for lack of power in their ghetto life.
Jennifer Oldham
March 23rd, 2015 – 13:44
Don’t quite follow you, Jennifer. In their ghetto life, they are able to dictate and persecute women. They are in command of the garbage the mosques preach, and they rule on school curriculum. And that is only on the ghetto life. In public civic life, Bradford et al, their mark is on evrything. Ugh!
And on a different thread of thought.
The polls are showing an alarming rise in SNP support.
It may be Cameron not Miliband in Salmond’s top pocket.
Rather swift legislation to give them independence than let the pacifist socialist dogs rule us.
Baron;Sun 22 March at 22-04.
This is all a highly likely scenario.”The tatterdemalion Ukrainian army”dependent on Chechen muslim terrorist groups.How soon will the arms from the USA (and non-lethal equipment from Cameron) filter down to the terrorists;remember the humvees sent to Iraq.Also (we are here told) terrorists can easily buy Ukrainian identity papers which will allow them into Poland (aka.The European Union).
Looking at the map I see how much The Ukraine is part of the world of the Caucasus;and now the Turkish government and army are linked to the muslim cause,making the Black Sea into a muslim lake.
Did not the Boston-marathon bomber come from the Caspian area?And the Crimea was the centre of the muslim slave-trade before being captured by the Tsarist Russians.
Your link bears repeating:
http://original.antiwar.com/justin/2015/03/05/isis-in-ukraine/
After all the hoo-hah today about the ‘funeral of Richard III’, accompanied by a bunch of multinational nutters in various guises of fancy dress pontificating about the ‘wonderful and historical occasion’, the anchor on Euronews, (which I was watching to escape wall-to-wall coverage of Balls and Osborne on Sky and BBC) finally capped it all by announcing that the ‘debate about the legacy of the controversial King would rage on and on’.
Yes indeed; the people of England, from Land’s End to Hadrian’s wall are all out on the streets, nose to nose, and will be for days to come: furiously arguing whether the last of the Plantagenets deserves a higher rating in the the lexicon of Cockney Rhyming Slang than Thora Hurd in terms of popular usage.
Sorry Thora … ‘Hird’, of course!
Still rhymes, though! π
anne wotana kaye March 23rd, 2015 – 13:03
βIs Theresa May running scared of Farage? Can we really see the mad fanatical islamists put out of power, or is now too late?β
To your first question, yes she probably is, they all are.
To your second, it is never too late, you and I are optimists, never ever give in.
David Ossitt
March 23rd, 2015 – 19:31
David, you always cheer me up. Optimism is a fine sentiment, but it wil work even better if a good kick up the ass can be administered to emphasis our sentiments regarding these fanatics!
Petition
https://www.change.org/p/university-of-southampton-cancel-your-upcoming-anti-israel-conference
Here’s a very naughty magazine.
`Vive Charlie!Weekly Online Satire Magazine in Tribute to Charlie Hebdo.`
Full colour\cartoons\serious articles – `How New Labour Destroyed Democracy`\Robert Spencer\ `Countdown Clock 596 days until a village in Kenya gets it’s idiot back`.
8 issues on show\Many pages.
http://t.co/GAPoU7Wg8Y
This is an interesting article in the context of the globalists’ drive for a cashless society peopled by individuals about whom the government knows everything:
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2015-03-23/fighting-war-terror-banning-cash
I suffered a “transaction alert” yesterday after withdrawing cash at an ATM machine to pay for domestic air tickets for my family in an amount well below my “daily limit” and became entangled in telephone calls back and forth between jurisdiction A where my bank is located and jurisdiction B where I have lived for the past four years. The conversations were all very polite, as befits the bank’s concern for the security of my money and my credit card. As the linked article concludes: Just remember… it’s for your own protection.
I seem to have persuaded my bank that I am not a bad guy – until the next transaction alert.
Alexsandr @ 08:01
The Czechs are a rather unlucky bunch, in fewer than 100 years they’ve bee n overrun by the the Nazis, the Soviets, and now by the Americans. It serves them right to settle in the middle of the troublesome continent.
anne wotana kaye March 23rd, 2015 – 20:11
“Optimism is a fine sentiment, but it wil work even better if a good kick up the ass can be administered to emphasis our sentiments regarding these fanatics!”
My beloved would return them all whence they came, all of them, the old, the adult and all of their offspring.
Malfleur @ 21:58
Their server is misbehaving, Baron will sign later, Malfleur, thanks.
David Ossitt
March 23rd, 2015 – 22:5
My beloved would return them all whence they came, all of them, the old, the adult and all of their offspring.
Amen!
Every time I hear the name Richard III, it brings back memories of Sir Laurence Olivier, complete with hunch back and venomous scowl, muttering “Now is the winter of our discontent made glorious summer…” I saw that film in the 1950s and have never forgotten it. What an actor!
Baron
Does this look like a good place to take the family for dinner?
Π‘ΠΏΡΡΡΡ Π½Π΅ΡΠΊΠΎΠ»ΡΠΊΠΈΡ Π΄Π½Π΅ΠΉ Π½Π°Ρ ΠΎΠΆΠ΄Π΅Π½ΠΈΡ Π½Π° ΠΎΡΡΡΠΎΠ²Π΅ Π½Π°ΠΌ Π½Π°Π΄ΠΎΠ΅Π»Π° ΠΌΠ΅ΡΡΠ½Π°Ρ Π΅Π΄Π°, ΠΏΠΎ ΠΎΡΠ·ΡΠ²Π°ΠΌ Π² ΠΈΠ½ΡΠ΅ΡΠ½Π΅ΡΠ΅ ΠΏΠΎΡΠ»ΠΈ Π² ΡΡΠΎ ΠΊΠ°ΡΠ΅ “ΠΠ΅Π»ΡΠΌΠ΅ΡΠΊΠ°” Ρ ΠΎΡΡ ΠΎΠ½Π° Π±ΡΠ»Π° ΠΈ ΡΡΠ΄ΠΎΠΌ Ρ Π½Π°ΡΠΈΠΌ ΠΎΡΠ΅Π»Π΅ΠΌ ΠΌΡ Π΅Ρ Π½Π°ΡΠ»ΠΈ Π½Π΅ ΡΡΠ°Π·Ρ ΡΠ°ΠΊ ΠΊΠ°ΠΊ Π²ΡΠ²Π΅ΡΠΊΠ° Π½Π΅ ΡΠΎΠ²ΡΠ΅ΠΌ ΠΏΡΠΈΠΌΠ΅ΡΠ½Π°Ρ… ΠΠΎ Π½Π΅ ΡΠ΄Π°Π²Π°ΠΉΡΠ΅ΡΡ ΠΈΡΠΈΡΠ΅ Π΅Ρ )) ΠΎΠ½Π° ΡΠΎΠ³ΠΎ ΡΡΠΎΠΈΡ! ΠΠΎΠ½ΡΠ°Π²ΠΈΠ»ΠΈΡΡ Π°Π±ΡΠΎΠ»ΡΡΠ½ΠΎ Π²ΡΠ΅ Π±Π»ΡΠ΄Π° ΠΊΠΎΡΠΎΡΡΠ΅ Π·Π°ΠΊΠ°Π·ΡΠ²Π°Π»ΠΈ, Π΄Π΅ΠΉΡΡΠ²ΠΈΡΠ΅Π»ΡΠ½ΠΎ Π²ΡΠ΅ ΠΎΡΠ΅Π½Ρ Π²ΠΊΡΡΠ½ΠΎ ΠΊΠ°ΠΊ ΠΏΠΎ Π΄ΠΎΠΌΠ°ΡΠ½Π΅ΠΌΡ, Ρ ΠΎΠ΄ΠΈΠ»ΠΈ ΡΡΠ΄Π° ΠΏΡΠ°ΠΊΡΠΈΡΠ΅ΡΠΊΠΈ ΠΊΠ°ΠΆΠ΄ΡΠΉ Π΄Π΅Π½Ρ. ΠΡΠ΅Π½Ρ ΠΏΠΎΠ½ΡΠ°Π²ΠΈΠ»ΠΈΡΡ Π±Π»ΡΠ΄Π° “ΠΊΠΎΠ»Π΄ΡΠ½Ρ” “ΠΌΠΈΠΌΠΎΠ·Π°” ΠΈ “Π±Π»ΠΈΠ½ΡΠΈΠΊΠΈ Ρ ΠΌΠ°Π½Π³ΠΎ”. Π‘ΠΏΠ°ΡΠΈΠ±ΠΎ ΠΎΠ³ΡΠΎΠΌΠ½ΠΎΠ΅ Ρ ΠΎΠ·ΡΠΈΠ½Ρ ΠΊΠ°ΡΠ΅ Π‘Π΅ΡΠ³Π΅Ρ Π·Π° Π²ΠΊΡΡΠ½ΡΡ ΠΊΡΡ Π½Ρ ΠΈ Π·Π° ΡΠΎ, ΡΡΠΎ ΠΏΠΎΠΊΠ°Π·Π°Π» ΠΊΡΠ°ΡΠΈΠ²ΡΠΉ ΡΠ΅ΡΡΠΎΡΠ°Π½ Π½Π° Π΄Π΅Π½Ρ ΡΠΎΠΆΠ΄Π΅Π½ΠΈΡ ΡΡΠΏΡΡΠ³ΠΈ! ) ΠΡΠΈΠ½Π΅, ΠΠΌΠ΅Π»ΠΈΠΈ, Π ΠΈΡΠΈΠΊΡ ΠΈ ΠΏΠΎΠ²Π°ΡΡ ΠΠΆΠΎΠ½Ρ ΠΏΡΠΈΠ²Π΅Ρ ΠΈΠ· ΠΠ»Π°Π΄ΠΈΠ²ΠΎΡΡΠΎΠΊΠ°!!! ))
Lesley C
Yes, marvelous! I learned that speech from the record off by heart when I was at school!
And of course:
“Cousin, thou wast not wont to be so dull. Shall I be plain? I wish the bastards dead..”
and the fabulously sexist:
“Was ever woman in this humour woo’d?
Was ever woman in this humour won?
I’ll have her; but I will not keep her long.”
We all dreamed of being Richard III back then…
Is our country being taken for a ride
Cameron has triggered infighting from restless and outspoken backbenchers most fed up with Cameron’s leadership anyway. When Tony Blair did the same everyone demanded that he demit office sooner.
By making this stupid announcement Cameron has sacrificed the chance of stable government were he to be elected.
As the brilliant Alistair Campbell said:
*
” βI canβt for the life of me believe that this was planned. If youβre five weeks from an election and youβre the Prime Minister, you have to be devoting every single ounce of energy and time to explaining why you should win. This says to me that heβs given up. That was a losing mindset, that was somebody whoβs thinking beyond the job. This is a bit of a disaster for the Tories.
Heβs made this election campaign β which should be about the economy, jobs, and public services β about two psycho dramas about him. This will fill the airwaves and papers, and the public, which want a debate about the issues in this election, are taken for granted.β
*
So its Ed and Alex then
Malfleur @ 05:42
If you trust the guy’s judgement, Malfleur, you cannot go wrong. The ‘blini with mango’ offering sound genuinely tasty, but the barbarian would have see the ‘mimosa’ concoction to list ii under the same heading of tastiness. Still, you planning a trip to Vladivostok then?
telemachus @ 07:07
Anyone who calls Alistair Campbell brilliant ought to have his balls amputated. What’s wrong with you, telemachus?
Baron March 24th, 2015 – 10:31
βAnyone who calls Alistair Campbell brilliant ought to have his balls amputated. Whatβs wrong with you, telemachus?β
The nearer we get to the General Election the more bile will spew forth from this deranged twat.
Baron @ 10:30
No, it is in fact a review on “Trip Advisor” of a Russian restaurant at a beach resort here in South East Asia. Russians were of course unknown in the region whether as restaurateurs or tourists when I first came out here, but some years after the collapse of the Soviet Union they began to appear and their numbers have been steadily growing. I will try it next week and introduce my family to Russian cuisine which is largely novel for me too. The owner is called Sergei and has a dog called Ricky. He, the owner, is said by English language reviewers to serve Russian home cooking.
Incidentally, I am reading with pleasure and sometimes bursts of laughter Howard Jacobson’s novel, Zoo Time, from which I understand that in certain circles in England vodka is drunk through the eyes. This might impress even a Russian restaurant owner, but I don’t think I will be trying it at Sergei’s place – unless of course you recommend it.
The review is headed βΠΡΠ»ΠΈΡΠ½Π°Ρ ΠΊΡΡ Π½Ρ!!!β which I take to be an encomium. So perhaps the reviewer is Sergei himself under a pseudonym…
Lesley C. – 02:07
Every time I hear the name Richard III … I think of Ronnie Barker.
And I even did ‘Richard III’ for O’level English Lit.!
Note how the “thoughtful minority” (e.g. extreme left-wing trolls) haunting and hunting at the Speccie always go after other commentators comments but seldom comment on the issues in their own right.
Come here having read somewhere that it’s a reasonable blog, and the first name that stands out is telemachus.
Why do you respond to clowns like this? Like dogs, all they want is attention – any attention.
Anne
March 24th, 2015 – 12:40
Interested to see the first part of my moniker has been taken vain! Seriously, is theer another Anne on here. If so, welcome, we need some more of the gentler (?) sex.
@RobertC 24th, – 12:14
“And I even did βRichard IIIβ for Oβlevel English Lit.!”
Lucky you…I did Richard II. Few characters you could sympathise with in that one, although I did enjoy the Beeb’s production of it a couple of years ago. They can do some things well.
Baron 1031
I guess you have different views about Bernard Ingham
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/culture/books/3591654/As-scary-as-Alastair-Campbell.html
Robert C 1214
I always think of Nick Clegg
http://www.cockneyrhymingslang.co.uk/slang/richard_the_third_1
How did we cope in the last world war without army’s of trained councillors.
John birch 1613
Or even counsellors
In view of Obama’s evident desire to gives the world’s no.1 terror sponsor the bomb this weird post asks:
“What will we do when Muslim terrorists detonate a nuclear bomb on a western city?”
at: http://john-moloney.blogspot.com/2015/03/what-will-we-do.html
Anne March 24th, 2015 – 12:40
βCome here having read somewhere that itβs a reasonable blog, and the first name that stands out is telemachus.β
If he/she/ it had studied at Hogwarts he/she/it would have been in Slitherin House, most here take little if any notice.
Though we do have one brave soul who tears him/it/she into tiny pieces on a regular basis.
Welcome.
If you revere the Blessed Margaret, twice welcome.
David Ossitt: “If you revere the Blessed Margaret, twice welcome.”
Not Hodge or Beckett, please?
Colonel Mustard, this election is ahving huge online resources thrown at it on the MSM websites.
Not allowed to vote unless signed in lest we find out how much the public hate Dave etc
Telly 16.16
Yes, them as well !!!!!
The MSM’s mooted Red Ed/SNP deal is a pure red herring, no doubt fished out of the play book by Lynton Crosby in the hope it will lure back Tory voters. You can tell the argument is false by its ubiquity in the pages of the Mail and Telegraph.
In fact, Dave would do a deal with the SNP just as quickly. That’s the real story.
Slippery Dave has the chance of trying to form a minority government last time and rejected in favour of coalition so deals are a proven part of his character. There is no way he and Crosby are not planning for some sort of tie-up post this election. Where on earth would those two creatures ever get the votes to get an outright win?
That’s the other thing we hardly see in newsprint: Dave lost last time, which was when people who should have known better believed him.
The SNP and the Tories – is This the Love that Dare not Speak its Name?
http://hitchensblog.mailonsunday.co.uk/2015/03/the-snp-and-the-tories-is-this-the-love-that-dare-not-speak-its-name.html
Anne March 24th, 2015 – 17:10
“Not Hodge or Beckett, please?”
The clue was in the ‘blessed’, Margaret Thatcher.
Over on a Douglas Murray post on The Spectator, in the Comments section below, telemachus denies that his real name in Nick Hadjinikos and that he lives in Richmond, Surrey (but pretends to live in Liverpool), that he also goes by the name of Patricia Shaw and is called Kallinos on Twitter!
http://blogs.spectator.co.uk/coffeehouse/2015/03/is-londons-diversity-to-blame-for-its-unprogressive-views-on-homosexuality/
Geordie Shaw March 24th, 2015 – 19:18
βOver on a Douglas Murray post on The Spectator, in the Comments section below, telemachus denies that his real name in Nick Hadjinikos and that he lives in Richmond, Surrey (but pretends to live in Liverpool), that he also goes by the name of Patricia Shaw and is called Kallinos on Twitter!β
Prior to the last General Election we had a number of trolls posting here, there were at least three Patricia/Patriccia/Pattricia Shaws, and a multitude of differently spelled Telemachus.
Expect their puss ridden drivel to flow freely up until a conservative win.
telemachus is aware that I will not tolerate him using other names here. He may do, but if I discovered he was doing so then it would result in action being taken.
P of M
I trust you record IP addressses of posters and look for different posters having the same IP address.
Alexsandr, yes. WordPress does that as a matter of course.
I don’t know if I’ve ever seen the Mail and Torygraph so slavishly churning out CCHQ’s spin in the run-up to an election.
The UK is over-run with Muslim immigration to the point where beheadings take place in the street. So instead of having defence capmaign based on getting back the borders, there’s drivellous story after story on Russia. Putin is a wife beater (God give me strength!), Russian bombers fly near passenger jets in training exercises (but don’t down them), a trawler boat may have got its fishing nets caught up in a Russian submarine. What’s new?
So instead of Islam, which the Tories love (because it’s always good to align yourself with someone who can threaten Joe Public), their campaign is ‘weaponised’ by some bogus Russian threat sexed up by Lynton Crosby.
Then there was the pathetic Budget. Five years (count them) of pxxx and wind and it’s all fixed by a Budget whose effects you’ll only find out about the truth of… after the election. My, Gideon, it’s like one of grant Shapps’ get rich quick schemes.
And the endless ‘Salmond: I’ll bring down the Tories and install Miliband’ stories. Dave will be up Salmond’s backside quicker than he turned Libya into the world’s biggest hub for Third World Immigration to Britain if he thinks it will keep him in a job.
And I love Fraser Nelson’s endless charts and graphs, which amount to saying we know most of you are poorer and getting worse off but if this graph here says it ain’t true, it ain’t true. Trust the statistics, will ya?
Oook Ook Oook.
Ooook Oooook Oooooook.Ooook Ooook OoK Oook:OooooooooooK@@@@!!!!!!
The Librarian at 20-56.
In general I agree with your comment on telemachus;but I’m not sure about `OooooooooooK`.Is this similar to the “M” word?
Oook Ook Oook.
Oook Ook Ook.
The Librarian at 21-03.
Thank you.I tend to think it’s a little over the top;but I’m sure many here will agree with it.
So plentiful is the gushing in the Tory press, you’d hardly notice that the Tories just made it the law to set aside 0.7% of whatever it is for ‘foreign aid’. Most of it isn’t for foreign aid at all, it’s just a slush fund to help Tory and Labour donors secure contracts abroad via their sponsored parties.
It’s the sort of thing that epitomises LibLabCon (a phrase banned from Spectator and Telegrpah chatboards because it contains so many home truths). There was next to no opposition to that in Parliament. It was just raileroaded through. That is why they are LibLabCon. Where the hell all this straw man difference between them comes from, I don’t know. It’s just election time BS. Meet the new boss, same as the old boss.
The grovelling over the Budget was epitomised by the false headlines of ‘the end of the tax return’. Best summarised by this poster on the Telegraph:
Eric Toad
This “death of the tax return” is the biggest politician’s lie I’ve ever heard.
The tax return may not remain paper but it is still there.
You will still be responsible for telling the taxman about anything he wants but may not know about (ie, all those receipts your article talks about will still need entering).
The only real difference here is the announcement of the biggest invasion of privacy by the state – possibly ever – as they announce that they will now simply get all the information about your accounts and finances directly from the banks without asking or involving you at all. (Presumably, not just how much tax you owe, but how much you have and what type of account it is etc etc.)
Do you remember ever giving them permission to do this? I don’t!
Increasingly, and very worryingly, the state now seems to think that it rather than you owns the money you earn – and pretty much thinks it owns you actually – and that you should just be damned well grateful if they let you keep any of it.
Unless you’re a multi-national, of course, in which case you can pay tax for yourself, tax for all the fat cats in the corporations who don’t pay any and tax to subsidise the wages of the low-paid in the multi-nationals who are so poorly paid, they need tax subsidies, all because their empoyers won’t pay a living wage and want to salt it all offshore tax-free, just for them.
A must read Wallsters:
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/article-3005882/A-grotesque-love-propaganda-Unspeakable-barbarity-loathing-Jews-hunger-world-domination-stunning-intervention-literary-colossus-V-S-NAIPAUL-says-ISIS-Fourth-Reich.html
h/t Gerard Vanderleun.
telemachus @ 13:39
Both men had too much power, telemachus, given neither was either elected, or a member of the civil service set-up. It’s arguable, but the perception of the relationship between the two political, mutually supportive duos that Baron formed was that whilst Mrs T was in charge of Ingham most of the time, the same cannot be said about the twosome of Blair & Campbell.
Radford NG March 24th, 2015 – 21:01
“In general I agree with your comment on telemachus;but Iβm not sure about `OooooooooooK`.Is this similar to the βMβ word?”
In Terry Pratchett’s Disc World Books, the Librarian at the Unseen University was an Orang-outing as a result of a magic spell that went wrong.
Hence the Ooook.
Malfleur @ 11:22
‘Drinking vodka through the eyes?’ That’s new to Baron, and he’s been around for a while some of the while in the lands of some serious vodka drinkers. How on earth can it be done?
Jewish humour (and music) please the barbarian no end, and Howard Jacobson ranks high in the category of Baron’s favorites. Only he can deliver a speech entitled βWhen Will the Jews be Forgiven the Holocaust?β Get yourself “The Finkler Question’, you’ll enjoy it, too. His latest is ‘J’, which Baron hasn’t read yet, it’s compared to Orwell’s 1984, it should be goo d.
What’s the common denominator of the three recent air disasters?
Within minutes of the crew reporting ‘everything’s OK’ the communication with the control tower is lost, and not a word is heard from anyone on the plane (the crew, passengers) even though it takes time for each of the three planes to hit the ground (or the sea). Puzzling that.
Take the latest disaster where it took 6-8 minutes for the plane to descend, then level off before crashing, yet neither one of the two pilots (or any of the other crew members) communicates with the control tower.
Frank P @ 23:00
V.S. Naipaul is on the right track; but how can ISIS (Al Qaeda) be annihilated when it is run by the people controlling the U.S. Federal government? Not to mention when our Defence Secretary has just declared to that Federal government that Britain “would always be at Washington’s side on the battlefield “when the chips are down” “. Dying for Victoria Nuland in the cordon insalubre separating Russia from getting together with Germany, for instance, ought to be a personal decision for Mr. Fallon. Unfortunately…
I would think that when for example the United States “loses track” of US$500 million military equipment in Yemen, the chips are on the table. So is britain on the wrong battlefield?
Any odds offered that the German airliner was brought down today by one of the Stinger Missiles which Hillary Clinton seems to have been running through Benghazi to Al Qaeda and Ambassador Stevens was trying to buy back when he was so unhappily thwarted by “dark forces” – well we don’t know because the Pentagon has “lost track” of them too.
So who is going to annihilate ISIS? Well, each member of the US military took an oath. Are there any people left in it who take oaths seriously or has Obama purged all those and left only the oath-breakers? If so, we are stuffed – royally.
Geordie Shaw @ 20:52
You right, Geordie, the ‘Putin’s the menace’ campaign is to divert the attention from the festering boil of creeping Islamisation of the West run by a half Muslim. The messiah’s formative years were spent amongst Muslims, he cannot help feeling for the followers of Allah, it’s hard to blame him for it, his heart beats for them.
You recall his meeting the Saudi King, bowing so low he almost toppled? That should have been a hint. The leader of the free world in a submissive posture before the longest serving dictator. Arghhh
Baron @ 23:18
I am on the lookout for anything else by Howard Jacobson and thanks for the heads-up that he has another novel out.
No clue as to the techniques involved in drinking vodka through the eyes. Perhaps Sergei will give me a demonstration. If so, I will report back here next week…
It seems to be an English thing though among trendies.
Spiegel’s front cover won’t please the German Frau, Baron reckons:
http://www.thejournal.ie/der-spiegel-cover-angela-merkel-2009311-Mar2015/
Alex Jones addresses the US military at the start of his March 24 show:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ETtot9sZuDU
David Ossitt at 23-08;24 March
Just,what ever you do,don’t use the “M” word !!
Ooook!
Alexandr 2027
Peter not only knows which IP provider but the area of the UK of the poster
Data protection and potential for redress by the ICO will preclude him commenting on specific cases but he is correct that telemachus knows from experience that he cannot use sockpuppets on this site
Further it would be within his power to deny the stupid suggestions that telemachus is either Hadjinikos or lives in Richmond
(PS to Geordie Shaw-my references are to Manchester, not Liverpool which is a hive of Welsh and Irish)
Alexsandr, March 24th, 2015 – 20:27
Oh you’d be surprised.
Anything is possible, ain’t it Bruce?
http://whatismyipaddress.com/proxy-server
Whoever placed the link to the UK edition of Charlie hebdo please post it again.
http://gatesofvienna.net/2006/09/why-we-cannot-rely-on-moderate-muslims/
This was posted in2006.
Read it now 8 years on and see how the muslim plan against the west was predicted and look at where we are now.
Barons point about the three planes lack of emergency calls or any indication of problems is spot on.
As soon as the latest plane was known to be down it was said we don’t know what happened but it’s not thought to be terrorism.
In the current climate I would start from suspecting terrorism untill proved wrong.
John birch – 08:52 ‘… but itβs not thought to be terrorism’
They could have said that they had no evidence yet that it was terrorism, but they can’t resist showing their fear, or power, or their unawareness of their fear and power!
A good read, demolishing the ‘97% of researchers’ beliefs:
Global warming consensus claim does not stand up
“Consensus has no place in science. Academics agree on lots of things, but that does not make them true. Even so, agreement that climate change is real and human-caused does not tell us anything about how the risks of climate change weigh against the risks of climate policy. But in our age of pseudo-Enlightenment, having 97% of researchers on your side is a powerful rhetoric for marginalizing political opponents.”
http://richardtol.blogspot.co.uk/2015/03/now-almost-two-years-old-john-cooks-97.html
Frank P – March 24th, 23:00
A must read Wallsters:
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/article-3005882/A-grotesque-love-propaganda-Unspeakable-barbarity-loathing-Jews-hunger-world-domination-stunning-intervention-literary-colossus-V-S-NAIPAUL-says-ISIS-Fourth-Reich.html
Baron – 00:05 ‘some Europeans see a βFourth Reichβ when they look at Germany’
Spiegelβs front cover wonβt please the German Frau, Baron reckons:
http://www.thejournal.ie/der-spiegel-cover-angela-merkel-2009311-Mar2015
If only these foreigners would form an orderly queue: we cannot have TWO Fourth Reichs!
Along with the post below, it does beggar belief that our ‘leaders’ are in the real world. Though my post, just above @ 11:23, shows how far the disease has spread:
John birch – 08:52
http://gatesofvienna.net/2006/09/why-we-cannot-rely-on-moderate-muslims/
This was posted in 2006.
telemachus is correct that I can see the IP address associated with his posts, and can also determine where that is likely to be. But since he is a professional troll it is not likely that he posts using an ordinary domestic connection and so wherever the IP address says that he is located is unlikely to be relevant. He might well use a number of VPNs to be able to mask his true location and identity. I am sure that telemachus knows where his present IP address points to him being located.
A Muslim Judge in the UK has convicted a Christian of a public order offence for using the Bible in a conversation with a homosexual who had approached him and wanted a debate.
“As for Qureshi, the Christian News Network claims that he is a Muslim who is the βpresiding judge at the Shariah law-based Muslim Arbitration Tribunal”.
A good indication as to the overwhelming majority of US Congressmen who are bought and sold (and/or blackmailed) is the recent vote to arm Ukraine: 348-48
The proportions will no doubt be similar in the Senate, so that we may infer that the modern Catiline conspiracy has been successful
Whether Alex Jones will prove to be our Cicero, and whether he may suffer Cicero’s fate, remains to be seen.
Meanwhile, no alarm bells are ringing in Westminster at the collapse of the American republic, but that is because Westminster is largely Washington’s glove puppet.
Mr. Boot along with other useful parties, seems to have got want he wished for: ‘a call to arms’, albeit by a corrupt and corrupted legislature.
For a less sanguine view of the implications of this vote, see:
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2015-03-24/us-house-votes-348-48-arm-ukraine-russia-warns-lethal-aid-will-explode-whole-situati#comments
and in particular the comments.
“Just Observing” for instance notes:
“During the Floor debate on the Resolution, Rep. Eliot Engel (D-NY) even compared Russian “action” in Ukraine to Hitler’s invasion of Czechoslovakia, demanding that this time the “Hitler” must be stopped before he goes further!
Not a single Member of Congress took the Floor to oppose this dangerous Resolution.”
The tomatoes which, as Baron records, were thrown at the convoy of American military vehicles as they passed through the Czech Republic to position themselves close to the Russian border, attest to the enthusiasm with which people living in the “theatre” will no doubt be reacting to the vote of the bought men in the Congress of whores.
I would recommend that, in this context, CHWs contemplate the update on the missing nuclear weapons scandal provided by Alex Jones last Sunday and what this might presage in terms of impending false flags by the White House crime force:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sUTuJJVUwMk
Meanwhile, in the economy all is well as Buffet effects the merger of Heinz and Kraft.
Hooray!
PfM – 11:48
Do you have a link?
I found this, from 2008:
Islamic sharia courts in Britain are now ‘legally binding’
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1055764/Islamic-sharia-courts-Britain-legally-binding.html
Is it still the case?
“Shadow home secretary Dominic Grieve said: ‘These tribunals have no place in passing binding decisions in divorce or criminal justice hearings.
‘Far from handling more criminal cases. They should be handling none at all.
‘British law is absolute and must remain so.'”
Did we get any action when he was in a position to do something about it?
PoM 1139
I get a new IP address for my broadband connection each time i restart the router.
And i post on here using my mobile, my laptop tethered to my mobile and on my current work network.
IP addresses say very little
and using them to detect location is very unreliable.
Alexsandr, of course. And telemachus could still be running sock puppets on here using different networks. But I do pick up gross and obvious breaches of the no sock puppet rule.
He was a street preacher and I guess he is blunt. But we are supposed to have freedom of speech. A gay man came up to him and started and aggressive conversation and the Bible was used to indicate the Christian condemnation of homosexual practice. The Muslim judge found him guilty of an offence for having done so. (I am not necessarily supporting the street preacher in his methods, they are not ones I think useful, but if it is permitted to hold banners saying that Islam is coming and will sort us all out soon, then using the Bible in a conversation should surely be permitted in what is/was a Christian country.) I think that a Muslim judge is problematic.
Baron- I enjoyed your Der Spiegel link.
That woman is the personification of authoritarianism that led to the two world wars.
She is even more dangerous than the leaders of the Third Reich in that she is stealing the main players of Europe with a winning smile while she has their arms up their back.
Spiegel is correct that the Fourth Reich is with us.
Sounds like an orchestrated political stitch up to me. Muslim judge finds in favour of gay activist?
Hmm.
Still puzzled as to why the Bible should be an element in a public order offence. Free speaking hellfire and brimstone preachers have always been part of the fabric of our society. I remember them as a child on the streets of London, shouting out dire warnings, Bible in hand, for all sorts of sins and transgressions, including demon drink, and one could/can just ignore them rather than taking offence in order to advance a specific alternative agenda.
I’m beginning to find the sinister conspiracy theorists more and more plausible. We appear to have gone through an extreme ideological revolution in UK that has seriously curtailed our liberties without most people even realising it.
I have just returned from a trip to our local wood yard, to drive there necessitates a drive into and out the other side of our small town, the town was full of infant, junior and senior school pupils all of them on their way home.
The time was 2,05pm, when do teachers work?
David Ossitt – 15:38
It’s called “Enrichment” and it’s Wednesday, David.
Your local “bog standard” runs the following sessions:
Morning Enrichment: 7:45amβ8.30am – Mon-Fri.
Student Enrichment: 3:30pm onwards – Mon, Tues, Thurs.
2:00pm onwards – Wed, Fri.
They’ll probably learn more on the streets anyway.
Could it be grooming gangs awareness week this week?
They’re getting 2 1/2 weeks off for easter too !
Speculation about the planes windscreen cracking and Pilots being incapacitated.
This is 2015 not a problem with comet windows 50 years ago.
Jennifer Oldham – 13:24
“Spiegel is correct that the Fourth Reich is with us.”
Assuming Spiegel employs some Germans, it must be self-parody, so there is hope for us all, including the Germans.
Still no names for the crew of the plane crash.
How long does it take to create a new identity.
I suspect its Harry from Glasgows German cousin.
RobertC @ 11:35
There’s now a full and total disconnect between the governed and those in governance, Robert, that’s why the latter can get away with everything it decides on, be it the ‘settled science’ on global warming, Russia as the biggest threat to humanity, ISIL, the other jihadi groupings having nothing to do with Islam …
Elections no longer matter, the political elites in every major Western country sing from the same hymn sheet, only some smaller countries’ politicians feel uncomfortable about it, it’s only a matter of time they’ll be whipped into the fold, too.
That’s why the May count here is so crucial. Baron doesn’t agree with everything the UKIP party stands for, but it’s the breaking up of the cozy club informed by Common Purpose doctrine that’ the aim. Failing that, we’ll have to wait for another Tyler, one that hopefully won’t get fooled easily by a prince.
Baron – 18:56
It is the breaking up of the cozy club that is required.
Who knows what will happen in five years time, apart from CMD, of course!
RobertC @ 12:31
The yapping by Teresa, the one with the penchant for Blahnik shoes, that the Tories will look into the sharia court network, happens only because it’s days before the election. Baron can promise you it will come to nothing if the Tories were to get in. It’s always the same – promises upon promises before, a commission to probe the issue (if that) after the election, the end result – FA.
You recall the Terry Martin case, he got charged with murder (August 1999) when his farmhouse was broken into, he shot a man? Well, both Labour and the Tories promised to look into the ‘reasonably force’ test in the criminal law before the 2001 election. Labour won (the quiet landslide), did look, found everything fine.
Jennifer Oldham @ 13:24
One may agree or disagree with the German Frau, but the association with the the Nazis may be a step too far, Jennifer. Baron says it not because he reckons Merkel stands way above the other EU politicians (not that he agrees with all her policies, mind). He says it because often an overblown hyperbolic comparison can be counterproductive. The Germans (not unlike the Russian) like not when someone kicks their leader (even if he/she’s a budding fΓΌhrer), there sense of humor doesn’t extend that far.
Apologies for the ‘the’ errors, it should have been ‘the Common purpose doctrine’, and ‘the Nazis’. Sorry for the other error s, too.
Colonel Mustard @ 13:27
Free speaking hellfire and brimstone preachers (of the Bible) on our streets are being replaced by jihadists with cleavers in their hands, Colonel. The country has moved on, you know (only joking).
What happened to your posting on the Spectator site, the one that ranked you top of some 500 postings? Baron was to congratulate you, cannot find it there. Why has it disappeared?
The West’s academic institutions are oblivious to the dangers of their actions:
Anti-Islamist Talk Cancelled At Trinity College Over Fear Of βAntagonisingβ Muslim Students
http://www.breitbart.com/london/2015/03/24/anti-islamist-talk-cancelled-at-trinity-college-over-fear-of-antagonising-muslim-students/
It’s not only Nemtsov who is no longer with us, in Ukraine politicians appear to be departing this world to pastures new, too.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-31855700
David Ossitt at 07-58
English edition of Charlie Hebdo
David Ossitt at 07-58
English edition of Charlie Hebdo:
http://www.bustle.com/articles/59118-where-to-get-charlie-hebdo-in-english-wherever-you-are
English tribute magazine to Charlie Hebdo:
http://t.co/GAPoU7Wg8Y
Interesting comments, but still guessing:
Terror in the Alps?
http://gatesofvienna.net/2015/03/terror-in-the-alps/
But the White House appears to have the answer, before having any information:
First Images Of Germanwings Crash Debris Emerge; White House Says “No Indication Of Terrorism”
“While the White House, seemingly an expert in determining airplane crashes causes within hours if not minutes of the accident (see flight MH-17) has already opined on the tragic crash of the Lufthansa Germanwings airplane:
WHITE HOUSE: NO INDICATION OF TERRORISM IN AIRPLANE CRASH”
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2015-03-24/first-images-germanwings-crash-debris-emerge-white-house-says-no-indication-terroris
For decades in Britain people have referred to the E.U. as `The Fourth Reich`…..or as `The Franco-German Reich`
European monetary policy : “This is all a German racket designed to take over the whole of Europe” : Nicholas Ridley M.P told Dominic Lawson (editor of the Spectator) in July 1990.
This leading article was supported by a notorious cover cartoon showing Ridley painting a Hitler mustache on a poster of Chancellor Kohl.
This was republished in Sept. 2011:see also `comments`.
blogs.spectator.co.uk/coffeehouse/2011/09/from-the-archives-ridley-was-right/
Above:
http://blogs.spectator.co.uk/coffeehouse/2011/09/from-the-archives-ridley-was-right/
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2015-03-25/putin-security-council-slams-obama-attempts-new-world-order
I think that Putin must have become an addict to the Alex Jones Show – only that could account for his bizarre and paranoid analysis of the geopolitical scene. You have been warned! Stay off the drug!
Ayaan Hirsi Ali: Teaching the Koran will only encourage teens to join Isis
Ayaan Hirsi Ali: βI would have gone to Syria. My parents laid the foundationβ
http://www.thetimes.co.uk/tto/life/article4392866.ece
The truth will out!
SHERIFF RICHARD MACK, founder and head of the Constitutional Sheriffs and Peace Officers Association (cspoa.org), was interviewed by Alex Jones on Wednesday and the interview starts at the beginning of the 2nd hours at:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nbtxQYkrgt0
This is essential viewing for anyone concerned at the constitutional crisis which the USA is going through and who hopes for a peaceful solution to it and for the return of the American republic.
So one of the pilots was locked out of the cockpit and tried to smash the door down till the plane crashed.
The pilot at the controls wouldn’t (or couldent) let him in and gave no mayday calls.
I think the door being locked tells us what happened.
I tried many times to find out the names of the crew. Absolutely nothing that I could find anywhere.
It was very suspicious the other pilots in the fleet refused to fly.
There’s a lot more to this that I am sure they know about.
Youssef Mohamed E., a 22-year-old Lebanese man, is one of two persons suspected of trying to carry out bomb attacks on regional trains from Cologne, Germany, in July 2006. His fellow students were stunned. They couldnβt imagine how one of their fellow students could be a terrorist, a train bomber. He was a βcompletely normal guyβ said one of them. βHe was friendly, polite, inconspicuous,β and he never spoke ill of anyone. The publication of caricatures depicting the Prophet Mohammed was interpreted by Youssef as an insult to Islam by the Western world, and triggered the attempted terror attack.
Muhammad Atta was named by the FBI as the pilot of American Airlines Flight 11, the first plane to crash into the World Trade Center during the September 11, 2001 attacks. He was also a student in Germany, where he was described as quiet, polite and inconspicuous. This strategy of using religious deception, smiling to the infidels while plotting to kill them, has become a common feature of many would-be Jihadists in the West.
According to Robert Spencer, secular clothing is actually in accord with instructions in a captured Al-Qaeda manual to appear to be a secular, assimilated Muslim with no interest in religion. In renting an apartment, βIt is preferable to rent these apartments using false names, appropriate cover, and non-Moslem appearance.β And in general: βHave a general appearance that does not indicate Islamic orientation (beard, toothpick, book, [long] shirt, small Koran)β¦.Be careful not to mention the brothersβ common expressions or show their behaviors (special praying appearance, βmay Allah reward youβ, βpeace be on youβ while arriving and departing, etc.).β
If you haven’t read the full article from 2006 I posted , you should do.
Ask yourself, ‘is it worth it saving such a world’?
http://www.theguardian.com/culture/2015/mar/26/hot-prospect-russell-brand-voted-worlds-fourth-most-influential-thinker
Some thoughts on the Science and Politics of AGW:
https://notalotofpeopleknowthat.wordpress.com/2015/02/23/thoughts-from-leo-smith/
John birch
March 26th, 2015 – 05:28
I have deliberately restrained from comments and speculating on this tragedy, To awful for words. However, I will just state that I am sure that if a terrorist, insane or termed islamic is discovered to have caused this outrage, then the powers that be will do their outmost to play down the guilt of a whole so-called religion, and try and cover up the truth,
On a lighter vein, the DM reports that Jeremy Clarke returned home ‘with female companions’. No wonder the BBC gave him the boot. A rare heterosexual man in a mire of pooftas and lesbians – the BBC!
Clarkson – apologies.
Baron, disturbing I agree. But in all of these survey results it is best to consider: Who was asked? What limited choices were they presented with? And to what extent is the audience ignorant of what real thought, or taste, or culture etc might be?
βWhy NOT vaccinating my kids was the best decision I ever madeβ: Mother of EIGHT had six of her babies vaccinated but refused to immunise her two youngestβ¦ and says theyβre the only ones without chronic health problems
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-3008822/Tasha-David-chose-not-vaccinate-children-SIX-older-kids-suffered-autism-language-disorders-ADHD.html
And yet in the US, it is becoming compulsory.
“The Ministry of Defense (MoD) is reporting today that dispatches from the Northern Fleet (NF) appear to show that yesterdays downing of Germanwings Flight 4U 9525 in southern France yesterday was the βdirect resultβ of a failed US Air Force test of its High Energy Liquid Laser Area Defense System (HELLADS) attempting to shoot down an ICBM reentry vehicle, but which, instead, destroyed this civilian airliner killing all 150 aboard.”. http://www.whatdoesitmean.com/index1852.htm
(h/t public intelligence blog)
Malfleur, I have to say that report looks a pile of something, especially since it now seems that the pilot was locked out of the cabin in the moments before the plane started descending. A mid air explosion would not have allowed the descent of the plane to continue to be tracked and would have left very large fragments. Hitting a mountain at speed is what destroyed the plane so throroughly. I’m waiting to read about the psychological and personal background of the pilot left in the cabin!
So if the copilot nips to the loo, why does the senior steward not step into the cockpit?
Peter frpm Maidstone
An American friend says that the MOD report is “hogwash”. It is certainly strange that the names of the pilots have not yet been released…
News conference saying the co pilot crashed the plane deliberately. He controlled the plane. Never said a word. And was breathing normall till impact.
As expected. So suicide or terrorism???.
My American friend in response to my comment that perhaps the pilot was muslim “No, it has just been announced that he was German”. I responded “Yes, but was he muslim…”.
What is the world coming to?
Kenyan restaurant bans black Africans after 5pm
“The rule at the creatively-named Chinese Restaurant in Nairobi was simple: after 5pm, no black Africans could enter the premises. Since the Daily Nation newspaper first reported this shocking story on Monday, Kenyans have taken to social media to express their outrage. Much of the anger has been directed at Kenyaβs rapidly growing Chinese community.
Esther Zhao, a manager with the Chinese Restaurant, said that the measure had been taken for security reasons, especially after the dining establishment was held up by armed robbers in 2013. She also mentioned rising terrorist threats in the capital.
βWe donβt admit Africans that we donβt know because you never know who is Al-Shabaab and who isnβt,β Zhao told the Nairobi News. βIt is not like it is written on somebodyβs face that they are a thug armed with a gun.β ”
http://observers.france24.com/content/20150325-kenya-racist-chinese-restaurant-nairobi-sonko
http://kingworldnews.com/paul-craig-roberts-world-war-iii-imminent-and-all-human-life-is-now-in-grave-danger/
why is the cockpit door lockable anyway?
to me on the balance of risk I would say a jihadi pilot crashing the plane is more of a risk than someone storming the cockpit.
I flew with GW last dec. a nice well run airline. Then one twat destroys it (possibly)
Alexsandr – 12:23
Didn’t they storm the cockpit in 9-11?
Looks like the investigator has fingered the co-pilot, who is now named, as deliberately crashing the plane.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/europe/france/11491587/Airbus-A320-crashes-in-French-Alps-with-148-people-on-board-live.html
I am still curious as to why other pilots from the fleet wouldn’t fly their planes.
They know something we don’t yet.
Will Jeremy Clarkson be replaced by Claire Balding? π
βRussell Brand has been voted the world’s fourth most influential thinker by readers of the current affairs magazine Prospect.β
If this slime βball is the world’s fourth most influential thinker then the non-existing wart on my little finger must be ranked in the top ten.
Alexsandr March 26th, 2015 – 12:23
“why is the cockpit door lockable anyway?”
To keep the towel heads out!
Anne, the new team will be Claire Balding, Adam and his farm from Countryfile, and Jamie Oliver.
anne wotana kaye March 26th, 2015 – 14:59
βWill Jeremy Clarkson be replaced by Claire Baldingβ
Call me simple but I do think that this silly young woman might benefit from some hanky-panky with a man.
The man should be called Roger.
They would probably prefer Zeta Holbourne for Top Gear.
http://bit.ly/1EIKdtd
If any one is suggesting Clair needs rogering put me on the list, I’m prepared to lay back and think of England.
I probably won’t mention my generous offer to my wife, they get the wrong idea sometimes.
What about Dave, Ed and Nick taking over Top Gear and leaving politics? It could hardly be less of a a car crash!
Peter 17.10
And for the stig there’s only one man , fearless and totally free of political correctness, it’s = TELLYTUBY
After a few bad experiences ‘flying’ to Army and Crown Agents assighnments in the sixties and seventies, ‘er indoors has long needed liquid medication before flying. Now I’m NEVER going to be able get her on to a ‘plane!
One of the questions that none of the TV anchors have so far asked, regarding Andreas Lubitz, is: “What is his religion?”
Seems a reasonable one, under the circumstances.
Radford NG – 16:37
“Holbourne is also a co-founder of BARAC UK which, translated from alphabet soup, stands for Black Activists Rising Against Cuts.”
No, not those sort of cuts. That’s cultural enrichment.
Elsa might be a bit annoyed with you:
Andreas Lubitz: ‘White Christian’ Germanwings crash pilot ‘should be called a terrorist’
“Why in the world would Lubitz religion be relevant?”
http://www.ibtimes.co.uk/andreas-lubitz-white-christian-germanwings-crash-pilot-should-be-called-terrorist-1493716
Frank P March 26th, 2015 – 17:36
βWhat is his religion?β
βSeems a reasonable one, under the circumstances.β
To any normal individual it does sound reasonable Frank but the western media are in thrall to the delicate and tender feelings of the evil religion, we see evidence of this every day.
19th March 2014,
http://www.popularmechanics.com/flight/a10270/in-light-of-mh370-evidence-could-plane-cockpits-be-too-secure-16611747/
Among the “most watched videos” at the DM site today is an Airbus clip of the emergency procedures for unlocking the cabin door from the outside. The purser has the code. The captain, who in some – but not all – reports on the Germanwings crash had left the cabin, also had the code.
Malfleur at 22-17
This is Airbus.It is not necessarily operators’ policy.The issue has been put in `comment`columns.The answer is terrorists could force crew members to open the door.
About 2-15pm local time on 11 September 2001 as I saw on live BBC TV the second aircraft swing in towards the Twin Towers I thought:”This is war”.
These problems would not have arisen if those who bow-down five times a day in the direction of a lump of cosmic rubble that fell-down from the sky thousands(?)of years ago into a cruddy oasis town in southern arabia had not adopted hi-jacking airliners as a means of`direct action`.
AND:who will have an EU referendum within 6 months of being elected?
Madam Le Pen pledges a referendum on EU if elected as President in 2017.
She tells Greek tv:-If they elect me,six months later there will be be a referendum.Also she tells Greeks:- Greeks should get currency back;exit eurozone rather then be controlled by Germany.
The attached comments say that in the French local elections Le Penn got 25.24%….the orthodox right 20.88…..(equals 46.13%)…..Socialists 13%.
For above see
http://bit.ly/1H0cj3e
Remote control is another suggested cause of the German aircrash, as it has been for 9/11.
The problem in the present case is that while the black box voice recorder has been found, the corresponding data recorder is still missing. It is unfortunate that authorities are blaming the co-pilot at this point in their investigation.
I don’t expect this to surprise anyone here, it’s what we would suspect.
Father of ‘jihadi bride’ schoolgirl attended 2012 Islamist rally http://dailym.ai/1CeRXCh
You don’t have to be mad to fly for German Wings – but it helps!
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3013743/Germanwings-pilot-slipped-safety-net-devastating-consequences.html
Mm..
Pilot: Former cabin crew: Girlfriend? Burnout: or Bumout?
EC
I am ready to believe it; but I have been conditioned over the last few years to believe NOTHING government or its organs put out until tested. It seems in this case that there has been a rush to judgment and that the co-pilot, conveniently dead as a door-nail, has been declared guilty without a careful investigation and, in particular, without input from the data recorder box.
Am I a trouble-maker?
Malfleur – 10:42
Not at all, you make a very valid point.
Like you said he’s “conveniently dead”, it’s an open goal for the powers that be innit?
We’ll never know. The only winners are going to be the TV documentary program makers.
I know somebody that flies 747s for a major airline carrier who was grounded for six months after reporting feeling momentarily disorientated prior to a landing. He passed a full medical with flying colours (no pun intended) but still got the gardening leave! Told to lay off black coffee, though, unless decaffeinated! He was really put through the mill before being allowed to fly again too.
It’s hard to believe that German Wings’ standards for pilots are, reportedly, so low. Today the worrying question for passengers is, are German Wings really the only airline with such, reportedly, low standards?
On the darker side: An unfortunately worded advertising poster:
“London Tube bosses forced to pull adverts for German Wings in wake of tragedy ”
http://dailym.ai/1xk0ZyI
EC – 12:31
Whether or not the co-pilot is guilty, it does seem surprising that a pilot’s sick notes can be hoarded, so his employer is oblivious to his illness.
EC – 12:37
“A Transport for London spokesman confirmed they were taking the posters down as quickly as possible. ”
A Transport for London spokesman confirmed they were taking the posters down as SOON as possible.
Malfleur March 27th, 2015 – 10:42
“Am I a trouble-maker?”
Yes but an entertaining one, with style.
Frank P
March 26th, 2015 – 17:36
I know you do not much like me commenting on your posts
But is this an anti Catholic remark (most Germans are Lutheran or Catholic)
Or did you really wish to draw attention to his nationality
Not that a true German could be a mass murderer
Malfleur 1042
You are correct to ask
Western pilots doing Hari Kari are almost unknown
Very convenient that the German Police found a sick note
I would like them to produce the doctor who wrote it
I am reminded of Bernhard KrΓΌger
(17:10)
No me old China! Merely pointing out that a very pragmatic question had not apparently been mooted. Very remiss of both cops and hacks. Another one would be, “Is he ginger beer?” He looked a little light on his loafers. ’28 year old bachelors’ are always a bit sussy.
But my real reason for posing it was to provoke your usual intervention which although a little tardy, was entirely predictable. π
BTW tele:
http://www.breitbart.com/london/2015/03/26/everyone-assumes-that-the-german-air-disaster-wasnt-terrorism-because-the-pilot-wasnt-muslim-and-whats-wrong-with-that/
Brilliant Frank
“How come Andreas Lubitz is not branded a terrorist? Imagine he was of a Muslim background. Twitter would be in meltdown.
12:47 PM – 26 Mar 2015”
*
But my point related to his German Nationality and mass murder
tellytubby@1855
that is awful xenophobia against Germans.
Alexandr
I suggest you read Kramer:Dynamic of Destruction
Drawing on a wide array of secondary literature and archival research in Germany and Italy, Dynamic of Destruction analyzes European cultures during the First World War. Alan Kramer provides a stimulating synthesis of many of the major findings regarding the cultural history of the war from 1914-18. His book is full of rich narrative details often left out of more conventional histories of the First World War, particularly in regards to German atrocities in Belgium and the experience of war on the Italian front.
Kramer argues the First World War functioned on a βdynamic of destruction,β which resulted in βthe most extensive cultural devastation and mass killing Europe since the Thirty Years Warβ .A cultural tendency to seek total annihilation of the enemy–army, society, and artistic heritage–was primarily responsible for producing this dynamic. For example, in his first chapter Kramer uses contemporary accounts from Belgian civilians, German soldiers, and the international press to show that the German army deliberately targeted the library of Louvain in 1914. The burning of the library was not the byproduct of industrialized warfare but the result of a deliberate military policy of cultural destruction.
As Alan Kramer concluded
The brutal combination of human destruction and cultural norms was not some kind of natural consequence of war but the logical extension of human violence, as it was (and is) in the Nation spirit.
This in relation to his writings on the dreadful Belgian atrocities
We do not need to go as far as the National Socialists
Some CHW readers may, or may not, be interested in this:
http://www.amazon.co.uk/Black-Record-Germans-Past-Present/dp/B000L99SYE
I have a copy, and it’s stirring stuff! It’s basically a transcript of three or four half hour BBC Home Service radio broadcasts given by Sir Robert (later Baron) Vansittart in early 1941.
Wartime propaganda, and he was really good at it!
a) In 1941 we weren’t winning.
b) It was broadcast/published to remove any lingering doubts about how the Germans might treat us if they ever took over.
An illustrious career:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_Vansittart,_1st_Baron_Vansittart
19:32 Tripe.
19:43 More tripe.
h/t Nigel Farage [ β@Nigel_Farage 5 minutes ago]
“Imagine for a second that this was a UKIP councillor… Where’s the establishment outrage?”
http://www.scunthorpetelegraph.co.uk/Labour-Party-expulsion-ends-decades-work/story-26231865-detail/story.html
Well, that’s one less xxxx in Scunthorpe for the time-being π
Things to look forward to from LabCon after the election (they will form a joint coalition along those lines if they have to – even if it’s only for certain Bilderbergian acts of parliament that close down free speech):
1) Exponential tax rises (see PMQs this week for that dirty little secret) – I emphasise that is both Lab and Con (there is no difference)
2) The enactment of Leveson (put on ice so it could be done in the first year of a new parliament – when the voters are at their most powerless) to close off internet freedom of speech (under the guise of regulating newspapers – which it won’t really)
3) An act of parliament to classify Muslims as a race and not a religion, just to help close down free speech on that
LabCon – an Orwellian nightmare. For the first time in stereo.
For some insight into the penetration of the White House by muslims and its policies by islamic interests, see Michael Savage’s interviews on Thursday with Walid Shoebat and Ayaan Hirsi Ali:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SKdLrDmI1a0
In particular, it seems Mr. Bergdahl’s muslim dad was the go-between Obama and the islamicist terrorist group in the negotiations which resulted in the release of the Taliban leaders to Qatar in exchange for the return of Mr. Bergdahl who is now charged with desertion by the US Army at which Al Obama is presumably a bit miffed.
Dr. Savage becomes somewhat excited as the scale of treason in the White House is confirmed.
Just as well, hearing his anger and dismay, that the Coalition government continues the New Labour government’s policy of keeping Michael Savage out of the United Kingdom as an expression of its quota policy to balance somewhat the number of muslims it has to ban from entry with at least one Jew. As the only western media figure denied entry to our country by successive Home Secretaries, Dr. Savage should feel pleased at this implementation of a policy which to my mind, though I am native here and to the manner born, is a policy more honor’d in the breach than the observance.
As a follow up to the photo of my Thai golliwog bag tags, which Peter kindly posted here some months ago after my visit to Chiang Mai, perhaps he can do me the same favour with the photo of the latest such outrage found here:
http://www.breitbart.com/london/2015/03/27/sweet-injustice-french-bakery-ordered-to-remove-racist-cakes/
Bite me!
Is anyone else watching the remake of bodice-ripping Cornshire drama, “Poldark”?
On the whole, I think it a passable dramatization which does justice to the original, but it was disappointing to see a fat, be-Stetsoned American in the last episode, waving a pitchfork and trying to pass himself off as a tin miner.
One expects better from the BBC.
From Clovelly, Cornshire?
MONSANTO is good for you
I think the French journalist in this short clip is a lousy conspiracy theorist:
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2015-03-27/im-not-stupid-monsanto-lobbyist-refuses-drink-weedkiller-after-proclaiming-it-wont-h
There are some beautiful eulogies out there on the web
This from a US internet site
“Once an angel on earth, now watching over us from heaven”
Ooook Ook Ook-Ook:
Ooook!Ooook! Ooook!
EC Vansittart’s main contribution was to make the Establishment understand that our future interests were not the Empire but Continental Europe.
It remains so.
@08:21
I refer the commenter to Colonel Mustard’s aforegoing response to telemachus:
Colonel Mustard, March 27th, 2015 – 20:31
19:32 Tripe.
19:43 More tripe.
Please append “08:21 Bollocks” to his list, thanks.
Whenever I am told about Quilliam, a ‘moderate’ Muslim organisation, Majeed Nawaz (campaigning without any mainstream media outrage as a Lib Dem candidate and a former member of HisButt Diarrhoea – or Hizb ut-Tahrir for Jennifer and Tele), I know I am being lied to.
I know that taqqya is being used. And that sneakiness and lies are in the air. For that is in obeyance with the instruction of the Paedoprophet Mohammed (peace be upon him).
Can you imagine Tommy Robinson trying to stand for parliament in the way that Majeed Nawaz has been able to? For heaven’s sake. Even if you can’t imagine that, look at the treatment of UKIP candidates by the MSM. Majeed Nawaz is treated like Thora Hird.
And we saw it again when those three jihadist girls went out to join ISIS. The parents were treated like royalty and invitied into Parliament for a big taqqya sobfest about how it was all the fault of the police. But now we find:
Pictured: Father who blamed police for not stopping his daughter joining ISIS screams ‘burn USA’ – and stands just feet from Lee Rigby’s killer – at Muslim demo
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3015311/Pictured-Father-blamed-police-not-stopping-daughter-joining-ISIS-screams-burn-USA-stands-just-feet-Lee-Rigby-s-killer-Muslim-demo.html
Like Tele and Jennifer, these Muslims are just full of lies. The fact that it’s their religion to use taqqya and spiteful lies at every opportunity doesn’t make it right. It only shows their religion should be given no respect at all. It’s a pack of lies.
Slippery Dave has gone quiet on this. Another post-election treat the MSM is hushing up, take it away Mr Cameron:
“Itβs not enough, as I have said many times, for a party like the Conservatives just to open the door and say come on in if all you see are a sea of white Christian faces. You need to see people from your own communities getting to the top of the army, getting to the top of the legal profession,getting to the top of business and yes getting to the topic of the Conservative party and politics too.
“The truth is we are going to build that strong inclusive and vibrant society we need more role models like this. Many more Muslim men and women at the top of British businesses , many more Muslim soldiers in the highest levels of command and of course more Muslims in our parliament so there is not just one Muslim in the cabinet and one in the shadow cabinet but British Muslims all across government in positions of leadership and authority.”
People like Majeed Nawaz and Conservative party candidate Afzal Amin, who was caught red-handed using that thing that Muslims use every day of their lives.
I can’t remember what it’s called – oh, what’s it called again – lying through your teeth every day of your life – oh, wait, yes, taqqya.
If you listened to some people like Jennifer and Tele, you’d think it didn’t exist. But taqqya and the Tory party go together hand in glove:
Star Tory candidate plotted with race thugs to stage fake EDL demo in cynical bid to win votes
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3005845/Exposed-Star-Tory-candidate-plotted-race-thugs-stage-fake-EDL-demo-cynical-bid-win-votes.html
Who knew? Not Tele and Jennifer.
I rarely read any of the clickbait written by Fraser Nelson, but there was a laugh-out-loud headline he wrote yesterday: ‘Public satisfaction is high, but the Tories are not getting the credit’, complete with a picture of Taqqya Dave with his sleeves rolled up (geddit????!!!!)
You can skip the Tory taqqya and just enjoy the reader comments:
cornedbeefmuncher
Our country is becoming unrecognizable, the PM hates us because of our skin colour, he bends over to Brussels and Berlin at every demand, he’s squandering billions on an overseas slush fund, he sold off state assets so his pals could make huge profits, he’s destroyed the armed forces, he lied about immigration, he lied about his cast iron referendum and he completely soiled himself at the thought of TV debates.
You’ve a few extra quid though; yes, aren’t the Tories great?
Crazy Days (in response to Taqqya Nelson):
House prices 10 times the average national wage and rising = increased public satisfaction?
Primary schools over subscribed and where English isn’t even the majority language in most of them = increased public satisfaction?
Cramped unrealible cattle trains and public transport with the prices rising way beyond the quality of service for the money = increased public satisfaction?
A police service that doesn’t respond to most thefts/incidents outside of monitoring facebook/twitter = increased public satisfaction?
A judicary that gives rapist/muggists/theives and peados a slap on the wrist if they are even brought before a judge in the first place = increased public satisfaction?
Paying into a pension scheme that you’ve no idea will be worth anything at the end of your years and if you’re even going to live long enough to rightly claim any of it back? = increased public satisfaction?
Being told you’re a racist because you don’t want to see British Culture washed away to appease the left wing self loathers = increased public satisfaction?
Prove to me you’ve spoken to the “public” and tell me about this “increasedd satisfaction” you claim they feel, or fess up and admit you’ve made it all up like a good little propagandist.
I hope you choke on your 30 pieces of silver, Judas.
Tickety Boo (In response to Taqqya Nelson):
We’ve been enriched 5 million times since his coming to power, does he really want the credit for that?
labour fraudster..
http://www.scunthorpetelegraph.co.uk/Labour-Party-expulsion-ends-decades-work/story-26231865-detail/story.html
This is a reader comment also copied from Taqqya Nelson’s Shariagraph propaganda. This is now third hand, because that reader copied it from Breitbart, but it’s worth sharing:
foxoles
Apologies for length – but can’t do better than copy Voldemortsdaddy’s comment from Breitbart (re last night’s debate but relevant to the topic of public dissatisfaction):
‘What is the point in a debate between two people that are as one on the vast majority of issues that matter?
It was a bit like watching Peter Tatchell and Julian Clary debating the virtues of gayness.
The old notions of left wing and right wing parties and policies has been rendered redundant by the homogenised, self defined ‘centre ground’ occupying LibLabCon politicians.
The population is waking up to the fact that the supposed choice between βleft wingβ Labour and βright wingβ Tory is a hoax.
Is it left wing or right wing to allow mass third world immigration into the country
so that even your capital city has only a small minority of English left in it?
Is it left wing or right wing to circumvent your nation’s democracy by handing over control to unelected European bureaucrats?
Is it left wing or right wing to insist that Islam is a religion of peace when history clearly shows us it is not?
Is it left wing or right wing to borrow billions of pounds in excess of your national income then give away billions of pounds to corrupt governments around the world?
Is it left wing or right wing to strip your armed forces to the bone yet send them into perpetual conflict?
As far as I can tell, the right wing Tories and left wing Labour are as one on
these issues. It rather makes the notion of left and right redundant.
If Cameron defected to Labour and Miliband to the Tories and they both ended up in coalition after the general election I doubt we would notice much change in the way the government conducted itself.
People are seeing the LibLabCon cartel for the lie it is and they donβt like it.
cargill55 (in response to Taqqya Nelson)”
Here is Camerons legacy, he deserves no credit.
-Growing islamic fundamentalism and tne islamisation of Britain.
-Continuing the big interfering state.
-Thieving Β£200 billion from pensioners and savers to give to borrowers and state spending.
-Falling living standards and soaring essentials inflation
-Broken state and personal finances.
-Uncontrolled immigration, a million immigrants a year.
-Selling out to the EU, refusing a referendum on Lisbon and advocating expansion with hundreds millions more joining.
-Failure to reform and cut the cost of the state sector.
-Failure to deal with the welfare disaster.
-Continuing to waste Β£12 billion a year overseas aid.
-Green energy zealotry killing pensioners and impoverishing us all.
-Destroying the military.yet helping Libya and wanting involvement in Syria
-Appalling border security and policing.
-Continuing multicultural extremism and political correctness.
-Gay marriage.
-Doing nothing about illegal immigrants.
-Decaying infrastructure.
-Collapsing education and health services.
-More erosion of our judicial independence through the ECHR and the EU
boudicca (in response to Taqqya Nelson):
Fraser has made the mistake of thinking that people will vote according to the issues which the Conservatives and Labour have decided are important (and vote winners).
In the case of the Conservatives, all they want to talk about is the economy. Labour will like to focus on the NHS.
Meanwhile, out there in the real world we’re fed up with hearing the same boring, tired propaganda.
What I will be voting on is SOVEREIGNTY.
I see little point voting for a Prime Minister who doesn’t even want to HAVE the power to govern the country. One who wants the EU to be able to control this country across huge swathes of policy – including the economy and welfare. Because, whether Fraser likes it mentioned or not, under the EU’s Treaties, we are required to run our economy in the wider interests of the EU. And we can’t reform our welfare state so that it provides for British citizens and not the poor of Eastern Europe – because the EU won’t allow it.
And we can’t control immigration – again – because the EU won’t allow it.
So my only criteria for selecting which Party I will vote for is:
DO THEY WANT TO GOVERN THE UK.
The only Party that does is UKIP.
Geordie Shaw
March 28th, 2015 – 10:55
*
But heed the sayings of Confucius
http://news.nationalgeographic.com/2015/03/150325-confucius-china-asia-philosophy-communist-party-ngbooktalk/
Better a thousand days of Cameron than a single hour of Farage
Whassat, tele?
I’m reading The Koran today:
‘Make war on the unbelievers and the hypocrites and deal rigorously with them. Hell shall be their home: an evil fate’
– that sounds more like you.
Why do you try to hide it?
I leave the Koran to others
I am reading the Gospels again:
If a man abide not in me, he is cast forth as a branch, and is withered; and men gather them, and cast them into the fire, and they are burned.οΏ½
– John, 15/6
He that believeth and is baptized shall be saved; but he that believeth not shall be damned.οΏ½
– Mark, 16/16
Ye serpents, ye generation of vipers, how can ye escape the damnation of hell?οΏ½
– Matthew, 23/33
Takes me back to my childhood in the Northern Methodist Chapels
Tele, you’ve been ramming Islam down people’s throats for years, you little taqqyamonger!
christianity believes in the afterlife you go to heaven or hell
Heaven is nice and hell is nasty and is hot.
Your quotes say that if you dont believe in god you go to hell when you die.
that is a big difference to the Koran inciting mohammedans to behead living people.
Theology not your strong point?
The taqqyamonger doesn’t understand the difference between the passive and active tenses.
This is an instruction (active):
Make war on the unbelievers and the hypocrites and deal rigorously with them.
This is an expected observation (passive):
… he that believeth not shall be damned
It is not an instruction. It does not ask anyone to do the damming: it will be brought upon themselves.
Jennifer Oldham
March 23rd, 2015 – 13:44
Anne.
To me the problem is not that they have infiltrated power.
Rather that they are frustrated for lack of power in their ghetto life.
That’s odd, because today there’s a story about yet another Muslim lawyer, loaded to the gills with power and using it every which way to swizz the infidels – all the way to parliament. ‘Ghetto’ and ‘lack of power’ – this is the talk of a taqqya liar.
The worrying extremist links to lawyer of jihadi schoolgirl’s father: Solicitor says Muslims shouldn’t co-operate with police and that Lee Rigby killer was ‘created’ by security services
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3015409/Lawyer-jihadi-schoolgirl-s-father-worrying-links-extremists-Solicitor-says-Muslims-shouldn-t-operate-police-Lee-Rigby-killer-created-security-services.html
Jennifer, don’t lie to my face. I’ve read The Koran and know you’re a liar.
Geordie Shaw March 28th, 2015 – 11:53
Geordie Shaw March 28th, 2015 – 14:07
See above
Keep up the good work.
I thought I had seen all the straw man, pantomime opponent propaganda they could throw at the voters, but each day brings a new fiction.
Poll after lying poll pretends it’s a close contest between… two parties whose membership has plummeted in the past five years – and at least three others whose membership has been climbing.
But to add to this list:
Cameron – he’s your friend against Miliband (lie – he will vote jointly with Miliband if it comes down to a de facto coalition)
Cameron – he’s your friend against Salmond (lie – he would do a deal with Salmond if it kept him in power)
Today we have one that was conceived with Lynton Crosby bent over double in fits of laughter:
Cameron – he’s your friend against pro-immigration Tory MPs
No kidding. They’re spinning that like it’s real.
“David Cameron vows to keep ‘impossible’ migration target”
“In an exclusive interview with The Telegraph, the Prime Minister rejects calls from Tory colleagues to abandon the goal of cutting net migration to ‘the tens of thousands'”
So this is a man who has done nothing to cut immigration, whose propagandists Alistair Heath, Fraser Nelson et al are spend all their time trying to cover up for this broken promise (it’s more simply called a ‘lie’) by saying that rising immigration is good and now, wait for it folks, he’s on your side with an aim, a target.
Not an action. Oh no, we couldn’t possibly do anything about it. No. What would be the point of the smoke and mirrors of rhetoric if we did something about it? And there’s not a cat in hell’s chance of the Tory party – under whatever leader – letting down the globalists, the EU, the Bilderbergers, the Rothermere family, the Barclay twins, the Martin Sorrells and so on and actually doing something.
No. It’s the target. Yes. He wants to keep that target.
Because the target makes him look like a strong man on your side. Not the reality though. Please don’t ask about that. You can ask about the target. Not the reality.
And if you think there’s a difference between a target Cameron has just spent five years lying to your face about cutting (‘no ifs, no buts’) and actually doing something about next time, how do you know this proven liar is on your side this time round? Because other Tory MPs want more immigration, but strong man Cameron is on your side. There’s no straw man spin there, is there?
Vote Tory. You know it makes sense.
“Cameron β heβs your friend against pro-immigration Tory MPs
No kidding. Theyβre spinning that like itβs real.”
Lost for words. He, and his predecessors, have turned my home town (well, city) into somewhere else entirely. They have been ignoring warnings for years and, worse, have contributed to the defamation of people who have had the audacity to complain about what was happening (eg: Ray Honeyford), and now they want me to believe that they are going to do something about it?
Torch and pitchfork time is fast approaching. Unless something changes, perhaps with UKIP’s help, there is going to be serious unrest in this country. Either as a domino effect following unrest in another EU country, or because a truly nasty party comes along and otherwise decent people support it out of desperation.
It’s not looking good.
My current prediction for the election:
A Conservative Labour coalition to ‘keep out’ the bad fish smell of the Gorbals and the ‘Blazered OAP scum’ of England.
Time to burn our library cards in protest outside the town halls of the comrades and their hangers on.
I have been working in the garden this afternoon
As I turned over the stones
Noa, that discussion has taken place behind closed doors and the idea of a LabCon coaltion has been floated in the Guardian and blogged about by Peter Hitchens.
They may not want it to be seen like that so I think they may use the coming economic crisis as a smokescreen for some sort of emergency coalition, an idea examined by Hitchens.
My own view, Anne, is that the UK is finished. Its island status has made it think it could escape invasion and takeover. If it had been a military campaign, it could have.
But the Gramscians, globalist, Bilderberg nexus know that the military is not where you start with a project like this (although you can exploit them to enforce it, once you’ve poisoned a nation’s thinking).
You need federal control, and control of the institutions people respect and trust. And stealth takeover has been mastered nowhere better than in Britain, where everyone obeys European law.
On the Continent, a lot of European law that is slavishly followed in Britain is actually ignored. That is why rebellion is least likely in the UK. Even UKIP is the most diluted of all the alternative parties forming in Europe.
The Bilderbergers have always worried about a Spanish civil war uprising, one in which people from outside a war zone might join in, in the way a lot of British people did in the Spanish civil war. That is the scenario you paint in your description of “a domino effect following unrest in another EU country”.
That is why the EU project must be held together. With federal control, they have a good chance of stopping that.
But as the Third World pours into crumbling Europe through Libya (a new mega-hub for Third World mass immigration into Europe officially engineered and even opened in a ceremony by its architect, David Cameron), something is likely to give.
I honestly believe that Theresa May’s new laws to stop jihadists leaving Britain (who voted for that? – everyone I know wants them to leave the UK) were also drafted to stop people joining in a Spanish civil war style conflict in the way George Orwell did, were one to break out on Continental Europe somewhere.
The racist murder of that 15-year-old white boy Alan Cartwright on Caledonian Road a few weeks back (in capital city – how very telling), when a black boy targeted him for his bike just because he was white, I wonder if a similar event taking place on the Continent like that will flip people on the Continent? They just can’t cope with the epidemic of Muslim on non-Muslim rape either. The people of Britain are supine at such murder and rape.
Peter Hitchens recently republished an article on the funeral of Winston Churchill, a lot of which I did not care for. What he was saying was that the funeral in essence marked the death of a nation (it was based on a chapter he wrote in the book The Abolition of Britain), because the generations that would follow were so broken from previous generations.
The parts I could not care for were the institutions, parliament and so on, which have all sold the people of the UK down the river.
But when he writes about the people lining the streets of the capital city, you understand why Hitchens calls himself an obituarist for the nation. It has gone. Its people no longer exist in its own captial city (for heaven’s sake).
Watching the funeral on video tape, he writes:
“While the occasion does not seem all that long ago to me, it turned out to be a shocking and painful journey into an almost entirely foreign country, lost and gone for ever. I remember, as a child, watching the immensely remote films of Franz Ferdinand at Sarajevo, or the buses and taxis of Paris heading out towards the Marne.
“Suddenly my own childhood looked like that; a vast parade of ghosts, legions of the dead, marching, singing, yelling commands, then in the full vigour of their prime, now elderly or gone, or living in exile in their own country.”…
…”And the ordinary soldiers and sailors were still imbued with the traditions of Waterloo and Trafalgar.
“They knew, as their grandchildren would not, who had fought at these battles, why, and where and when.
“The faces of the men were not padded and plumped by burgers and milkshakes, and untouched by weather as they are now, but hollow-cheeked, wind-burned old-fashioned English faces.”
And that’s who I mourned reading that. The people. Not the politicians, the leaders, the royals and so on. The people. They’ve gone from London forever. And they aren’t coming back. That is a country that has gone. Its people are, in many places, ghosts. And those who remain are “living in exile in their own country” – and rarely in the capital city, that’s for sure.
anyone know anything about this one?
#http://www.gloucestercitizen.co.uk/Gloucester-stalwart-Paul-Mathurin-jailed-raping/story-26231363-detail/story.html
is he anything to do with Labour?
Geordie Shaw: Sorry, I don’t believe there is such a thing as a “finished country”. Obviously as time goes on, the task becomes harder, but not impossible.
I have little time for Peter Hitchins. To me he’s just a contrarian and polemicist, constantly trying to justify his stance over and over again on a handful of pet issues. Anyone who started off as far left as he did lacks judgement, in my opinion.
There’ll be a civil war, or something approaching one, and the invaders will lose because, frankly, they aren’t up to much. They’re not up to much in the Middle East, and they’re not up to much here.
The Librarian at 05-16.
Uuckie!Uuckie!Uukie! indeed.
Interesting:
https://embed.theguardian.com/embed/video/world/video/2015/mar/26/airbus-safety-video-shows-cockpit-door-entry-procedure-germanwings-crash
Anne @ 21:37
When the Romans finally left around AD 420, the Saxons, Angels, Jutes began arriving thereafter the population of England stood around 5mn, the invaders are believed to have numbered at most tens of thousands (if that) at any time of their landing here.
There isn’t much evidence of any major battles (the King Arthur’s battle at Badon Hill is but a legend), which would suggests the highly civilised society that had existed here when Rome ruled cave in to the invaders, offered little resistance, gradually abandoned the features of good life (running water, sanitation, highly developed institutions and stuff). Why?
Noa @ 19:37 & Geordie Shaw @ 20:12
You should be minded of the Dutch saying ‘a man can predict everything but the future’. Let’s just wait and see.
telemachus @ 19:43
What a coincidence, telemachus, Baron, too, was in the garden this afternoon pretending to be useful. He didn’t turn over any stones though.
Baron
Non Angeli sed Angli
What can one say? I expect he had already stopped paying his TV licence and had run out of ideas:
Death threat to BBC chief and his wife: Bodyguards rush to home of Director-General after terrifying e-mail is sent to Corporation over his decision to drop Jeremy Clarkson from Top Gear
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3016302/Death-threat-BBC-chief-wife-Bodyguards-rush-home-Director-General-terrifying-e-mail-sent-Corporation-decision-drop-Jeremy-Clarkson-Gear.html
It’s a bit early for April Fool’s Day.
Alexsander;28 Mch at 20-48
What you are referring to is below;with encomium from a Labour cllr.
http://www.gloucestercitizen.co.uk/Gloucester-stalwart-Paul-Mathurin-jailed-raping/story-26231363-detail/story.html
Nigel Farage:”You won’t believe what the Conservative Party candidate in Sth Thanet has just admitted he believes.”
Tory hopeful:`immigration is not a red line`in renegotiation with EU.
http://www.kentonline.co.uk/thanet/news/thanet-conservative-candidate-says-he-34192/
27 March 1462. Ivan the Great becomes Grand Prince of Moscow after gaining freedom from The Golden Horde..of muslim asiatics.
28 March 1584.Death of Ivan the Terrible (Ivan Grozny);first Tsar of All the Russias-who captured Kazan and Astrakhan from the Tartars.
27 March 2000.Vlad Grogny elected President of Russian Federation.
“By the walls of Kazan that mighty fort…..ress
Tsar Ivan made a celebrated con…..quest.
There the Tartars took a bea…..ting,
There began their long retrea…..ting.
Russia was free once more!!”
~~~~Varlaam’s song from `Boris Godunov` by Mussorgsky.
Full English translation below;scroll down to page 36.
http://www.chandos.net/pdf/CHAN%203007.pdf
Boris Christoff sings `Varlaam’s song`(in Russian).
https://youtube.com/watch?v=cLxviCUSLmY
Radford N
29 March 945 Princess Olga of Kiev accepted the teachings handed down from St Cyril who translated scriptures into the Russian language
This removed the risk that the Kievan Rus would become a principality dedicated to Islam
And also that it might become a principality of the Hebrews, also a risk (Martin Six-smith)
Delingpole produces a seminal blast, Steynesque in its application, which rounds up the years of frustration and attempts at indignation expressed here and elsewhere on the bias of the Beeb:
http://www.breitbart.com/london/2015/03/28/why-losing-clarkson-is-the-bbcs-biggest-mistake-since-keeping-jimmy-savile/
Though I’m not a fan of Top Gear, I cannot disagree with a word of this excellent rant.
Frank
surely the home affairs select committee should re summons these people and ask them to explain why they lied to the committee.
maybe the serjent at arms could put them in the cells for a while.
Comparing the two borders on the genius, Frank, the Sir-Peado-The-Greatest affair must be more than uncomfortable for the pseudo-liberal tossers.
Radford & tele, what has caused the sudden interest in things of Russia of the old?
Radford NG @ 06:04
But, Radford, all three dates are of what calendar, Julian (the old style), or a mix old old and new style? Also, the first sitting of the Duma (when the Romanovs got in) took place in 1612 when the on-off occupation of Russian lands ended.
It’s arguable, but this may be the birth of Russia proper (unification of Russia and Ukraine), not unlike the Stuart James’s coupling of Scotland and England as Great Britain, both polities still going, the latter (Great Britain) under considerable strain.
(Baron will listen to anyone ready to tell him otherwise).
RobertC @ 13:15
The response will get even more over the top, Robert,the idea here is to suggests those backing Jeremy are vile thugs, keen on violence, totally unlike the rainbow lovvies.
RobertC
March 28th, 2015 – 23:15
I was no great fan of Top Gear, but at least Clarkson seems to be neither a homosexual nor a paedophile. No wonder the BBC has been so hard on Clarkson. Tony Hall and his mob can all get stuffed!
@AWK 29th, 15:00
“Tony Hall and his mob can all get stuffed!”
To their own collective delight! π
Those among you who already receive National Review’s ‘Jonah Goldberg’s Newsletter’, please ignore this post as, for some reason, I cannot link it so I’m cutting ‘n’ pasting the whole delightful and characteristic ramble, because … well … it’s just worth it – a marvellous denuciation of the Obama phenomenon and all who sail in it:
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Dear Reader (including our new partners in peace in Tehran),
Iβm writing this from sunny southern California. Though if I had my druthers, I wouldnβt be writing it at all. Itβs just that I took last Friday off and if I skip two Fridays in a row, Iβm afraid Jack Fowler (National Reviewβs publisher) will start cutting himself again.
The great thing about my job — save for the TV part of it — is I can pretty much do it from anywhere. Conversely, the terrible thing about my job is I can do it from anywhere. So, itβs both liberating and constricting — which sounds a bit like the tagline for an S&M bondage retreat: βSet Yourself Free in Our All Leather Dungeon!β
Anyway, like the Senate under Harry Reid, Iβve been trying to keep my workload to a bear minimum. Or is it bare minimum? I can never keep those straight. A bear minimum seems like what they try to maintain around the picnic tables at Yellowstone, while a bare minimum sounds like the new FCC standard for Superbowl halftime shows in the wake of the Janet Jackson and Miley Cyrus fiascos.
The point of all this throat-clearing is that I havenβt been following the news too closely because Iβve been on vacation. Unfortunately, the first half of my trip was a long-planned ski trip in Northern California, but given my grievous back injury I couldnβt ski. This sounds a bit like a twist on the old vaudeville joke about the guy who goes to the doctor with a banged-up elbow and asks, βWill I be able to play the violin?β The doctor says βof course.β The guy responds, βFunny, I couldnβt play the violin before.β
Speaking of old jokes, you ever hear the old Borscht Belt routine about the old Jewish man who gets hit by a car? The paramedic arrives on the scene, props his head up, and asks, βAre you comfortable?β
The elderly man replies, βI make a living.β
Thanks, youβve been a great audience. Try the veal.
Anatomy of an Obama Failure
I did catch the news that the Army is going to prosecute Bowe Bergdahl for desertion. Given what we already knew, itβs no surprise that Bergdahl was up to no good. But given the politics, the fact that the Army is prosecuting him suggests that the evidence is pretty overwhelming.
What I find interesting about the Bergdahl story is that it is the quintessential Obama fiasco. If you were compiling a checklist of all the things that drive conservatives crazy — and by conservatives I basically mean people who are (a) paying attention and (b) not enthralled in the Obama cult of personality — the Bergdahl story would achieve a near-perfect score.
The Obama M.O. remains remarkably consistent. He announces some initiative, policy, or presidential action. The public rationale for the move is always rhetorically grounded in some deep, universally shared principle, even if the real agenda is something far more ideological or partisan. The facts driving the decision are never as the White House presents them. Indeed, the more confident the White House appears to be about the facts, the more likely it is theyβre playing games with them.
Sometimes the facts are simply made up. There are millions of βshovel ready jobsβ right around the corner! βYou can keep your doctor!β The Benghazi attack was βabout a video!β βOne in five women are raped!β βThe Islamic State isnβt Islamic!β βThese exclamation points are totally necessary!β At other times, the facts are selectively deployed. βSomething something tax breaks for corporate jets mumble mumble poor Warren Buffetβs secretaryβs tax bill blah blah Spain is winning the future with solar panelsβ and, course, βcore al-Qaeda has been decimatedβ (in which βcore al-Qaedaβ is defined as βthe bits of al-Qaeda that have been decimatedβ).
The Obama response to all opposition is to either attack the motives of his critics or to dismiss the objections as mere politics or ideology. When Obama met with congressional leaders back in 2009, Eric Cantor and Paul Ryan made substantive critiques of Obamacare, and Obama responded by waving away their objections as mere βtalking pointsβ — as if any facts written on a sheet of paper suddenly become untrue if you can call them βtalking points.β
Republican 1: βIt is unsafe to smoke cigarettes around the propane tank.β
Republican 2: βMass collectivization of agriculture has not worked well in the past.β
Republican 3: βYou should not feed salmon to grizzly bears using your lap as a plate.β
Obama: βThose are just talking pointsβ¦..Ahhhhh! Get this bear off of me!β
When Senate Democrats, led by Bob Menendez (now conveniently under the Department of Justiceβs thumb), expressed concerns about Obamaβs overtures to Iran, Obama reportedly sympathized, saying he understood their plight, what with the pressure from βdonors.β The insinuation, obviously, is that Obama is doing the right thing, while those opposed were motivated by fear of nefarious unnamed βdonorsβ cracking their whips (between servings of lox and bagels, no doubt). Only Obamaβs motivations are pure, noble, and fact-driven. Only his opponents are ideologues incapable of βputting politics aside for the good of the American people,β as he likes to say.
There are other anatomical features of an Obama outrage. A few come to mind:
1. He has a tendency to frame issues in such a way that America is the villain and Americaβs enemies have a point.
2. He has an outsized faith — fueled equally by ego and the mediaβs eagerness to take his side — in his ability to persuade the public not to believe their lying eyes.
3. Since Obama sees himself as the Peopleβs Tribune and the sole champion of what is right and good, he has little to no use for Congress or legal or constitutional requirements to work with it.
4. And, of course, thereβs the incompetence factor — amplified by groupthink in the White House bunker. They may think Obama is the smartest guy in the room, but they also all think theyβre geniuses who just happen to agree with each other. This creates a near total blindness to facts, data, and opinions that donβt line up with their worldview.
Enter Bergdahl
Using the above criteria, the Bergdahl story is quintessential Obama.
Invoking high-minded principle? Check!
Really motivated by partisan and ideological agenda? Check!
Made-up facts? Check!
Critics denounced as partisan ideologues opposed to high-minded principle? Check!
Group-think-driven White Houseβs failure to anticipate the political downsides? Check!
Flagrant contempt for Congress and its laws? Check!
VΓ‘clav Havel? Czech!
The high-minded-principle part is obvious. We leave no one behind. Who can disagree with that?
But it was obvious long ago that Obama had other priorities in mind. βIt could be a huge win if Obama could bring him home,β a senior administration official told Rolling Stone in a 2012 piece on Bergdahl. βEspecially in an election year, if itβs handled properly.β
The other major priority was to use the marching band and fireworks celebration of Bergdahlβs return to hasten the shuttering of Gitmo. Dump the worst of the worst anywhere you can and the political rationale for keeping the place open evaporates. So trading five hardened Taliban commanders for one deserter was a win-win.
Then thereβs the thumbless grasp of political reality. Maybe the president didnβt think going AWOL was that big a deal. Maybe he thought it was understandable. Maybe he assumed everyone shared his take on things. Maybe he thought he could just bluster through because the American people are idiots. Who knows?
The fact remains they knew Bergdahl had been AWOL and yet still thought this would be a clear-cut βhuge win,β particularly in the context of winding down the War in Afghanistan. They had no idea this fiasco would blow up in their faces, though I like to think some of the savvier political operatives on the Obama team had at least a moment of doubt when they saw Bergdahlβs dad show up with his Johnny Taliban beard. When the elder Bergdahl started speaking Arabic and Pashto in the Rose Garden, I like to imagine that David Axelrodβs bowels stewed just a little bit. (Every political pro I know who watched that announcement responded pretty much the same way you or I would if we saw a polar bear pooping a live hamster on a bus made of graham crackers; βWhat the Hell am I looking at?β)
Caught off guard by their own incompetence and arrogance, they immediately responded by attacking the motives of the critics. This is a very human reaction. If you think youβve thought through all of the legitimate responses to your actions, itβs natural to assume the critical responses you didnβt anticipate are illegitimate.
On background they started claiming that Bergdahl was being βswiftboated.β This spin was a pas de deux of asininity since βswiftboatingβ itself is a b.s. term for telling embarrassing and inconvenient truths. Much like John Kerryβs old comrades, it was members of Bergdahlβs own unit who blew the whistle on him. Blindsided by this utterly predictable reaction, the White House doubled down by marrying arrogant invocation of principle to made-up facts, which is pretty much Susan Riceβs mΓ©tier. So they sent her out to the Sunday shows to insist that Bergdahl βserved with honor and distinctionβ — words that actually have quite a bit of meaning to people who, you know, served with honor and distinction.
On Twitter, Iowahawk had the pithiest summation of the Obama teamβs assault:
βWhat kind of scum would slander this fine brave patriotic US soldier!β
βHis platoon mates.β
βAnd you actually believe those baby killers?β
Hacky Psaki
Jen Psaki, bless her heart, is sticking with the party line. Asked by Megyn Kelly whether the trade was worth it, Psaki responded: βWe have a commitment to our men and women serving overseas, or in our military, defending our national security every day, that we will do everything we can to bring them home, and thatβs what we did in this case.β
I agree with that entirely, in principle. But the key phrase there is βeverything we can.β It implies that there is a limiting principle to what we can do. Itβs a bit like the ten-guilty-men fallacy. What if the Taliban asked for ten, 20 or 100 Gitmo detainees in exchange for Bergdahl? Would Obama have agreed to that? What if the Taliban demanded all of the detainees, the state of Ohio, and the left thumbs of the starting line-up of the Tampa Bay Buccaneers? Without a limiting principle, our answer would have to be βYes.β But once sweet reason tags into the ring, we understand that such demands are ridiculous even if Bergdahl were the greatest and most patriotic soldier who ever lived.
Free Fall
I was just about to get all various and sundry on your ass when my friend Shannen Coffin — recently catapulted by National Review and Megyn Kelly into the role of Americaβs foremost expert on State Department paperwork — forwarded me this spectacularly depressing piece by Politicoβs Michael Crowley. The whole thing is worth reading, but I have a couple quick observations.
Crowley writes:
βIf thereβs one lesson this administration has learned, from President Obamaβs 2009 Cairo speech through the Arab Spring, itβs that when it comes to this region, nothing happens in a linear way β and precious little is actually about us, which is a hard reality to accept,β said a senior State Department official.
Not everyone is so forgiving. βWeβre in a goddamn free fall here,β said James Jeffrey, who served as Obamaβs ambassador to Iraq and was a top national security aide in the George W. Bush White House.
First, free fall sounds like a perfect term for the mess weβre in.
Second, itβs hard to make out exactly what this senior State Department official is trying to say with his head so far past his sphincter. In the abstract, Iβm fine with the notion that nothing happens in the region in a linear way. Iβm also fine with the idea that not everything that happens in the Middle East is about us. But taken in the context of the last SIX years, the takeaway is that Obama simply never had any idea what he was doing, and as a result he rationalizes doing little to nothing as hard-won wisdom. Itβs not him, itβs them.
Hereβs the thing to remember: Beyond ending the Iraq War by any means necessary and closing Gitmo, Obamaβs Cairo speech was Obamaβs Middle East foreign policy. He thought his middle name, a few apologies, and not being George W. Bush, combined with the awesome awesomeness of his awesomosity, would be enough to transform the region.
Then thereβs this:
For years, members of the Obama team have grappled with the chaotic aftermath of the Arab Spring. But of late they have been repeatedly caught off-guard, raising new questions about Americaβs ability to manage the dangerous region.
What the what? Again, I think the piece on the whole is good. But did you catch the sudden change in subject here? The Obama team has been grappling and was caught off guard, and this raises new questions about Americaβs ability to manage the region? Why Americaβs? These are Team Obamaβs foul-ups. Shouldnβt they raise new questions about Team Obamaβs abilities? Maybe Iβm still high on airplane glue, but Iβm pretty sure that when the Bush team was grappling and getting caught off guard, it βraised questionsβ about Bush, not America.
This is a microscopic example of one of my longstanding beefs. Whenever things are going bad for liberalism, the blame falls on either America or conservatives, never on liberals. As I wrote in Liberal Fascism:
In the liberal telling of Americaβs story, there are only two perpetrators of official misdeeds: conservatives and βAmericaβ writ large. Progressives, or modern liberals, are never bigots or tyrants, but conservatives often are. For example, one will virtually never hear that the Palmer Raids, Prohibition, or American eugenics were thoroughly progressive phenomena. These are sins America itself must atone for. Meanwhile, real or alleged βconservativeβ misdeeds β say, McCarthyism β are always the exclusive fault of conservatives and a sign of the policies they would repeat if given power. The only culpable mistake that liberals make is failing to fight βhard enoughβ for their principles. Liberals are never responsible for historic misdeeds, because they feel no compulsion to defend the inherent goodness of America. Conservatives, meanwhile, not only take the blame for events not of their own making that they often worked the most assiduously against, but find themselves defending liberal misdeeds in order to defend America herself.
Then thereβs this:
Obama officials were surprised earlier this month, for instance, when the Iraqi government joined with Iranian-backed militias to mount a sudden offensive aimed at freeing the city of Tikrit from the Islamic State in Iraq and the Levant. Nor did they foresee the swift rise of the Iranian-backed rebels who toppled Yemenβs U.S.-friendly government and disrupted a crucial U.S. counterterrorism mission against Al Qaeda there.
Wait a second. I was with you on the whole βthe Middle East isnβt linearβ thing. But if this White House was caught off guard by Iranβs backing of Houthi (and blowfish) militias and coziness with the Shiite government in Baghdad, thatβs not proof of the regionβs non-linear inscrutability, itβs further proof that the Obama foreign-policy team drives to work in a clown car. Itβs like the s*** has been hitting the fan for so long over there, they think thatβs just the best way to paint the walls of the situation room an earthy brown.
All Is Dwell
Finally, thereβs the final paragraph, which is a quote from the same State Department official who wears his own ass like a hat:
βThe truth is, you can dwell on Yemen, or you can recognize that weβre one agreement away from a game-changing, legacy-setting nuclear accord on Iran that tackles what every one agrees is the biggest threat to the region,β the official said.
Sigh. Where to begin?
Remember all that stuff earlier about groupthink and the inability to anticipate or even recognize inconvenient data and facts? Well, hereβs this guy saying: Donβt dwell on Yemenβs disintegration or on Americaβs hasty withdrawal from it. Donβt dwell on the fact this administration touted it — and continues to tout it! — as a model of a successful counter-terror strategy. Donβt dwell on the fact that it is now the frontline of a regional sectarian war between Arab Sunnis and Iran and Iranian client Shiites. Donβt dwell on the fact that Yemen is in fact just the latest piece of concrete evidence that the whole region is going tits-up, with total bloody chaos in Libya, Syria, and much of Iraq, thanks in large part to Iranβs decades-long ambition to become a regional hegemon by any means necessary — including terrorism.
No, donβt dwell on any of that stuff, because weβre going to get a piece of paper that will probably put Iran on a path to getting a bomb rather than prevent it. But even if the terms are exactly as the White House will spin them, the agreement will still depend entirely on the good faith and trustworthiness of Iranβs rulers, whoβve been violating every international law you can think of and who chant, every week, βdeath to America.β I mean, what could go wrong?
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Sadly, the ambidextrous little fucker Rod Liddle has nailed UKIP’s chances in the general election doing best what he is apparently complaining of about the MSM in general. Crafty little fox:
http://www.spectator.co.uk/columnists/rod-liddle/9479972/how-ukip-became-the-incredible-disappearing-party/
Who can rationally disagree with his analysis?
The trouble with these polls is that they are all devised by people with an agenda: Lord Ashcroft, Peter Kellner and so on – and where their agenda meets is in globalism, federal control and so on, which is why they all hate UKIP.
Since Christmas and right up until polling day there will be and have been endless little faux narratives constructed by these ‘independent’ polls that Labour is ahead by a whisker again, the Tories are ahead by a whisker again, it’s too close to call, no – really – you have some skin in this game, so don’t vote for something other than the big two.
That is not an independent poll ‘result’. They are designed like that.
Even at the last election, Slippery Dave couldn’t win it – and that was when people believed his promises on referendums, cutting immigration and so on – so how does his vote share go up this time round?
I notice underneath Rod Liddle’s piece (a man who takes the globalist shilling) that the reader comments bear this out. The same on today’s Spectator story that Miliband has pulled four points ahead. Ed Miliband has inspired the country to pull four points ahead in just the past two weeks?
This election is about one thing and one thing only for the MSM: keep pumping out ‘too-close-to-call’ polls that make the voters think there’s some skin in the game in voting for Labour or Con. For their continued existence, let’s hope it works.
One post-election prediction: after the election, website users of the Daily Telegraph and Spectator will once again be allowed to vote things up without being signed in.
Baron 1400
The Russians are truly fascinating folk
The Islamophobes among you would do well to study them
Like many countries in the Middle Ages they had a sizeable Muslim population with whom they lived in harmony
Then, after the conquest of Kazan in 1552 the Russians systematically repressed the Muslims through policies of exclusion and discrimination as well as the destruction of Muslim culture and the mosques. The Russian army rounded up people, driving Muslims from their villages to ports on the Black Sea, where they awaited ships provided by the neighboring Ottoman Empire. Under Communist rule, Islam was oppressed and suppressed. Many mosques ( more than 83% ) were closed
Today Putin deals with the Chechens with extreme violence
To avoid wars the one thing we should do is to deny the messiahs, the KGB colonels, the other top politicians everywhere the protection they enjoy over and above that for any of the unwashed, for as the Great Lao-Tzu said: βIt is only when you see a mosquito landing on your testicles that you realise there is always a way to solve problems without using violence.β
Peter Hitchens provides the answer to how Dave – whose vote share cannot possibly exceed what it was last time – can win a majority: do a deal with the SNP.
That will involve telling a lot more lies before any such deal, but with Dave, who would notice? That Etonian thug seems to get whatever he wants, especially with James Landale sticking his tongue up Cameron’s back passage:
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/article-3016421/PETER-HITCHENS-slippery-Salmond-secretly-trying-Dave-elected.html
Wherever there’s Dave, there’s lies.
Telemachus 07:26
St Cyril (Kiril) was the originator of the Cyrillic alphabet, and was a native of Bulgaria. The Cyrillic script is now used in Russia, but was originally intended to allow the sounds of the Bulgarian language to be written down. The bible was translated into Bulgarian, not Russian. The Russians back in those days were mindless, brutish, semi-literate thugs; back to which they have now reverted.
telemachus @ 17:16
Could it be, telemachus, that the Russians treated Muslims so badly because the followers of Allah were never Russians (British, Germans …) first but Muslims? Also, the Russians did treat the Jews equally badly (and often for the same reason).
If there’s one fundamental flaw in the three Abrahamic faiths it is that the worshippers of the three creeds hate each other more than they hate the followers of other religions. Incomprehensible that.
There’s no ‘Islamophobes’ anywhere, tele, there’s just Muslims who always wait for their moment and then try to dhimmify all the non-Muslims. And they don’t like it when people stand up to them.
Russia has always had it right in Chechnya: if you want to get Muslims to understand, speak the language of Muslims – and boy can the Russians do that.
And isn’t that what’s really behind the dislike people like you have for Vladimir Putin – he won’t sign up to the Precious Little Muslim project of the United Nations, EU and Bilderberg movement and is holding out like Asterix and Obelix village, giving a damn good hiding to anyone who wants to tear his borders down and flood it with diversity?
Chris Morriss @ 17:28
Russians thugs of today? Hmmm
So tell us, Chris, how many Western throats have been cut by the Russian thugs?
Btw, the two brothers, Cyril and Methodius, were Greek by birth, not Bulgarians.
Since we’re having a little history lesson on Russia and Chechnya, it’s worth asking an ex Muslim what really happens out there:
“On September 1, 2004, terrorists stormed a school in Beslan, Russia, and perpetrated one of the most heinous terror attacks in history.
“Though many people may have heard of this attack, it is very likely that most do not know what really happened there. The reality is so dark that few dare speak of what went on.
“There are predators in wait lurking everywhere searching for unsuspecting victims. If a person has a proclivity or a secret desire, that inclination can easily come out if an opportunity arises. And that is what happened at Beslan.
“The terrorists immediately killed the men because they wanted no resistance for their plans. Then, when they saw the helpless girls in front of them, the temptation became too much. Their perverse dreams came true.
“Beslan was clearly a sexual homicide/sexual suicide. That is, the offenders wanted more than simple terrorism. Some of the terrorists at Beslan were hired guns who did not plan on dying that day. They had not thought things through and did not realize that the Russians would not let them out alive.
Then, once they were inside, and the realization dawned on them, plans changed.
“Things had deteriorated when the media reported that there were only 354 victims. Wanting to have a dramatic impact, the terrorists exploded with anger.
“There were 1200 victims, and the Russians were trying to downplay the incident. The terrorists said they would have to eliminate victims to fit with what the media had reported. Their demeanor worsened, and they got really mean.
“It was then that they began raping the girls. They wanted sex as they killed, and this is sexual homicide. A sex killer gets excited when he thinks about forcing himself inside an unwilling victim, but the rape itself does not produce the ultimate excitement. It is the rape followed by the killing that is arousing. This is what happened at Beslan.
“One by one, females were targeted. The sex killers looked for the perfect victims, and after zeroing in, they grabbed and disrobed the little girls in the middle of the gym. There were muffled cries as the girls were humiliated in front of everyone.
“They were stripped, raped, and sodomized by several men. Not content to simply rape, the terrorists used their guns and other objects to penetrate the screaming victims while the other hostages were forced to watch. And the terrorists laughed.
“They laughed as they violated the children and made them bleed. What few people know is that some of the girls died as a result of being raped with objects. The internal damage was so severe that without immediate medical attention, the girls bled to death. Those who managed to survive required extensive reconstructive surgery and painful recoveries.
“But raping the girls was not enough for the deviants who had entered the school. The terrorists beat the other children. In fact, beatings took place regularly, and as they pummeled the little ones, the terrorists smiled and laughed. It was said that they would strike a child and then watch the child cringe.
“When the youngsters recoiled, their captors laughed. This says the offenders enjoyed inflicting the suffering. They wanted their victims to suffer. Such behavior is sadistic. Bringing others pain brings the sadist pleasure.”
Written by an ex-Muslim.
http://www.islam-watch.org/Others/Sexual-Terror-Untold-Stories-of-Beslan-Jihad.htm
These people like telemachus and Chris Morriss, they know what goes on. It’s the same as what goes on in Bradford, Oxford, Rotherham. It’s happening across Europe now.
The attempt to smear Russia for standing up to people like that and destroying people’s lives who want to stand up to that, suggest that Chris and tele rather get off on it.
Are you, Chris and tele, like the White Widow? Flicking off her bits between her legs because she enjoys the idea of her husband killing another man’s children?
Why do you object to Russia standing up to that?
Because with facts this plain for all to see in Rotherham and everywhere else, the last thing you’re clearly interested in is the truth.
So what are you really hiding?
Frank P @ 16:38
The MSM, which is mostly staffed with people bred in the BBC run or controlled incubators of what laughingly passes for journalism these days, has deployed the three key tools of killing the unwanted – they bribe, intimidate or ignore. Ukip as a party falls mostly under the ignore heading, but Baron reckons the unwashed have seen through it, will stay the course, shock everyone in May.
Geordie Shaw @ 17:57
Excellent and hard hitting post, Geordie Shaw, sadly, evidence hardly matters for the blind and deaf.
BTW, it took just a couple of days to get public the content of the cockpit voice recorder from the German plane deliberately brought down in the South of France, down to the recording of the co-pilot breathing. Nothing though from the same box of the jumbo downed over Ukraine almost a year ago. What’s keeping the ‘truth seeking’ Dutch, Ukrainians, Americans?
Frank P @ 15:48
The last para of the long piece almost says it as it is: The messiah is determined to finish off israel before his presidency ends, and it seems nobody can stop him. Iran will get her bomb, Israel will respond, the whole ME region will experience a Full Monty blow out, taking many of us with it.
Apparently the live show of the erstwhile ‘Top Gear’ in Oz will have be renamed for reasons of copyright. May I suggest “Overdrive” ? Seems to fill the bill in so many ways.
Baron at 17:49
No, they were born in what is now Macedonia, which then was part of the first Bulgarian Empire. I fear that in your case, a little learning is a dangerous thing.
Now perhaps you can tell me why faux right-wingers such as yourself, so idolise Putin?
When push comes to shove, as it will, there are three countries who will be opposing “the west” in its battle with Islam, They are Russia, Saudi Arabia and Israel.
It is coyly reported that Andreas Lubitz was having psychological problems about keeping his eyesight; seems more likely that his psychological problems were concerned with keeping his arse tight. Was he seeing an opthalmologist or a proctologist?
Frank P
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Lubitz was suffering from Severe Subjective Overload Syndrome
telemachus at 07-26
“29 March 945.Princess Olga of Kiev accepted the teachings handed down from St. Cyril who translated scriptures into the Russian language.”
And all the Court threw their hats in the air and declared:-
“Nice one Cyril,
Nice one chum.
Nice one Cyril,
Nice one son!”
Chris Morris @ 1927
Not Saudi. They are the cradle of Islam. and the most fundamentalist.
telemachus:27 March at 19-43;the Belgian atrocities.
So what else is news?Our fathers and grandfathers knew this a hundred years ago.It is what enthused them to join the war.
Louvain’s “renowned Library was torched with petrol in a deliberate in a deliberate blaze that consumed a quarter of a million books……..the cultural atrocity of burning the Library….an attack on the cultural heritage of the whole of Europe”
~~~Daily telegraph;25 August 2014.
This provoked Kipling to write:-
For all we have and are,
For all our children`s fate,
Stand up and take the war.
The Hun is at the gate.
Above:Daily Telegraph;25 August 2014.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/europe/belgium/11053962/The-city-that-turned-Germans-into-Huns-marks-100-years-since-it-was-set-ablaze.html
It was commonly known well before the war that the German Army had committed what is now called genocide against the native people of South West Africa (Nanibia).
Radford N
It was all about the psyche of Lubitz and his Nationality
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Leopards, spots and all that
Alexandr at 20-40.
Chris Morris strangely writes `there are three countries who will be opposing “the west”in its battle with Islam.They are Russia,Saudi Arabia and Israel`.
Baron:14-00;14-22.
Why interest in Russia?
See mine 23 March
twitter from History Today on Ivan the Great: http://bit.ly/H9no6n
George Soros(?)on radio this morning in support of Kiev;followed by a panel of pro-Kievians.
Dates are probably O.S/New Style/O.S.
Ivan(The Terrible) crowned Tsar of all the Russia:16 January 1547.
http://www.britannica.com/EBchecked/topic/298154/Ivan-IV
Some of you wise Wallsters may know this already, but I’m not sure that it is common knowledge that filling your car with (comparatively) cheap unleaded petrol at your local Supermarket is probably a false economy.
I recently noticed that my mpg had decreased noticeably: when the car reached its major service date last week I queried it with the service bods, who asked whether I bought my juice from the cut-price Supermarket outlets, implying that the problem might be connected with that. Since then I have used a higher grade of fuel at a Shell garage and discovered that indeed my mpg improved by a factor of about 30%. A quick equation on the back of an envelope indicates that Tesco/Asda/Sainsbury are indeed selling inferior piss as petrol and ripping gullible punters (like me) off something rotten. Just sayin’!
29 March 2015;Palm Sunday:rain,overcast,but mild.
29 March 1461:Palm Sunday:rain,sleet,wind,freezing;the bloodiest day in English history;28,000 slaughtered at the Battle of Towton;Edward IV slaughters the Lancastrian forces of Henry VI.
http://www.historytoday.com/george-goodwin/towton-1461-bitter-field
At 20:34 a poster has told us that Lubitz was suffering from Severe Subjective Overload Syndrome.
Brings to mind the old saying – that it takes one to know one – eh?.
Frank P 22.31
I another life I was heavily involved in motorcyle racing and still have many friends who are.
Fuel testing was one of my involvements to make sure the fuel being used was legal pump fuel, which the rules required in most events.
We knew the teams were concocting their own fuel from highly dubious liquids. And it was clamped down on as against the rules, dangerous, and cheating.
So there was great interest to find out which legal pump fuel was the best for power and quality.
All of our testing came up with the most expensive BP as consistently the best.
One of the reasons teams were brewing their own fuel was for consistency ( they were able to know exactly the recipe)
Avgas was another fuel which was popular as it was aircraft fuel and made to tighter regulations which made it more consistent.
And that gets to the problem with supermarket fuel, they leave out some additives to cut cost but the real problem is the upper and lower quality levels that the rules allow.
You could be buying good quality but it could be so poor it’s only just legal to be sold.
And the bottom end is not what you want in any performance car.
In Germany because of autobahns having no speed limits engines work hard, and you don’t want shit fuel in those situations.
You can buy much higher quality fuel there than we can.
Our crap quality fuel regulations are masked by our low speed limits.
Anyone using crap fuel in modern highly complex diesel cars is asking for trouble.
I should have made the simple point that with poor quality fuel you have to use more throttle to get the same performance.
More throttle = less mpg.
I am sitting in a traffic jam on your Motorway 5 on the way to my kith and kin in Clovelly.
Yesterday I read the papers and formed a very good view on who should win in your General Election.
Edward Miliband is a dangerous communist and must be stopped.
The Green Party seen to stand for nothing apart from wind farms and the closure of McDonalds and are therefore a joke.
The Cleggites appear to be a busted flush.
Cameron seems to have lost his drive. He is too much like our Communist Muslim President.
Farage is the only man of excitement and seems to little old John that what you Limeys need is a Conservative victory with a decent fist of Farage MP’s to stiffen Cameron’s backbone.
What is my old mucker Andy Car Park voting?
@Frank P 29th, – 22:31
“Some of you wise Wallsters may know this already, but Iβm not sure that it is common knowledge that filling your car with (comparatively) cheap unleaded petrol at your local Supermarket is probably a false economy.”
I’m not about to get into MPG issues, but the cheap stuff can also gum up your engine. Unlike in my childhood, exhaust gases no longer simply pass down a pipe, through a sinencer and out into the rest of the world. Oh, no. Now their oxygen content is monitored, a small amount of them is recycled and of course they then have to pass through the notorious ‘Cat’. And if any of these, but more importantly the first two, get gummed up by unburnt combustion products the whole system goes out of kilter.